I didn't mean we have to assume Oberon is final PS5 hardware. I meant we need an explanation for what this thing is doing alongside Arden if it's not PS5.
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PS5 and Xbox Series speculation launch thread |OT9| - For flops sake!
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I didn't mean we have to assume Oberon is final PS5 hardware. I meant we need an explanation for what this thing is doing alongside Arden if it's not PS5.
I think both consoles will be awesome but I have noticed a lot of times when someone mentions the One X did a better job tech and design wise (which is true in my opinion) people always blame the year gap. The team at MS deserved a lot of credit. Their design team has killed it lately.
It's not like anyone here at Era would know what's allowed or not internally at AMD.
User warned: Console war rhetoric
Disaster for Sony hardcore fanboys. Normal people will be very happy.
What about XSX with only 560GB/s (theoretical) for 12 tf ? It's not going to be bandwidth starved ? And also you are wrong about PS5 as Oberon B0 has about 550GB/s theoretical (530GB/s achieved) for 9.2 tf. Not 500GB/s theoretical.
XSX with 560GB/s theoretical is probably going to have max 540GB/s real bandwidth. If you take what is in the github as base for your analysis, like you did, then please take also the right numbers: the last model of Oberon.
So far Pitchford and Blow are mouthing off against XBOX. Wonder if that's a sign of worry or a sign they're heading in the right direction 🤣
The people vote who they vote for, as in real life sometimes the wrong choice comes out on top, Good Job on the OP
MS did great but you can't look at things in a bubble like what some people doing .
The $100 and year late of course had a effect on design and specs.
it's pre-rendered, running at 24 fps and basically 1600p if you ignore the black bars on top and bottom. or 6 million pixels instead of 8 million for native 4k.
if sony is 30% weaker, it will have to down to 4.1 million pixels or something close to 4kcb. but the problem is for gameplay, they will need to run it at 20% more frames per second. you will end up with 3.2 million pixels or something around 1200p with effects missing because pre-rendered inengine trailers never look as good as gameplay.
numbers matter when it comes to graphics. there is a reason switch cant run hellblade 2. they might get it to run at 100p and 2 fps but would anyone play it?
I don't think a year gap is the reason the One X was smaller and quieter than the launch Xbox One
He means that you'd have 500 for only the GPU, since the CPU needs some also.
i thought that was in the arden folder and assumed to be arden bandwidth results.
Randy :should:. Though who the fuck knows. Someone badger him on Twitter past 8pm. He seems the type to get aggro drunk and spill some shit.
You don't think 3rd party dev as big as gearbox does not have dev kits?
I imagine they must be briefed, but I don't believe a word out of Randy Pitchford's mouth.
(Sharing with CPU) which is what I put in my post as well: effective GPU bandwidth is lower on an APU in realworld since the CPU needs memory too.
XseriesX will have that 'problem' as well.
I don't think Arden was actually there to be tested. I think they were preparing spreadsheets and scripts in anticipation of Arden. That was my take after looking through it for some time.
Which would be hilarious because it would mean that the Reddit post from January was right about all 3 consoles.
I mean do you actually think ps5 is going to be 9.2? Just because that is the tflop doesn't mean you can achieve it in practice. Like the others said 2 ghz clock doesn't bode well, 1.8 makes more sense which will bring down the tflop number
You don't need to believe me - current devkit is 10.24 TF.
Which would be all 40 CU running at 2 GHz. Certainly not out of the realm of possibility that this would be representative for final Si, either.
i cant believe they were storing this stuff in spreadsheets. surely that kind of stuff should go in a database.
if Flute had a 1.8 ghz gpu with 530 gbps of ram bandwidth. shouldnt a 2.0 ghz oberon have more? or at least need more?
That is also what i assume he got the news about lockhart and that's what put him in a tizzy before
5700xt uses same exact chips as nvidia cards. From the looks of it, AMD went cheap on memory controllers.
Randy is such a wildcard that it's better to approach his tweet cautiously. Who knows what he's mad at Phil about.
My car is smaller an quieter than the launch xbox one.
I like this thinking...
My guess is his company only recently got dev kits or still waiting. It's how I interpreted the tweet.
Buildzoid on NAVI 21
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The launch Xbox One was very quite. That was a big thing for MS because they didn't want a noisy box to screw up their TV plans.
So very many excel sheets, lol. There are also commit logs, a few text files, the interns name, resume and picture, what he did certain days working, who his supervisors were, information on Renoir, MI100, and more sensitive stuff. The full repository shouldn't be reposted.
In terms of Flute yeah it is a bit of a mystery. Perhaps it was also tested with Ariel, the older iGPU.
Well it sounds like they aren't happy with Lockhart, but the fact that Blow specifically said the PS5 looks 'pretty good' should be a good sign.
I didn't think they would at this stage no, unless they were making an Xbox game.
40cu 2ghz devkit. Old info. Retail will be 36cu 2ghz like leak said.
These types of general comments without real context aren't particularly useful, but it is kinda funny because "pretty good" hardly sounds like a ringing endorsement either :)
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