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PS5 allows off-the-shelf NVMe drive upgrades, will need to be certified
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You basically need a very fast PCIE 4.0 card. Those just barely launched a little while ago.
By year end there will be better options. (hopefully)
Whoops I meant to say read. I don't know why I typed write. I'll correct that. Thank you.
So I can buy expendable storage for my Series X at launch, but Sony has less space available at launch and doesn't specify when drives of 5.5GB will be available or how much they will cost?
Also people need to remember one thing, better drives = $$$, just look at prices on amazon or any other siteright now and the difference is quite big between a cheap brand and a Samsung for example.
Ha it basically is custom isn't it? Drives don't exist yet for it but they prepared for it to be upgradable when that day comes. Sounds like the best solution possible
Yep, these SSDs will become common as time goes on. This is literally the ideal way to do this. I am so surprised, and pleased.
probably gonna need top of the line ssd for this so I don't see this being cheaper than what ms is doing...
Okay okay, I will assume that's means m.2 2280
This is so good, especially when Gen4 gets even faster. Now for PC how can we replicate their I/O and other tricks/features to make full use of all that speed? That sounded so good but I doubt PC will have something like that any time soon. AMD this is your chance to .. well continue curb stomping Intel. Get us this stuff in motherboards, work with your MB partners. I want this in my next PC upgrade.
I am glad every manufacturer has gone to "just jam your own drive in there" designs. No ridiculous custom storage that costs 4X more because its locked down / a special form factor (I am looking at you PS Vita)
So they say not all nvme drives will fit in the PS5 because of size and that all drives will have to be certified and that they don't expect them in the near future to be available. Also, this from Eurogamer:
Also remember that extreme bandwidth PCIe 4.0 NVMe drives are likely to be very expensive - in the short term, at least.
So unless you are expecting to need more space in 2022 or later, you are screwed early on and might have to pay high prices anyway...
Since the drives won't be as fast as the internal PS5, I kinda see a problem for games.
With XSX solution devs know at least what speed the internal or external storage will have...
Don't be daft. No one is going to fill up 1TB on launch day. Everyone that follows PC tech knows these drives aren't that far off.
I'm sure for size they are covering the worst case scenario. Not all NVMe's need a cooler, and the cooler that some come with can be removed (replaced). Though I guess not everyone will be ok with doing that.
For the price, because they are used in PS5 that price is going to drop (looking forward to this on PC, since only AMD new CPUs make good use of GEN 4 NVMe (maybe Intel has a new CPU that now use it, I haven't kept up with that part).
The prices make sense to me even now for GEN 4, but on PC not right now since games don't make use of it. But if you are a video editor, do scientific research, and such it will be very worth it. When PC games start doing the things PS5 will be doing I'll be ready to invest in those bad boys.
what exactly does off the shelf mean and how is it different from xbox? xbox will only allow their own branded drives?
Except it's currently not and brand new m2 drives over a TB will cost you past $200
Cerny did say you could run your Ps4 library off a normal external HDD if you want, but you could also transfer it to your Ps5 hard drive as well.
So it does support extra storage at launch, but seems to be for BC.
One anywhere near as fast at 2TB is 399.99 USD on sale on newegg right now. Neither storage solution is perfect. Memory cards on one hand, incredibly expensive on the other.
The upcoming 970 Pro (or whatever number it is) from Samsung is apparently going to have insanely high speeds to it. Blowing everything else away.
ah, the thing Era members told me was impossible to accomplish in the Xbox Series X.
cool, cool
So I can stick a Sabrent Rocket PCIe 4.0 2TB in a PS5 just like I have a pair of in my PC.
cool, cool
So I can stick a Sabrent Rocket PCIe 4.0 2TB in a PS5 just like I have a pair of in my PC.
They will have to be as fast he says. Actually faster, to allow for some overhead needed because their controller has some extra features. So that shouldn't be an issue.
Yeah, that's the only thing that sucks. But at least hackers will probably eventually get it to boot from the external drive, meaning plenty of spare parts for the foreseeable future.
Ahhhhh I see. The same approach with Series X (previous generation can still be run off an external USB drive). It'll be interesting to see how fast these PS5 certified drives launch and how much they'll cost.
It sound like you can put a Gen 4 SSD in that below par and the console will try to brute force it. There may be performance issues like running a slow hdd in games designed for faster SSDs. Not as sever as the below example though. It'll still be a Gen 4 ssd after all, not a HDD vs SSD situation.
Not to mention. This isn't even the new PCI standard. So it will not even be that cheap. Expect well past 400 for a 2TB SSD at the same speeds and standards as the ps5.
Ah okay. :) Won't be cheap then. :( At least in the beginning but that won't be a problem then. :)
Yeah, that's how it is. The proprietary drives for the XSX are hardly going to come cheap either though. In the long run, I feel fairly confident that Sony's strategy will give us cheaper drives.
Exactly why I think they went this route. They learned their lesson.
It seems like a toss-up for the most part, because new SSD tech typically enters the market priced fairly high. The situation should improve over time, though, and as someone else mentioned, the drive can then be re-used in other hardware, which is a plus. I'm not particularly torn up about the XSX situation, either, though.
Well if the drives don't exist yet commercially in the form factor they are using, this definitely explains the BoM at $450. I would not be in the camp of expecting this to be a cheap machine ($399).
Yeah, I think so too. MS will probably have one more company beside Seagate but Sony has the whole PC market to profit from.
