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Protests in Philadelphia over police shooting Walter Wallace Jr.

Mekanos

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This is a developing story so I will try to only post reliable sources.

(potential trigger warning for disturbing content under spoiler, it's the shooting in question)



One of the protest/riot scenes:



www.nbcphiladelphia.com

Violence Tears Through West Philly After Police Shoot, Kill Man; 30 Officers Hurt

Angry crowds took to the streets in West Philadelphia overnight after police shot and killed a man armed with a knife Monday, with some in the crowds throwing rocks and bricks at police and some looting or vandalizing businesses.
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Officials are responding to reports of rioting, vandalism and looting in West Philadelphia following protests in response to a deadly police shooting in the city's Cobbs Creek neighborhood.

Police said crowds set fire to cars and dumpsters and looted multiple stores late Monday night along 52nd and Chestnut streets. Firefighters also responded to a fire on 52nd and Sansom streets.

Earlier in the night, protesters gathered outside the 18th District police headquarters on 55th and Pine streets as well as the University of Penn Police headquarters on 40th and Chestnut streets.

During the protest outside the 18th District, at least four officers were hospitalized after they were struck by bricks, investigators said. There were also reports of vandalism, including spray-paint and smashed windows, at the Penn police station.
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Seems like it's getting pretty crazy out there. Please try to only post verifiable information.
 
diakyu

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We live in a country where if you're wearing a badge you can go out and kill people in front of their family and friends. Fuck this
 
Blackleg-sanji1

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was on the block when this happened. Right in front of his mother(who was begging them not to shoot as she tries to calm down her son). Two trained officers and they had to fire 10 times its nasty
 
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If you're a cop and you can't handle a man with a knife without literally murdering him – Don't be a cop.

Fucking Christ
 
HarryDemeanor

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"Oh shit he's got a knife! Let's blast him!"

Fuck these pigs. Not even one attempt to taser this man. Just straight up fucking murder.
 
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Jesus Christ man.

I feel the panic in those poor people's voices and the terror and sorrow when they open fire.
 
Captjohnboyd

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Ugh. Watching that woman's reaction is heart breaking. I hope people continue to hit the streets every time this happens until this country's systemic issues are *fixed*
 
Milennia

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Tasers are just a forgotten fucking measure now huh, gotta kill everyone instead
 
DigitalOp

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Taking this small bit of time to say your hero Biden want to give Police more money

Don't expect people to be happy idiots under a Biden Administration
 
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BigEvilTurtle said:
Not everyone, just those with the "scary" skin color.

Do cops even fucking need guns? How often are they helping people or the community generally with their guns?
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I saw a statistic for 3 different cities that about 5% of calls for police were violent crimes in which they'd need a weapon. It was on one of Cody Johnston's videos.
 

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SbnaS said:
I saw a statistic for 3 different cities that about 5% of calls for police were violent crimes in which they'd need a weapon. It was on one of Cody Johnston's videos.
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Weapon as in a gun? Because tasers, mace and night sticks are considered weapons too. I guess my question is more: how frequently is instances of police lethal force actually justified?
 
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BigEvilTurtle said:
Weapon as in a gun? Because tasers, mace and night sticks are considered weapons too. I guess my question is more: how frequently is instances of police lethal force actually justified?
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That's a tough question for me at least. I do not believe the state should be able to sanction any killing.
I'd like to know too if there are any stats out there for justified police force and how they determine if it's justified. I'd guess that the amount of these mother fuckers that get off without any punishments would mean that most of them are "justified".
 

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SbnaS said:
That's a tough question for me at least. I do not believe the state should be able to sanction any killing.
I'd like to know too if there are any stats out there for justified police force and how they determine if it's justified. I'd guess that the amount of these mother fuckers that get off without any punishments would mean that most of them are "justified".
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We've investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing.
 

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Deleted this as it was unnecessary comment on number of shots and how shit the police are, and have become a military force.

But as someone with a brother with severe bipolar, I'm glad I don't live in the US. I can't imagine the horror of this, or the constant menace of having a police force so inured to this kind of violence
 
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Wrapped in Black said:
Just now learning that the victim suffered from mental illness (if this tweet is correct). I'm fighting back tears. Can't we just get through this week.
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In my country, in most cases if there is a person having an acute mental illness relapse or psychosis you call an ambulance and they take the person to hospital for medical care at no charge until they are well or at least until they are no danger to anyone.

The US government needs to fix this situation.

This is one basic thing without going into the systemic institutionalised racism that is also present here.
 
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Fucking tragic and why does this feel coordinated? A week out from election, happens in a swing state, in the city that heavily favors the dem, shoot a black man, cause civil unrest, hope it suppresses the vote?
 

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Here is my 2 cents.

1. If you (supposedly) have a weapon. DROP IT. I don't know why you would continue to walk towards Police who at this point we all know are woefully undertrained. I've seen some stuff that the person might have been mentally ill?

2. I don't understand nor ever will... why is the Police FIRST instinct to use lethal force? They have tasers/stun guns etc. why in the fuck is their first instinct to unload 10 ROUNDS into the person? I'm seriously asking. In this situation are they trained for that shit? It's just bizarre to me. What's the point of having non-lethal means to dispatch someone if you don't use them
 
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Donch912 said:
Here is my 2 cents.
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There are always going to be scenarios where a person isn't thinking about what they're doing like you have the luxury of when you're watching a video of someone and being like "why didn't they just X". Even without any kind of mental illness, humans can act very differently under stress.
 
dr.rocktopus

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What a fucking tragedy. Fuck these cops. So many options and they chose the absolute worst one.

LISTEN TO THE FUCKING MOTHER WHEN SHE'S TALKING ABOUT HER SON
 
Conkersbadfurday

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For what it's worth, I didn't see a knife. Went through it a few times in slow motion, too.

edit: nvm looks like he did have one.
 
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CrankyJay said:
Tasers won't necessarily work here, and cops aren't marksmen where they shoot people in the legs.
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Sure, American cops aren't marksmen; they can barely shoot a can on a post ten feet away without unloading multiple clips apparently. Amateur hour with consistently deadly results.
 
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Macam said:
Sure, American cops aren't marksmen; they can barely shoot a can on a post ten feet away without unloading multiple clips apparently. Amateur hour with consistently deadly results.
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So imagine what defunding the police will do. Even less training.
 
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CrankyJay said:
So imagine what defunding the police will do. Even less training.
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Right, so you don't understand what 'defund the police' means, beyond making a surface level look at the words and jumping straight to the wrong conclusions.

Either way, you can't get less training than zero, which is the amount of worthwhile training they currently get.
 
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