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Prosecutors drop sexual assault case against Kevin Spacey
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Where is that creepy ass video he posted awhile back in full on Frank Underwood character?
Dude must have known he wasn't getting nailed.
Dude must have known he wasn't getting nailed.
Yea, the dad of the accused couldn't locate the smartphone that allegedly contained incriminating evidence. Claims the cops lost it.
So either:
1. He truly misplaced it
2. Spacey paid em off
3. It never existed in the first place (as in it didn't contain anything relevant)
I mean, it was always a somewhat shaky case to begin with.
When the accuser started backing off it was bound to happen.
When the accuser started backing off it was bound to happen.
That article seems old? CNN is saying a big part of dropping was due to the victim pleading the fifth when asked about deleting messages on the phone:
A judge had ordered the phone be given to the defense for forensic examination, but the lawyer, Mitchell Garabedian, wrote in a court document that the accuser does not recall having seen the phone since around December 2017, when it was turned over to the police. According to Mr. Garabedian, the police said the accuser's father later retrieved the phone, but the father has "no memory" of having received it.
The accuser and his family "have searched all the places where such a phone may have been stored," Mr. Garabedian wrote. "They have not found the phone."
Very odd.
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Wow thanks for pointing this out! For some reason the NY Times app went to this older article and I copied without paying attention lol. I'll fix it.
I know some people who work in TV, and I know of TWO seperate camera operators who got stalked around an event when they were trying to do their jobs, and they both got their backsides squeezed. I have no doubt that Everything you suspect about the guy is true.
My hot take is that the dude had some self incriminating shit on that phone and realized it when he was asked to turn it over.
He got his buddies that are as disgusting that will protect him, for example Bryan Singer said he would happily cast him
Not surprised since I read about last week's clusterfuck. Fucking sucks that he got away with it, but the plaintiff and his mom fucked up by "losing" the phone and deleting shit.
Hopefully someone who has their shit together can put a case together and get him in jail for another incident. You know there's plenty more of them.
Hopefully someone who has their shit together can put a case together and get him in jail for another incident. You know there's plenty more of them.
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This is great news, hopefully his reputation can heal now.
Nah, not that his career was on fire before this but a good portion of the audience will return. Some because they're fans, they hate the #MeToo "witch hunt" or they just don't pay attention/care. I'm sure Spacey will have a solid career in Europe/vod stuff.
evidence that the accuser "lost" or "doesn't want to turn over"
what else is overwhelming?
I mean, I know the consensus on this here (he is not exonerated, he's still a piece of shit) but every time a case is dropped against someone I can't imagine money is the sole reason.
He is very likely guilty of something but this particular case always seemed odd.
He is very likely guilty of something but this particular case always seemed odd.
Huh, I feel like SPECIFICALLY with rich people money is the sole reason. They can make shit go away relatively quietly and quickly.
(Oops, I originally misread your post. I actually agree with you. Either way, the following still seems worth reiterating:)
His own lawyer tried framing that encounter as "consensual flirting," and we know the accuser sent text messages afterwards describing something at least resembling sexual assault. The problem here is that a key piece of evidence (the phone those text messages were sent on) apparently went missing, Spacey's defense zoomed in on the possibility that evidence exonerating Spacey could have been on the phone and/or deleted, and the accuser undermined his own case by pleading the 5th on questions of whether he had deleted any potential evidence prior to turning in the phone to the police.
To stem some confusion, here's how the LA Times summed all that up earlier this month:
and a relevant segment from the more recent NYT piece:
Also, a couple things worth mentioning:
1). Cases are dropped for all sorts of reasons (just read the quotes above for an example of that). It's not evidence that an accusation has been brought into particular doubt.
2). This is one accusation out of a rather sizable number of accusations. Remember, this does not relate to the original Anthony Rapp accusation. Anyone thinking this case being dropped somehow makes Spacey look better has to wrestle with a lot of contradictory evidence (...and should also expand their understanding of the justice system).
Yea I read a story a few months ago that there were a bunch of messages deleted, which was why Spacey's team wanted to see the phone to use as evidence. Or atleast thats what Spacey's team was trying to prove. That was the last thing I heard about the case though.
Feels like it, sad for justice, but if the victim got a large sum? 🤷‍♂️
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Dito. Either there was proof against himself or he had some unrelated illegal shit on the phone (use your imagination).
I'm glad this is over. I love his movie- and tv appearances. And from what I read, the accusation was 'only' some light touching of a young man. It'd be difference if he was accused of raping a prepubescent child or something in that level. As is, I hope he can return to the movie business. As his creepy video proved, he's still a chilling actor. And he'll probably never again risk doing any shit.
If so I don't think you should be looking to downplay the inappropriate touching of a child regardless of whether you like the movie appearances of the accused, or whether you think they're guilty.
We got a couple live ones