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Projectile or Hitscan?
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I typically prefer projectile weapons if given the choice. Not always, but usually.
I don't have the speed/dexterity to feel as competitive as I'd like with hitscan, but projectile weapons at least make me feel like I can add some additional strategy and "4D chess moves" to my encounters, trying to stay one step ahead of my enemy. I feel more competitive adding a bit more brains to my 1-on-1s.
I don't have the speed/dexterity to feel as competitive as I'd like with hitscan, but projectile weapons at least make me feel like I can add some additional strategy and "4D chess moves" to my encounters, trying to stay one step ahead of my enemy. I feel more competitive adding a bit more brains to my 1-on-1s.
Projectile requires skill, one of the things i love about BF i have to adjust my shot for distance and bullet drop, hitscan is old and outdated..
I remember getting a headshot with a sniper in BF3 on Operation Firestorm from 211meters away..fun times..
If you game has hitscan I will never play it..BF3 spoiled me, too bad BFV is trash..
I remember getting a headshot with a sniper in BF3 on Operation Firestorm from 211meters away..fun times..
If you game has hitscan I will never play it..BF3 spoiled me, too bad BFV is trash..
For arena shooters, hitscan. For shooters with large, expansive maps and a focus on slower gameplay, projectile.
Nothing more satisfying then adjusting your aim to hit someone across the map with a sniper rifle in BF games.
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Also this hitting dudes while flying with a disc launcher was also super satisfying.
I want to say both because they're both important in arena shooters, but I guess I'll go with projectile since you could have "hitscan" if you make the projectiles go fast enough I suppose. Projectile also is a big reason I prefer to play Battlefield over something like Call of Duty since it adds an extra element of gunplay skill
I'll go with projectile.
I like that there's a lot to consider with projectile, how far you are, what direction they're moving in, etc. This is assuming it's a FPS/TPS focused around fighting enemies.
For a lightgun game I'd go with hitscan granted I don't think I've played a lightgun game with projectiles.
I like that there's a lot to consider with projectile, how far you are, what direction they're moving in, etc. This is assuming it's a FPS/TPS focused around fighting enemies.
For a lightgun game I'd go with hitscan granted I don't think I've played a lightgun game with projectiles.
Projectile.
There's an amount of grace and precision that goes into hitting your mark with a projectile weapon that just isn't there in hitscan-centric games. To the point where hitscan just isn't fun, interesting or engaging when it comes to shooters; they fundamentally rely on other things (usually things like positioning) to make anything interesting.
And yes, it's because of Tribes. Tribes 2, specifically.
There's an amount of grace and precision that goes into hitting your mark with a projectile weapon that just isn't there in hitscan-centric games. To the point where hitscan just isn't fun, interesting or engaging when it comes to shooters; they fundamentally rely on other things (usually things like positioning) to make anything interesting.
And yes, it's because of Tribes. Tribes 2, specifically.
Picked projectile but my preferred answer is a combination of both. Doom's gameplay loop of having to prioritize between enemies with either one or the other is another thing that adds to the complexity of the enemy encounter design.
That's for PVE, PVP is a whole other thing and it depends solely on what type of game it is.
That's for PVE, PVP is a whole other thing and it depends solely on what type of game it is.
It really depends on the game. Gears wouldn't really work well with projectile (Torque Bow in Gears 1-Judgment was projectile, but it moved so fast it never felt like it needed to be in the first place) for its rifles and snipers, while a game like PUBG is as hard to play and as satisfying as it is because it's projectile based. Halo I think has always had projectile, but the bullets move so fast that it usually isn't even noticed.
So quake, unreal or cs, the most notorious skill based shooters, became this big despite no skill being required?
There is no answer here, it's a design choice.
Hitscan can and should fuck off in any and all competitive multiplayer games. Old shooters and retro style fps can get away with hitscan but new stuff should go projectile. Projectile feels so much better and yes this is because of Tribes. And BF3.
I don't fully know what it means, but if "projectile" means seeing bullets fly with a trace, I hate that.
Projectile.
Hitscan usually leads to unfair situations. Looking at you CoD on the hardest difficulties.
Hitscan usually leads to unfair situations. Looking at you CoD on the hardest difficulties.
Both is better than only one. Hitscan x projectile dynamics is another reason why classic Doom gameplay is so fun.
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Think of projectile as the damage actually leaving your weapon and having to travel to whatever you were aiming at vs. hitscan as damage occuring on whatever you were aiming at the moment you press fire. An example might be a grenade launcher vs. a sniper rifle or something similar.
Hitscan refers to casting a ray (as in, the mathematical concept of a ray) to determine if a shot is a hit or not. This is how this is calculated in a lot of shooters - even ones that have a fake tracer shot to let players know what direction a shot is coming from (Halo does this for human weapons, Gears of War does this for a lot of things, etc.). This means that the hit calculation is performed the same time the shot is "fired," so it's instant.
Projectile refers to a shot being an individual game object that has a velocity and therefore travel time. Determining if a projectile is a hit is a matter of determining a collision between this object and something else. Projectiles may or may not have some sort of physics implementation (such as the projectile dropping in altitude over distance - so the shooter would have to accommodate for this over a long distance). A much slower variant of this is how thrown grenades are handled in almost every shooter, where it's a physical object that collides with things. Projectile weapons are typically like this but the projectile is much faster.
Fundamentally, a projectile weapon will have travel time on its shots, whereas a hitscan weapon by definition does not.
Really depends on the game and type of weapon, my mind always comes back to TF2 that had both depending on what type of weapon you were using and it worked.
I will also agree with the sentiment that Tribes, probably more than any other game for me, made projectile super satisfying and maybe edges slightly ahead because of it.
I will also agree with the sentiment that Tribes, probably more than any other game for me, made projectile super satisfying and maybe edges slightly ahead because of it.
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Was thinking more about character preference since lots of games have both. TF2, overwatch, etc.
Hitscan feels better on the whole, I would say but it can create problems for the game. Mechanically aiming your cross hair over a target isn't all that difficult, so if you have a game with fairly simplistic movement and hitscans you can create a game with a very low skill ceiling.
