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How About No

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Oct 25, 2017
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The Great Dairy State
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This is terrible and you should be ashamed for making me laugh like I did
 

Einchy

Member
Oct 25, 2017
42,659
I'm skeptical, but watching the video.


Also, what does this mean? No logic behind why this description should make anyone distrust its creator, when explicitly clickbait videos are posted on youtube, everyday. That's a clear form of psychological manipulation, not this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belief_bias
Yeah, I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean either. Should he have left it completely blank for dramatic purposes?
 

Deleted member 36578

Dec 21, 2017
26,561
He's trying to discredit the accusers the majority of the video. What a piece of work. I seriously do not understand why he just didn't quit and get a job away from the internet. He can't seriously think he'll ever live any of this down can he?
 

zainmosni

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Apr 17, 2018
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They were apparently working together to make jared look bad, one wrote an article about how they were in the hospital for a brain injury during the time frame in which she sexted jared and the other accuser was sending porn to game grumps and begging for pay pal donations while also running a gg porn blog, and jared has the chats that showed they never sent pics to eacherother. Again this info about the under age accusers even before this kinda out there and proven to be false. Jared is still a gross ass dude for the sexting tumblr blog, which he acknowledges was an abuse of power but doesn't really apologize for.
 
Jun 25, 2019
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First of all, none of this is true, it's all lies and people want to put him down. <-- His words

-He does show some evidence and screenshots of the 2 people who claimed he'd encourage them to send nudes whilst underaged.
-Then he says he doesn't remember showing Pamela Horton's nudes and he feels that isn't something he would do(he backs this up by saying his friends agree with him)
- He claims he didn't cheat on Heidi because he got texts that prove it(can't show it because of legal reasons).
- He ends the video by saying he wishes that people would stop harrassing him. Then he says Heidi, Holly, Chai and Charlie.
- He won't be going anywhere. He will continue to be making videos like normal.

Appreciated.
I guess I'll check those "receipts" that I assume are the evidence he talks about.
 

TheCed

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Oct 27, 2017
2,418
So I've only watched 15 minutes so far, but this isn't a typical Youtuber apology video. He does apologize, but also goes into a lot of detail into the allegations. So far just one, with one of the persons claiming he encouraged them to send nudes while underage. He shows, via Medium posts of that person, that the same person claimed to suffer from memory loss in the exact 6 months this supposedly happened in due to a brain injury.


So far, it seems to be worth watching, if only to form your own opinion. It's not some empty "woe is me"-bullshit, at least so far.

Yep, I have the same feelings as you.
I feel like he was wrong on many things but maybe the underage matter was blown out of proportion.

Maybe I'm wrong too... I don't know. I want to ear some other peoples opinions on the matter in case I missed something and I missed some BS.
 

Cenauru

Dragon Girl Supremacy
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Oct 25, 2017
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On the one hand, I agree. On the other, his manipulations shouldn't fade away.
We can discuss abusers and what they've done and how we should try and combat them, without bringing up videos that will give him more views and potentially lead people to him. I don't have to even watch the video to know this is just 40+ minutes of bullshit and damage control.
 

FallenGrace

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Oct 27, 2017
6,036
Wouldn't click on it anyway even if you paid me but especially with that nanafactured thumbnail.

He can fuck right off especially with news hitting today.
 

Hailinel

Shamed a mod for a tag
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Oct 27, 2017
35,527
He's trying to discredit the accusers the majority of the video. What a piece of work. I seriously do not understand why he just didn't quit and get a job away from the internet. He can't seriously think he'll ever live any of this down can he?
He's obviously delusional enough to try.

And I'm curious where he recorded this video. Some undisclosed bunker in Aladdin, Wyoming?
 

Odesu

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Oct 26, 2017
5,545
Yep, I have the same feelings as you.
I feel like he was wrong on many things but maybe the underage matter was blown out of proportion.

Maybe I'm wrong too... I don't know. I want to ear some other peoples opinions on the matter in case I missed something and I missed some BS.

I feel like the cheating thing should be entirely out of the conversation to be honest. It's very clear the whole situation is messy as fuck and it has absolutely nothing to do with accusations of soliciting underage nude pictures from fans.

So, an update: For the second accusation, where the victim accused him of never having asked his age and ignoring that he implied being underage in the chat: He shows pictures from the rest of the conversation - which starts with him asking if he was 18, seemingly at the start of the convo. According to those pics, the victim answers "Yes, of course!". Which is a direct contradiction to his accusations.

He also states that he never sent him a dick pic anyway.
 
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VonGreckler

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Oct 25, 2017
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There's literally pictures of his dick on the internet that he sent to underage fans, so I really don't care about what he has to say.
 

Deleted member 36578

Dec 21, 2017
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He's obviously delusional enough to try.

And I'm curious where he recorded this video. Some undisclosed bunker in Aladdin, Wyoming?

Heh'
Glancing at the YouTube comments he still has some fan base , but still....
I wish he just disappeared.
 

Deleted member 48897

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Oct 22, 2018
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Feb 12, 2019
1,429
Dude needed to quietly disappear from the Internet and deal with this stuff off-camera. Coming back this late and deciding to fight it by saying we've all been lied to is... maybe the worst possible optics imaginable.
 

DNAbro

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Oct 25, 2017
25,934
Dude needed to quietly disappear from the Internet and deal with this stuff off-camera. Coming back this late and deciding to fight it by saying we've all been lied to is... maybe the worst possible optics imaginable.

He starts out saying he wanted to make sure everything was legally okay before talking about it.
 

Sylvie

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Aug 26, 2019
35
accusing the plaintiff as a faker for being mentally ill
yikes
this is why people with mental health problems often get ignored,.
 

Shoozle

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Dec 2, 2017
319
UK
People should still be willing to listen to what he has to say even if by the end the outcome of what you think about the person is still the same. Watch it on a mirror site where he doesn't get any clicks/views if you have to, but if you are so willing to condemn someone for life because of tweets/images, you should at least be willing to spare even 10 minutes of the video to see their defence to serious accusations. I know that requires some effort compared to calling someone FUCKING SCUM on a forum but hey ho.
 

Fintendo

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Jun 5, 2019
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I didn't notice this until y'all pointed it out in this thread and I love that even more.



Dunno what the standard of "proof" you have here is but there are plenty of corroborating accounts of Alec Holowka's behavior, at least.
I meant victims and camera proof, sorry for a vague question, I will look into his previous behaviour.
 

Quantza

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Oct 27, 2017
641
Wouldn't click on it anyway even if you paid me but especially with that nanafactured thumbnail.

He can fuck right off especially with news hitting today.

Maybe I should swear at you for not following the scientific method? lol
Just getting mad doesn't mean you are correct. It makes you ignorant (not sugarcoating this).
People like you seriously need to learn how to use the internet, or it will use you.

If ProJared is correct, what happened is just another instance of social engineering (and I mean if):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trojan_Horse
 

Niceguydan8

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Nov 1, 2017
3,411
The only reason anyone is going to watch that video is to hate him that bit more.

I'm tempted, to be honest.

I'm watching to see what he has to say. I really don't have any intent to "hate him that bit more" or whatever. We've heard plenty from the other side and while I'm probably not going to be sold that Jared is innocent or free of blame, I think it's worth listening to what he has to say.
 

Servbot24

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
43,142
Anybody have a strong enough stomach to try to check out those receipts? I might if I wasn't at work.
I watched the first half. I don't really know the full story about him, but everything he said seemed like a fair defense to me.

Judging from the reaction in this thread I am assuming there is much more to the story that he is not addressing in his video, but I don't know much beyond what he's presenting.
 

Asbsand

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Oct 30, 2017
9,901
Denmark
He's essentially negotiating his crimes to go from severe to less severe. That's my TL;DR after 15 minutes. He may even be right but the dude was showing his dick to "consenting adults" in hatsune miku cosplay. (I saw the cropped picture in the original thread)

Even if this guy was innocent of legal wrongdoing he's lost whatever brand you need to have in order to be a monetized content creator. This shit is too hot to touch.
 

Kain-Nosgoth

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Oct 25, 2017
15,576
Switzerland
I mocked him a lot, and unsubscribed, the underage thing is fucked up, but i really hope we're not wrong on this...

Falsely accusing someone is always terrible, i don't believe him one bit here, but it can happens that we're wrong sometime

Obviously this will have to wait until we see these "proof"
 

Minthara

Freelance Market Director
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Oct 25, 2017
7,940
Montreal
Whether or not someone has brain damage when you tried to hook up with then while they were underage not only makes you even more of a monster, but it also says a lot about you that you attempt to deflect from serious accusations by saying "but the other person was possibly doing something bad too! She's even mentally ill!"

This is an attempt to PR spin things so he can try and make a comeback and it's coming from the same place that has allowed people like Louis CK to come back. He doesn't deserve the come back and it's gross that anyone is even falling for this giant deflection.

This was also pretty clearly timed to release while his ex-wife was away and had finally started moving on. It's typical abusive behaviour "Oh? You are finally moving on from me? Let's hook you back into the situation to prove I still have control."

As the Simpsons so eloquently put it, just don't look people. Any noise generated from this is just furthering the abuse and just dragging the victimized women back through the mud.
 

Loudninja

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Oct 27, 2017
42,216
People should still be willing to listen to what he has to say even if by the end the outcome of what you think about the person is still the same. Watch it on a mirror site where he doesn't get any clicks/views if you have to, but if you are so willing to condemn someone for life because of tweets/images, you should at least be willing to spare even 10 minutes of the video to see their defence to serious accusations. I know that requires some effort compared to calling someone FUCKING SCUM on a forum but hey ho.
Ah no we dont have to listen to a damn thing
 

Bitmap Frogs

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Sep 16, 2018
705
They were apparently working together to make jared look bad, one wrote an article about how they were in the hospital for a brain injury during the time frame in which she sexted jared and the other accuser was sending porn to game grumps and begging for pay pal donations while also running a gg porn blog, and jared has the chats that showed they never sent pics to eacherother.

So the whole underage angle was a scam? holy shit.
 

Alien Bob

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Nov 25, 2017
2,466
People should still be willing to listen to what he has to say even if by the end the outcome of what you think about the person is still the same. Watch it on a mirror site where he doesn't get any clicks/views if you have to, but if you are so willing to condemn someone for life because of tweets/images, you should at least be willing to spare even 10 minutes of the video to see their defence to serious accusations. I know that requires some effort compared to calling someone FUCKING SCUM on a forum but hey ho.

"Condemn someone for life" are you serious?
 
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