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Prince Philip has died aged 99, Buckingham Palace announces
- Thread starter Rodrigues solitaire
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RIP,
For anyone living to that age they have seen the world change, but for him in that position with so much of his life given to public service. What a life.
For anyone living to that age they have seen the world change, but for him in that position with so much of his life given to public service. What a life.
I mean, his life was pretttty decent compared to a majority of the world's population. Not to mention the sheer racism the dude spouted in his 70 odd years of publicity for the crown. Granted, I'm Australian and believe the Royals are a ridiculous medieval societal structure that is only being kept alive thanks to the sheer impact on tourism. Plus the people in that life don't want to give up the cushy lifestyle.
His death is sad for those close to him, but outside of the diehard monarchy enthusiasts there are tons of people dying that are just as important to someone. No life is valued over another, and especially someone like Prince Phillip or really any monarchy that is placed above everyone because of medieval traditions. As Monty Python famously said, "strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government! Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony!"
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On the surface, that may be so, especially for those not in the UK. But he was part of an estate that, guess what, was perfectly willing to push for special treatment just to ram home the point that the Firm is above the rest of their subjects.
Queen lobbied for changes to three more laws, documents reveal
Road safety, heritage and private land leasing were all subject of pressure from palace, records show
www.theguardian.com
The Duke of Edinburgh Award Scheme was founded by Philip and encourages young people to engage in self improvement for the sake of learning new skills and having expereinces they will go on to treasure. The scheme has gone on to expand to 144 nations globally.
Prince Philip did bits for World Wild Fund, being President of WWF-UK, WWF-International, and President Emiritus of WWF-International. He founded Australia's first and best known environmental group: Australia Conservation Foundation.
The guy is the epitome of the british racist, and he's also had a huge impact on the world in the time he's been alive.
The sycophancy and fawning over the Royal family in the UK really gets on my tits. I'm glad I don't watch broadcast TV any more, because wall to wall coverage of people excusing this racist/xenophobic turd would make me gag. They're not full on evil, some of them do charity work and take up causes that are important and having the clout of Royal involvement no doubt helped those causes immensely. That doesn't excuse the level of bigotry he displayed, despite the media's desperation to call them "gaffes" to soften the blow. Just like PewDiePie's charitable work doesn't shield him from shitty behaviour - no matter how many on YouTube wanted it to.
Someone like Phillip, in his privileged position, caused a lot of harm in encouraging such flagrant casual racism on the world stage.
Someone like Phillip, in his privileged position, caused a lot of harm in encouraging such flagrant casual racism on the world stage.
How much impact did he, personally, have, as opposed to whoever would have subbed into those positions? Was he an unusually effective leader? (Genuinely asking)
They're both horribly racist and sexist peices of shit that by having a public voice have helped propagate those views within the masses. Yes Trump had power to do more but I don't see any reason that Phillip should be given any extra credit for not actually having the power to act more on his horrible views than he did.
That's true but I don't see why we have to be polite about the fact an awful person is gone. Bear in mind the country did its damn best to get The Witch Is Dead to number 1 when Thatcher died.
They weren't gaffs, they were racist comments.
Seriously, the fact we have people who tow the party line of defence and don't call it for what it is just blows my mind.
That's half the trouble discussing the royals, some of it is their bargain for keeping their positions and privilege, and they have a huge team working for them that we pay for in the end anyway.
This was my thinking, the schemes he set up are personally attributed to him but isn't that kinda his "job" as minimal as it was? They talk about it like he used his power to do it out of the kindness of his heart
It was mentioned earlier in the thread but apparently the title of King or even King consort automatically means they have more power over the queen no matter what because shockingly its an old sexist tradition we are still following.
It's hard to say. Philip was considered ahead of his time on the topic of conservation. People who have met him who I respect a great deal like Brian Cox have said that he was fiercely intelligent and curious, which I feel would match a conservation position quite well. He basically founded WWF and it's gone on to become the biggest organisation in the world.
Is this slightly over the top?
My 16 month year old is watching Children's BBC and this is splashed across the screen.
You'd think a major international incident had happened if you walked in and saw that without knowing.
My 16 month year old is watching Children's BBC and this is splashed across the screen.
You'd think a major international incident had happened if you walked in and saw that without knowing.
They weren't wrong. The guy was way out of line with his comments
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For anyone who is curious what it was.
Is this slightly over the top?
My 16 month year old is watching Children's BBC and this is splashed across the screen.
You'd think a major international incident had happened if you walked in and saw that without knowing.
I imagine when the Queen dies they'll just straight up say it rather than trying to clickbait into watching?
Gotta indoctrinate the kids early into royal worship.Is this slightly over the top?
My 16 month year old is watching Children's BBC and this is splashed across the screen.
You'd think a major international incident had happened if you walked in and saw that without knowing.
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So we're good with calling people pricks around here now? Good to know...
I don't think it's ever funny to celebrate the death of a WW2 veteran. It's a dwindling population as is.
From what I've read, he was 'heavily' involved, but I don't know what that consists of. Certainly, as a scheme, it's something I've heard very positive things about.
I did find this quote from him to be quite typical Philip though - via Guardian liveblog:
"He was closely involved in the organisation throughout and defended it against accusations that it was an award only for the middle-classes. In 2016 the scheme celebrated its 60th anniversary.
Despite his part in its success, Philip was always modest about his role. He once maintained that he "couldn't care less" whether the scheme was seen as an important part of his legacy.
"Legacy? ... It's got nothing to do with me. It's there for people to use. I couldn't care less," he barked.
He added: "It's relevant too because it's part of the process of growing up."
This is part of the protocol for BBC as the national public service broadcaster.Is this slightly over the top?
My 16 month year old is watching Children's BBC and this is splashed across the screen.
You'd think a major international incident had happened if you walked in and saw that without knowing.
The death of the Queen's husband is a top level incident that has to be handled in a very particular way like this.
It doesn't matter whether most of us don't care - that's the BBC's job.
When the person got a 2 week ban for essentially this:
I think it's fair enough.
I mean, they didn't make her use the tradesman's entrance.
Is this slightly over the top?
My 16 month year old is watching Children's BBC and this is splashed across the screen.
You'd think a major international incident had happened if you walked in and saw that without knowing.
Bing got fucked up when a butterfly died, not sure how he would handle that.
They were right to be upset and the mods were okay with it so yeah sure. If the shoe fits
TV gone a bit nuts, BBC1 and BBC2 cancelling all shows today. ITV and Channel 5 on the bandwagon too.
QVC have stopped completely lmao...
Channel 4 getting some hate on twitter.
QVC have stopped completely lmao...
Channel 4 getting some hate on twitter.
Hahahha I genuinely find the show almost unbearable at times, especially the patronising voice on that weird orange thing!
Just wait until the Queen dies. BBC aren't allowed to broadcast comedy for 2 weeks.
He could have been king consort, they didn't give him the title to not upstage the queen because most people would assume that the king is in charge not differentiating between who's regnant and who is consort.
