Lol first time I've seen " <insert white majority country> first" without a racist undertone.
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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau livestream regarding major coronavirus announcement
- Thread starter Liquid Plejades
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My thing is by exempting the US you hurt your arguments for why anyone else is necessary so it makes the entire decision look weak.
Home = Canada. They're not stopping us from leaving either.
CBC said non-residents can't get in. So I'm guessing most Americans would be barred too. No?
Without a plan of re-imbursement or pausing of things like Mortgages, how would one even shutdown every non-essential business?
I was expecting this, yeah. There's still a need for logistics back and forth, but letting in day trip tourists just wanting to spend American Dollars on lower priced Canadian items is... not great.
Disappointed but not surprised.
No one wants to have the economy guaranteed to be destroyed on their watch.
I hope this isn't the final word though, it is only a matter of time when they will have no choice.
Outcome won't be good either way but still prefer action now.
I still get the feeling a week from now, government will have no choice. Those US numbers are going to be very bad soon.
No one wants to have the economy guaranteed to be destroyed on their watch.
I hope this isn't the final word though, it is only a matter of time when they will have no choice.
Outcome won't be good either way but still prefer action now.
I still get the feeling a week from now, government will have no choice. Those US numbers are going to be very bad soon.
It's effectively impossible to ban us citizens from entering Canada and vice versa over the border without a gigantic overhaul of trade between the two countries. Doing so without figuring out how to handle supply chains of essential goods that travel between both countries would be disastrous. It would, however, be simple to ban them from air travel, which I imagine isn't happening because of Trump being an idiot.
But the point here is to prevent reaching Italy levels.
I mean... what part of it is unclear? Self-isolate as much as possible, don't travel etc.
You could make exceptions for people with work visas, surely.
Good thing Trudeau and his team are handling it and this isn't ERA plays PM
Would probably destroy our economy without thinking things through first
Would probably destroy our economy without thinking things through first
PRs are fine.
I would be OK with that.
But there's no mandate from the government.
No mandatory quarantine for travelers returning to Canada.
No mandatory flight bans for international travel, even to high risk countries like Italy.
No mandatory bans on large gatherings.
No mandatory restrictions on employers asking employees to come to the workplace. Once again, this works against the less affluent people who work in places like warehouses.
Pathetic.
Yeah sometimes I legit wonder what people are thinking...
With proper management of anyone coming in, i.e. forced quarantine regardless, then they still can.
As miserable as it is, given how much of Canada's economy relies on the States, they can't just close everything off immediately. It's a really delicate balancing act.
Do I go to work if I need to stay home? They need to be more clear. I am not unclear myself, I am thinking about all the morons still going to parades and bars.
people need also to let people live their lives
senior citizens need people to bring them food and supplies. locking them up without supervision is bad
senior citizens need people to bring them food and supplies. locking them up without supervision is bad
He could have banned non-essential and non-commerce travel from the US.
Barring US citizens doesn't mean shooting anyone with a US license plate on the car, there were exemptions for trade and officials in this announcement.
Refusing to ban US citizens is some chickenshit move when so many cases got transmitted to Canada through the US and its inept healthcare system/pandemic response, anyway.
Probably a next step, again everything is on the table as he said
This is a very technocratic cabinet working on this, they can't go 0-100 probably
Grocery store deliveries and pharmacy deliveries will always be exempt
Don't worry you'll have your minimum wage or barely above workers, conscripted under threat of job loss, keeping the food and supplies chain going with zero recognition or thanks
We got you covered brah, come on in and ransack our stores. We're here for you, we have no choice
Also family members of PR or citizens who aren't one themselves.
The purpose of closing borders is to protect us from having the virus spread by asymptomatic carriers. How do people not understand that by allowing US citizens who currently pose a massive threat to us based off the lack of measures, testing and projected number of infected you risk spreading it to our citizens. Many Canadians already refuse to social distance and without enforced measures we are just quickly closing the window to prevent mass outbreaks.
Ugh. I can't watch this, but I want him to give the instruction that people who can work from home should work from home. Some employers seem to be waiting for this. Has he done that yet?
Not trying to at least reduce the amount of visitors from the US is going to fuck us if it continues. This is our window of opportunity and it's closing; I feel it's likely the situation down there is going to be the worst because of the lack of testing and the systemic issues that are being demonstrated. The type of people who want to be traveling at this time are probably not the most careful people either.
All the self-isolation stuff right now is purely honor system. There's definitely assholes coming home from other countries and feeling like they are just gonna hit costco instead of self-isolating. I heard a woman saying she was supposed to be self-isolating, but her family was annoying her so she was going to restaurants and bars. So any progress towards closing those is probably a good thing. It's going to happen anyway. Another week of business for places isn't going to make a huuuge difference to how damaging this will be for them, but it could make a large difference in curtailing the spread.
As for elderly people, now is a good time to give them a call and see if they need anything, especially if they don't have family supports.
Not trying to at least reduce the amount of visitors from the US is going to fuck us if it continues. This is our window of opportunity and it's closing; I feel it's likely the situation down there is going to be the worst because of the lack of testing and the systemic issues that are being demonstrated. The type of people who want to be traveling at this time are probably not the most careful people either.
All the self-isolation stuff right now is purely honor system. There's definitely assholes coming home from other countries and feeling like they are just gonna hit costco instead of self-isolating. I heard a woman saying she was supposed to be self-isolating, but her family was annoying her so she was going to restaurants and bars. So any progress towards closing those is probably a good thing. It's going to happen anyway. Another week of business for places isn't going to make a huuuge difference to how damaging this will be for them, but it could make a large difference in curtailing the spread.
As for elderly people, now is a good time to give them a call and see if they need anything, especially if they don't have family supports.
Trudeau said that Canadians, as much as is possible, should stay at home. Short of regulation and enforcement, which would almost certainly require the involvement of Parliament, I don't think he can be any stronger on that front.
(I do think that's coming if things continue as-is, but you may also find local jurisdictions moving earlier.)
So a limited travel ban.
No relief for displaced workers, no job protections, no increases to EI. But I'm not "supposed" to go out.
Guess I'll just go work my service job and wait to to die.
No relief for displaced workers, no job protections, no increases to EI. But I'm not "supposed" to go out.
Guess I'll just go work my service job and wait to to die.
He really should have shut down all non-essential services. People will continue to spread it within our communities.
I can easily work from home and will be for the foreseeable future, but my family and friends don't all have that luxury and have been told to continue to come to work until things are shut down.
I can easily work from home and will be for the foreseeable future, but my family and friends don't all have that luxury and have been told to continue to come to work until things are shut down.
that has happened multiple times...by multiple parties. Public Health Agency, prime minister, etc.
That's what I want to know. I'm worried about paying rent.