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Presidential Debate Commission Announces ‘Additional Tools’ For Moderators To ‘Maintain Order’
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Truth. But then people wouldn't get the spectacle they crave, I guess.
I do wonder how they can shut off mics effectively, because if you're standing 10 feet from someone and that person is shouting at you while you're making a point, you're going to be able to hear it, but the audience at home won't and you'll just look rattled because you're trying to get your point out while someone is shouting in your ear.
I'm not sure if turning the mics off would work, but I hope they think that through.
Muting mics traditionally hasn't been done because there is some value when someone says something completely ridicuolous to say "That's not true." For instance, Trump saying Biden calls black people super predators. That never happened, Biden has never said that. And Trump keeps saying it, 4 or 5 times, there's value in having Biden be able to say "uhh, I've never said that..." You don't want to enable the liar to liar with impunity and no challenge, especially for the question segments where there isn't a follow-up, they'll save their lies for that moment.
I just don't know how they handle it right where it actually informs people and protects our Democracy. I think it's very dangerous to have a president get a platform to hundreds of millions of Americans where he basically says we have no stable Democracy and voting is irrelevant. Like ... at some point in his diatribe against American democracy, in his statement to "Stand back and stand by" to violent terrorists, you're handing Hitler the megaphone.
I'm not sure if turning the mics off would work, but I hope they think that through.
Muting mics traditionally hasn't been done because there is some value when someone says something completely ridicuolous to say "That's not true." For instance, Trump saying Biden calls black people super predators. That never happened, Biden has never said that. And Trump keeps saying it, 4 or 5 times, there's value in having Biden be able to say "uhh, I've never said that..." You don't want to enable the liar to liar with impunity and no challenge, especially for the question segments where there isn't a follow-up, they'll save their lies for that moment.
I just don't know how they handle it right where it actually informs people and protects our Democracy. I think it's very dangerous to have a president get a platform to hundreds of millions of Americans where he basically says we have no stable Democracy and voting is irrelevant. Like ... at some point in his diatribe against American democracy, in his statement to "Stand back and stand by" to violent terrorists, you're handing Hitler the megaphone.
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This is what I think should be done, and I'm honestly surprised they haven't done it sooner, as in, a decade+ ago.
I think they'd still run into the issue of people talking past their time though, like during the primaries. They'd need to exercise muting to keep them from going on wild rants after their time is up. Maybe have a timer that mutes automatically 10 seconds after their time is up. Gives the moderator just enough time to say "YOUR TIME IS UP IM SORRY" before they get muted by the computer... not the moderator.
That way they can't claim the moderator is biased and not letting them talk etc.
Wallace was poor a couple times on the questions, but about 95% of it was out of his hands. If one of two parties decides they don't want a debate, and that the moderator doesn't matter, there's nothing the moderator can do about it if there's no mute button. When the drugged up psychopath yelling bullshit on the stage is POTUS, you can't have him physically removed.
How about they lose speaking time and the other candidate is given that time to speak. The more you speak over the other person, the less time you get for yourself.
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This is the list of future moderators. To be honest i'm not quite familiar (Or remember) who they are, so not sure if they could handle it better (tools or not)
Vice presidential debate:
Susan Page, Washington Bureau Chief, USA Today
Wednesday, October 7, The University of Utah, Salt Lake City, UT
Second presidential debate (town meeting):
Steve Scully, Senior Executive Producer & Political Editor, C-SPAN Networks
Thursday, October 15, Adrienne Arsht Center for the Performing Arts, Miami, FL
Third presidential debate:
Kristen Welker, Co-Anchor Weekend TODAY, White House Correspondent, NBC News
Thursday, October 22, Belmont University, Nashville, TN
At least they are not Joe Rogan.....
Vice presidential debate:
Susan Page, Washington Bureau Chief, USA Today
Wednesday, October 7, The University of Utah, Salt Lake City, UT
Second presidential debate (town meeting):
Steve Scully, Senior Executive Producer & Political Editor, C-SPAN Networks
Thursday, October 15, Adrienne Arsht Center for the Performing Arts, Miami, FL
Third presidential debate:
Kristen Welker, Co-Anchor Weekend TODAY, White House Correspondent, NBC News
Thursday, October 22, Belmont University, Nashville, TN
At least they are not Joe Rogan.....
If he started screaming because his mic is off that would come across very poorly. I hope he does it.
Or video for that matter. Show the person who's turn it is to speak the whole time. If the other blabbers on, let them do it off camera.
Wallace did not do a good job and the fact that he announced beforehand that his intention was to stay out of the candidates' way and that he wouldn't be fact checking opened the door for Trump's bullshit. I bet Trump looked the exact same during his debate prep because he knew that "owning" Biden was better meat for his followers than actually answering questions.
Even in my third world country, moderators cut the mics in presidential debates. So how the FUCK was not this considered previously?? Especially when you all had his track record with this kind of debates. We all knew what was coming with someone like Trump, who pretty much is known for interrupting and disrespectng anyone in the room, no matter who.
lol whatever. Donny is just going to elbow through all that shit, whatever they come up with. They needed a moderator to shut him down and Wallace clearly wasn't the one.
Man, what a shitshow that would be. Woman... and black! Trump's head would literally explode right there on the stage. Actually, on second thought...
But seriously, I would love to see this, since Trump just can't stand her not even a little bit!
I've been watching her career since her Ferguson reporting. She's exactly the no-nonsense style of professional that we need these days.
Have Vic Berger moderate with his airhorn.
Add an active referee to fine candidates based on rule violations. Every time Trump tries to speak over Biden during Biden's time, the ref deducts time from Trump and adds it to Biden's overall time.
"This next question goes to you first, Mr. President. You will have 15 seconds to respond and Vice President Biden will have 8 minutes if he so chooses. Or he can bank that for the next question."
Or, you know, do both. Fine them for speaking over the other or going overtime and use the airhorn for every 30 seconds they violate the rules.
Add an active referee to fine candidates based on rule violations. Every time Trump tries to speak over Biden during Biden's time, the ref deducts time from Trump and adds it to Biden's overall time.
"This next question goes to you first, Mr. President. You will have 15 seconds to respond and Vice President Biden will have 8 minutes if he so chooses. Or he can bank that for the next question."
Or, you know, do both. Fine them for speaking over the other or going overtime and use the airhorn for every 30 seconds they violate the rules.
"and Biden shot back with insults"
FUCK THIS BOTH SIDES BULLSHIT
Trump is the problem. Biden is NOT the problem or even a small part of the problem. PERIOD.
FUCK THIS BOTH SIDES BULLSHIT
Trump is the problem. Biden is NOT the problem or even a small part of the problem. PERIOD.
Yeah, I'm also surprised.
One other thing that I really enjoyed from the debate last night:
There was no engaged audience. Other than the opening applause, it was just the three men the entire time.
I think one reason Trump came off as more obnoxious than 2016 was the lack of an audiences' boos, cheers, oooooooooooo, applause, etc.
I hope they never bring back audiences.
I get why, but could he have realistically done anything to control it better? Without tools I mean.
Agreed. The nation is the only audience that matters. This is not a town hall.
I'm tired of this "both sides" bs. Fucking losers go to move. One side causes commotion and ruckus and that means it's "both sides". Understand and comprehend the situation you dumb fucks
I seriously think this is the best idea, but I doubt the parties would agree to it.
lol that would be great, especially if it launched trump 30 feet in the air with no cushion to land on
Honestly, what can Wallace have done? Trump is a belligerent asshole.
There are expectations of decorum in a debate. If you can't follow them, your opponent should refuse because then it is not a debate.
I keep wondering, if it comes to this, that Trump won't just stride over and use the mic of the moderator or Biden just to get his way.
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They should reconstruct the set from "Win Ben Stein's Money" and use that
Oh great, now by all appearances Biden will just be stammering and distracted while in reality Trump will still be incoherently ranting in the background. This is giving the turd an out.
Wouldnt matter because Trump would still talk above his allocated time
Just mute the mics, warn them there time is up so they can quickly wrap up there comment in 5-10 seconds, then the mics go on mute. Thats it
This is a good solution, completely solves the "Biden will still hear Trump" issue too.
I like it, too bad they're not in isolated sound booths, so we don't have to listen to Trump ramble on.
