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SilentPanda

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Nov 6, 2017
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United States President Donald Trump plans to veto national defence legislation passed overwhelmingly by Congress last week, White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany said on Tuesday.

There is broad bipartisan support in Congress for the annual defence bill, which would authorise a $740bn annual budget for the fiscal year 2021 and enact a slew of new US military policies.

"I don't have a timeline for you on that but he does plan to veto it," McEnany told reporters at a White House news conference.

Trump objects to language in the National Defense Authorization Act that would constrain his ability to withdraw US troops from Afghanistan, South Korea and Germany, McEnany said.

The president also opposes a provision sponsored by Senator Elizabeth Warren that would require the Pentagon to change the names of military bases named for former Confederate soldiers who fought in the US Civil War.

"I should say, problems with the NDAA go beyond just the absence of Section 230 repeal and beyond the inclusion of the Warren amendment," McEnany said.

The bill requires the Trump administration to submit a detailed report to Congress before withdrawing troops as agreed with the Taliban and requires submission of its February 29 peace agreement with the Taliban to Congress for review and oversight.

The incoming Biden administration must also report back on the Taliban's compliance with the deal, the bill stipulates.

Trump has until December 23 to return the bill to Congress with an explanation of his rationale for the veto.

Some Trump advisers, both in and out of the White House, have privately counseled Trump not to veto the bill, the Reuters news service reported, citing an unnamed person familiar with the situation.

The president would have little to gain politically and would risk being overridden by Congress, the person said.

It remains to be seen, however, whether that level support would hold up in the face of a Trump veto. A number of House Republicans have said that, while they voted for the bill initially, they would not vote to overturn a Trump veto.


Vetoing the bill likely would force members of Congress to return to Washington in between the upcoming Christmas and New Year's holidays in order to re-pass the bill before January 3.

www.aljazeera.com

President Trump to veto national defence bill, White House says

Broad support in Congress for bill containing language that would impose limits on US troop withdrawals from overseas.
 

Fat4all

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Oct 25, 2017
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GOP will have to choose between passing the bill or not pissing off trump supporters
 

The Albatross

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Oct 25, 2017
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Wonder if Republicans will be on board to override his veto or whether they'll cave and DEFUND THE TROOPS.

I've been expecting trump to bluster on this but cave once it comes to his desk and then make a big show about how he loves the troops. It's kind of his go to move. When people call his bluff he usually folds
 

Aselith

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Oct 27, 2017
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His real objection is the twitter shit though, right? And they found an additional pretext somewhere else in the bill?
 

Domino Theory

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Nov 6, 2017
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He objects to language restricting his ability to withdraw troops for...a literal month?
 

Sheepinator

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Jul 25, 2018
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First he stole from the military to fund a campaign project he failed to fund through Congress despite having the majority, and now this. Yep, he hates the troops, or as he calls them, "losers".
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Actually this will be interesting to watch the republicans squirm. Vote no on the re-vote and piss off lots of their base (anti-military) or vote yes and piss off trump.
 

Lost Lemurian

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Nov 30, 2019
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I wonder how QAnon spins this, when they think he's about to use the military to seize power and remain in office.

I have no doubt they will spin it, it's just fascinating (and terrifying) to watch how they'll spin anything into the 5D chess game.
 

rjinaz

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Wonder if Republicans will be on board to override his veto or whether they'll cave and DEFUND THE TROOPS.

I've been expecting trump to bluster on this but cave once it comes to his desk and then make a big show about how he loves the troops. It's kind of his go to move. When people call his bluff he usually folds
Republicans are too good at controlling the narrative on the masses. There is no way the general public will end up seeing this as an attack on the troops if Republicans don't pass it. Republicans will blame it on the socialists on the Left for it failing and enough will believe it in any way that matters.

If Trump vetoes, Republicans will not pass it. There is no way they will open themselves up to the wrath of Trump or his magats with the Georgia election on the line.

But yeah, I see it entirely possible Trump caves in the end. But at the same time, he also wants to believe he still has power so he very well may use that power to veto this, flex his muscles if you will.
 

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He absolutely isn't. He's daring Republicans to publicly rebuke him by overriding his veto. Hasn't happened once in four years. It's far from a sure thing.

If a legislator votes to pass a bill and then goes back on their own vote when they have enough of a majority to override a veto, then it damages their credibility. Lobbyists won't trust them, it's like they stole their donation money.
 

TeenageFBI

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If a legislator votes to pass a bill and then goes back on their own vote when they have enough of a majority to override a veto, then it damages their credibility. Lobbyists won't trust them, it's like they stole their donation money.
LOL @ Republicans worrying about credibility.

It's an interesting dilemma. I'm honestly not sure which way they'll go. If the last four years have taught me anything, they'll side with Trump. ..but it's a lame duck session and McConnell just admitted that Biden won..
 

RiOrius

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Oct 27, 2017
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You keep sayin' this, but the bill is on your desk. Either veto it or sign it. The longer you dangle it the weaker you'll look when you chicken out, Donny.