President Biden got called out during a powerful performance of Lil Baby at the 2021 Grammy Awards

Armadilo · Mar 14, 2021

Best clip I could find on twitter, it was during the Lil Baby performance of The Bigger Picture

This is for Biden and the Democrats who have to deliver on change or people won't show up again, the people have delivered the votes and want to see the change that they campaigned on and promised.

peppermints · Mar 14, 2021

I mean I don't disagree but what should they have done at this point when the pandemic is raging and the stimulus is top priority?

ZeoVGM · Mar 14, 2021

That whole performance was incredible and should be added to the OP if it becomes available on YouTube.

Aurongel · Mar 14, 2021

I didn't read that as rude or confrontational, sounds perfectly reasonable to demand that of a new president IMO.

AlteredBeast · Mar 14, 2021

Call out senators and reps... Like what more can Biden be doing?

Call out the 0 Republicans who voted to help people, even though many are touting the bill helping people...

Armadilo · Mar 14, 2021

ZeoVGM said:
That whole performance was incredible and should be added to the OP if it becomes available on YouTube.

I'll try to, but if you see it I can add it in the future

ZeoVGM · Mar 14, 2021

peppermints said:
I mean I don't disagree but what should they have done at this point when the pandemic is raging and the stimulus is top priority?

I don't think the point of "calling out" Biden there was to say. "You should be passing police reform before relief for the pandemic."

It's to say, "Don't forget your promises. Something needs to be done."

Aurongel said:
I didn't read that as rude or confrontational, sounds perfectly reasonable to demand that of a new president IMO.

This.

AlteredBeast · Mar 14, 2021

Police reform does need to be the next priority after the stimulus helps the economy and families get backed on their feet. And if the message is intended in a "don't forget your promises" then I think it is totally reasonable.

Armadilo · Mar 14, 2021

ZeoVGM said:
I don't think the point of "calling out" Biden there was to say. "You should be passing police reform before relief for the pandemic."

It's to say, "Don't forget your promises. Something needs to be done."

This.

Definitely is about the promise, Like Biden has spoken about such changes well now people expect action and to finally make it happen

Squarehard · Mar 14, 2021

You and I have very different definitions of someone being "called out".

RecRoulette · Mar 14, 2021

Aurongel said:
I didn't read that as rude or confrontational, sounds perfectly reasonable to demand that of a new president IMO.

100%

TheHunter · Mar 14, 2021

Aurongel said:
I didn't read that as rude or confrontational, sounds perfectly reasonable to demand that of a new president IMO.

Agreed.

GCQ · Mar 14, 2021

This seems more like being reminded than called out.

Yourfawthaaa · Mar 14, 2021

Aurongel said:
I didn't read that as rude or confrontational, sounds perfectly reasonable to demand that of a new president IMO.

Agreed.

BlueTsunami · Mar 14, 2021

peppermints said:
I mean I don't disagree but what should they have done at this point when the pandemic is raging and the stimulus is top priority?

Right now? Create an independent body staffed with minority voices with expertise in this field and follow their guidance as to how to proceed. Otherwise the can will be continued to be kicked down the road, over and over again.

Maybe this body has been created already but using covid as cover is not the way, especially when a hard fought for government has finally come into place that can actually make some moves on the issue.

TaterTots · Mar 14, 2021

AlteredBeast said:
Call out senators and reps... Like what more can Biden be doing?

Call out the 0 Republicans who voted to help people, even though many are touting the bill helping people...

I agree with this. A president only has so much power and with how close the Senate is, well its going to be tough to get shit done, but he can't sit and not give effort at the same time.

StreetsAhead · Mar 14, 2021

I don't think she "called him out" at all, just addressed him as the nation's leader.

cvxfreak · Mar 14, 2021

Being called out is to be openly criticized in an unambiguous, often inflammatory fashion.

This doesn't seem to be a case of "calling out."

thuway · Mar 14, 2021

OP title fail. Embarrassing.

deimosmasque · Mar 14, 2021

Not so much a calling out, more of a reminder of those who are still suffering.

Royalan · Mar 14, 2021

Aurongel said:
I didn't read that as rude or confrontational, sounds perfectly reasonable to demand that of a new president IMO.

I sorta agree.

I didn't read it as rude. But I definitely read it as confrontational. And that's the point.

Biden has been making a lot of good moves. And yeah, he deserves credit for that. But that doesn't mean activists and agitators shouldn't stay on his ass. They should. And if he really is the man for the moment, he'll stay the course and continue to deliver.

There's a lot more work to be done.

Teamocil · Mar 14, 2021

the liberals in this thread questioning the criticism of biden's administration/party instead of acknowledging the message and the lack of action from the dems smh.

biden wouldn't be in office without us black folks, we showed up for him so he needs to show up for us

Biske · Mar 14, 2021

StreetsAhead said:
I don't think she "called him out" at all, just addressed him as the nation's leader.

Yeah, he wasn't called out all. She called out to the president.

Royalan · Mar 14, 2021

Teamocil said:
the liberals in this thread questioning the criticism of biden's administration/party instead of acknowledging the message and the lack of action from the dems smh.

biden wouldn't be in office without us black folks, we showed up for him so he needs to show up for us

Please don't devolve this into another fucking "Liberal vs. Progressive" debate.

A conversation that's not defined by those parameters deserves to flourish here.

Mammoth Jones · Mar 14, 2021

Good. Nothing wrong with making the president aware that his administration still has an obligation to the people that put him in.

Too often they seem to forget people until it's election time. Then all of a sudden they come around bumming for votes with promises.

TheHunter · Mar 14, 2021

Teamocil said:
the liberals in this thread questioning the criticism of biden's administration/party instead of acknowledging the message and the lack of action from the dems smh.

biden wouldn't be in office without us black folks, we showed up for him so he needs to show up for us

?

Everyone seems reasonable in their takes. Like Royalan said its good to call to action and makes demands.

Teamocil · Mar 14, 2021

Royalan said:
Please don't devolve this into another fucking "Liberal vs. Progressive" debate.

A conversation that's not defined by those parameters deserves to flourish here.

replace it with dems, I don't give a fuck. fact still stands that the libs/dems/whatever are spending energy framing the question as "what is he supposed to do?" rather than "how can we push him to do more?"

you're spending too much time worried about a damn label

TheHunter said:
?

Everyone seems reasonable in their takes. Like Royalan said its good to call to action and makes demands.

see above

Slayven · Mar 14, 2021

"We don't need allies, we need accomplishes"

I am going to steal that

Mammoth Jones · Mar 14, 2021

Teamocil said:
replace it with dems, I don't give a fuck. fact still stands that the libs/dems/whatever are spending energy framing the question as "what is he supposed to do?" rather than "how can we push him to do more?"

you're spending too much time worried about a damn label

see above

Pwnz · Mar 14, 2021

If you blame Biden for the Senate and the filibuster and you don't show up next time I don't know what the fuck to tell ya other than how we narrowly avoided fascism but mkay you do you.

Asking for more is totally fine with that said.

Davilmar · Mar 14, 2021

I found the call out to be totally reasonable, and expected. However, voting rights has to be the next thing that appears. You can't so shit on any other reform if your basic voting rights arw eviscerated.

TheHunter · Mar 14, 2021

Davilmar said:
I found the call out to be totally reasonable, and expected. However, voting rights has to be the next thing that appears. You can't so shit on any other reform if your basic voting rights arw eviscerated.

They've been making a huge pus with HR1 so it looks good on that front.

Davilmar · Mar 14, 2021

TheHunter said:
They've been making a huge pus with HR1 so it looks good on that front.

Doesn't matter much until I see Biden signing it. And that my fear, and why urgency on voting rights matters above all else. You can't do police reform, college debt reform or any agency if voting rights are decimated. It's the foundation for everything we need to get done.

ZeoVGM · Mar 14, 2021

Armadilo said:
I'll try to, but if you see it I can add it in the future

Full performance!

TheHunter · Mar 14, 2021

Davilmar said:
Doesn't matter much until I see Biden signing it. And that my fear, and why urgency on voting rights matters above all else. You can't do police reform, college debt reform or any agency if voting rights are decimated. It's the foundation for everything we need to get done.

Don't disagree.

HR1 is a must pass along with the VRA 2.0, Equality act and Floyd bill.

geomon · Mar 14, 2021

Slayven said:
"We don't need allies, we need accomplishes"

I am going to steal that

If you're going to use that, can you at least change it to accomplishments? So that it's more grammatically correct?

Royalan · Mar 14, 2021

Teamocil said:
you're spending too much time worried about a damn label

I'm actually not, considering the number of contentious irl conversations I've had with so-called progressives over racial issues in preference of some economic priority or utopia.

If you think pressuring the President to continue in the path of the greater good falls on some sort of "liberal vs. progressive" fault line, then I don't know what to say other than I disagree. And I think constantly limiting discussion to that ultimately prohibitive framework does a disservice to the greater work that needs to be done.

Every faction of the Left should be making demands of this President.

Glasfrut · Mar 14, 2021

geomon said:
If you're going to use that, can you at least change it to accomplishments? So that it's more grammatically correct?

It's a play on accomplices, no? It has to be that way

mugurumakensei · Mar 14, 2021

Royalan said:
Every faction of the Left should be making demands of this President.

And also not forget to call on Congress since they make the laws

Royalan · Mar 14, 2021

mugurumakensei said:
And also not forget to call on Congress since they make the laws

You ain't wrong.

danm999 · Mar 14, 2021

I would say as a general rule of thumb Americans do not ask/demand anywhere near enough of any of their elected officials.

Presidents, Senators, Reps, Governors etc etc

Jom · Mar 14, 2021

AlteredBeast said:
Call out senators and reps... Like what more can Biden be doing?

Call out the 0 Republicans who voted to help people, even though many are touting the bill helping people...

Why would he waste time calling out and criticizing the people who couldn't care less about his criticism and aren't even trying to get the black vote?

Atom Heart Mother · Mar 15, 2021

Good shit to keep the pressure on Biden. If you feel weirded out by this and question "Why question Biden? What about the pandemic or other issues?" shows how little some care about police brutality and systemic racism. We should always be talking about this, no matter what's going on.

Teamocil said:
replace it with dems, I don't give a fuck. fact still stands that the libs/dems/whatever are spending energy framing the question as "what is he supposed to do?" rather than "how can we push him to do more?"

you're spending too much time worried about a damn label

see above

Agreed. Shit like this makes it feel like BLM was simply used by liberals because of the right's reaction to it. Reminder that BLM wasn't really nationally endorsed by Democrats until 2020.

Foffy · Mar 15, 2021

It's only a "callout" if he's failing. What's gotten worse under him that has yet to have a response? This seemed like a reminder to try and get something done before that familiar feeling of outrage and injustice sweeps over the country yet again.

Teamocil · Mar 15, 2021

Royalan said:
I'm actually not, considering the number of contentious irl conversations I've had with so-called progressives over racial issues in preference of some economic priority or utopia.

If you think pressuring the President to continue in the path of the greater good falls on some sort of "liberal vs. progressive" fault line, then I don't know what to say other than I disagree. And I think constantly limiting discussion to that ultimately prohibitive framework does a disservice to the greater work that needs to be done.

Every faction of the Left should be making demands of this President.

this is basically what I said in the post. I don't care about the label, just make sure biden actually does his fucking job and serves the people that put him in the office.

UltimateHigh · Mar 15, 2021

put the legislation in front of him and he'll sign it. and issue number one starts with HR1

theres only one party who exists to completely fuck you.

AlteredBeast · Mar 15, 2021

Jom said:
Why would he waste time calling out and criticizing the people who couldn't care less about his criticism and aren't even trying to get the black vote?

Didn't Trump make gains with both Black and Hispanic voters in 2020? There's disappointing (Dems) and evil (GOP). Lest people get the wrong idea and say, "Dems aren't doing 100% of what they said, guess I'll stay home next election."

onyx · Mar 15, 2021

Don't care if people think it's a callout or not , because pressure shouldn't let up too much just because Democrats won.

I agree that just pressuring Biden isn't enough. POTUS is a temp job compared to Congress. Pressure local and state officials on police reform too.

Loud Wrong · Mar 15, 2021

Not called out but called upon. In time he needs to act. Can't blame the focus being elsewhere atm though.

Sain · Mar 15, 2021

Change with our political system will never happen overnight. While I think it is important to keep Biden honest and accountable, the only way to see the change you want in the world is to consistently show up to the polls. Can't just take your ball and go home if you don't get everything you want in the first two years.

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