You mean like the marine corps?
You know what, that gives me an idea. Let's just call them Space Marines
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Pres. Biden day one executive orders: Rejoin Paris agreement, extend student loans pause, stop wall construction, reverse Muslim travel ban + more
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You know what, that gives me an idea. Let's just call them Space Marines
There was a lot of shit slinging during the primaries. I heard lots of talk of Biden basically being a repub and accomplishing nothing good cause he's more moderate. I assume most of this was because people really wanted Bernie to take the nomination instead.
I wasn't particularly excited by the Biden nomination (was always far, far better than trump tho ofc) , but listening to him over the last few months has definitely brought me around more and I'm optimistic to see some good change come through these next 4 years.
Good for you. I was for Biden and I know a lot of younger progressives were Burnie or Warren. At the point where America was, I would have voted for a camel.
I suspect the camel would've been less racist.
If he can do this from the get-go, great. I expect a bunch of other things during his presidency to extend far beyond just bringing us back pre-Trump. I think everyone should.
"Both sides" nonsense. Biden is not Trump, and we can all be very happy about that.
Great stuff in here.
As far as student debt cancellation, he doesn't have an Secretary of Education yet so he can't really cancel the debt through EO. It does seem fairly clear that he can do it through EO but rather have Congress do it.
As far as student debt cancellation, he doesn't have an Secretary of Education yet so he can't really cancel the debt through EO. It does seem fairly clear that he can do it through EO but rather have Congress do it.
Meh. The lack of mention of it means it is pretty much dead imo.
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During the primaries it 100% was.
The forum was sickening. Especially once mods came out and just flat out said that truth was secondary to the "cause" as with the Biden accusation.
Granted, Dems barely control congress. Like by the tiniest of margins. Guaranteed a shitload of stuff gets filibustered in the Senate and drag it down as long as they can.
He mentioned student debt like a few days ago. It's clear he wants to do debt forgiveness through legislation (paired with free tuition) and not through EO. EO forgiveness was really something that only gained headspace when people thought Republicans were going to control the senate and it was only floated by a few senators. That was never what Biden campaigned on and was never the ideal approach to tackle college education and student debt.
I feel like that is the same thing. That seems exactly like something that one of the moderates would object to because "the deficit".
If no EO then it is not happening. Obama couldn't do it with 60 senators. Joe isn't going to get it done with 50.
This isn't 2009. The overton window has shifted. We have people like Manchin excitedly talking about $4 trillion infrastructure spending.
He never quite had 60. He technically did after Franken was seated but one senator (Byrd) was hospitalized pretty much the entire time. Then Ted Kennedy died. Always hovering around 58/59.
If the Democrats are willing to nuke the filibuster, they can do it. Seems possible at the moment.
It was when people started to point out flaws in the story, which was quickly unraveling. Mods kept banning them and then doubled down on it.
They never once backed down from their position to this day.
Why? With payments on hold, isn't it just less of a priority in comparison to other economic/stimulus measures.
What? How?
Right now, the easiest thing is to continue to pause payments. Which expires in like 10 days. Now it will be extended through Sept 30th.
Larger forgiveness while can be done through EO, really needs to be done through legislation because you also need to reign in costs and develop new affordable programs in legislation. Otherwise, the bills will just continue to ramp up.
Some of yall need to chill, he can't do literally everything on day 1, especially when the rest of his cabinet isn't even there yet
Dems are gonna take care of the filibuster. Schumer ain't having none of the GOP's nonsense.
If Manchin comes out for getting rid of the filibuster then we can talk.
However, he has stated that his position is to keep the filibuster so I am not holding my breath.
Even then I don't think he votes for significant loan forgiveness.
Biden just needs to do the EO.
Those are some incredible moves for day 1. So glad to see the extension of the student loan deferral and interest pause. Federal student loans shouldn't have interest on them in the first place. I don't have student loans, but my wife does. The pause on the interest accruel there has been a huge help as it's allowed her to actually make a dent on her principle balance.
Yes.
Not sure he would have the authority to do anything on private loans.
No, he needs to pair it with free college tuition legislation, exactly what he campaigned on.
Manchin has been against wholesale removal of the Filibuster which I actually agree with since its purpose originally was to slow down passage of bills for constructive criticism and personal grievances with bills, it wasn't designed to be used as it has been the past 12+ years. They are simply going to vote on changing the rules of the filibuster to gut it in way that it might as well be considered removed. No one seems to "get" Manchins game, he won't be the reason things don't get passed, he will only claim that publicly because that is the kind of senator he is.
How? Are they planning on doing that via establishing new precedents or something? Because my understanding was formally removing the cloture rule would take 2/3'rds of the senate.
Yes. Pretty sure that private loans are always going to be perma-boned.
It would be cool if they could stream it.
Just signing a pile of papers undoing the entirety of Trump's pathetic presidency.
I'm fairly certain a simple majority is all that's needed to change/nuke the filibuster.
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"How would eliminating the filibuster actually work?
The most straightforward way to eliminate the filibuster would be to formally change the text of Senate Rule 22, the cloture rule that requires 60 votes to end debate on legislation. Here's the catch: Ending debate on a resolution to change the Senate's standing rules requires the support of two-thirds of the members present and voting. Absent a large, bipartisan Senate majority that favors curtailing the right to debate, a formal change in Rule 22 is extremely unlikely."
What is the Senate filibuster, and what would it take to eliminate it?
Molly Reynolds explains the history of the Senate filibuster and the possible, but politically unlikely, ways to reform or eliminate it.
www.brookings.edu
Is this not a good source or something?
You don't even have to remove the filibuster. You can nerf it with a simple majority to the point of it being useless.?
"How would eliminating the filibuster actually work?
The most straightforward way to eliminate the filibuster would be to formally change the text of Senate Rule 22, the cloture rule that requires 60 votes to end debate on legislation. Here's the catch: Ending debate on a resolution to change the Senate's standing rules requires the support of two-thirds of the members present and voting. Absent a large, bipartisan Senate majority that favors curtailing the right to debate, a formal change in Rule 22 is extremely unlikely."
What is the Senate filibuster, and what would it take to eliminate it?
Molly Reynolds explains the history of the Senate filibuster and the possible, but politically unlikely, ways to reform or eliminate it.
Is this not a good source or something?
Good start, but some of these need to be made into law/legislation. Otherwise when we get the next R president they can just undo it all again lol
The Supreme Court has affirmed that rules changes in the Senate require only a majority vote. And while you can, in theory, filibuster a rules change, the presiding officer has the right to over rule the parliamentarian at will and, in a vote to kill the filibuster, would have no reason not to since the filibuster is the parliamentary rule prohibiting the vote on killing it. You don't just do that all the time because you might as well be killing the filibuster the first time you use it for that purpose.?
"How would eliminating the filibuster actually work?
The most straightforward way to eliminate the filibuster would be to formally change the text of Senate Rule 22, the cloture rule that requires 60 votes to end debate on legislation. Here's the catch: Ending debate on a resolution to change the Senate's standing rules requires the support of two-thirds of the members present and voting. Absent a large, bipartisan Senate majority that favors curtailing the right to debate, a formal change in Rule 22 is extremely unlikely."
What is the Senate filibuster, and what would it take to eliminate it?
Molly Reynolds explains the history of the Senate filibuster and the possible, but politically unlikely, ways to reform or eliminate it.
Is this not a good source or something?