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Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - PS5 LEAK

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They just had a story/tech showreel and discussion meeting over Zoom, and my contact has shared everything the main "Speaker" discussed and what was shown. I made sure they took notes of the important bits. Plenty of story, too. It was about an hour long, so strap in. Here's what they had to say, with other details being added in after a phone call between us.

Cutscenes:

  • Game begins with fly-by through the city, showcasing winter environment, leading to an apartment. Peter is in his and MJ's apartment, they're video-calling. This scene elaborates on MJ's whereabouts, peace talks in Samkyria are concurrently happening as they speak, so she should be heading home in a few weeks after post-war interviews and headlines.
  • MJ asks Peter what's been going on in his life in New York, and Peter confesses that he's rejoined The Daily Bugle as a photographer to help pay the bills. MJ says that shouldn't be so bad, especially if they work together, but Peter webs over a newspaper from the kitchen counter. The headline is that JJJ has returned to his previous position in the company due to financial hardships (elaborated on in The City That Never Sleeps DLC). Speaker says that they "enjoyed the podcast take, but want to return to the roots".
  • MJ reacts negatively to this, telling Peter that she wasn't even informed. Peter apologizes for breaking the bad news. Peter's Spider-Sense goes off, but that's where it gets cut short for the meeting.
Mechanics: Winter Physics

  • Spider-Man on top of a building: Snow is accumulating on his suit. As you move, some falls off.
  • Peter walking through New York as himself. Snow is accumulating on his jacket. Footprints in the snow are present, both by the player as well as citizens walking around.
  • Three different weather types are shown: Light rain, Light snow, heavy snow.
  • Speaker says there are about 7 dynamic weather types in-game.
  • From what I have gathered, especially based on what my contact has said, the weather systems will come and go freely. Time passes without transitions, along with the weather, and all will be representative within cutscenes. Story apparently takes place over a longer period of time than the first, therefore there is more room for days to pass within gameplay. Speaker says that they tried to avoid writing in "This happens at night, or this happens during the day-" as much as possible. They did say that they could not get around it entirely, however. So expect to see certain and unexpected time-of-day shifts within the game.
  • Speaker also says that people are going to be playing in one instance for a long time, and that this was a good segue into the meat of the game.
Dynamic Missions:

  • Speaker really turned on the charm for this next one, and was pretty proud of what they had in store. Balloon missions is the first. Spider-Man grabs a balloon caught on a flagpole, a balloon flying away in the air, and a balloon that was caught in a helicopter. Yes, a helicopter. The landing gear, specifically. These are definitely a call-back to the Spider-Man 2 Movie-Tie-In game.
  • Construction workers hanging onto ledges and falling off of buildings, people needing to be brought to the hospital, as well as rescuing people from burning buildings are some examples shown.
  • Speaker says that "small missions like these help illustrate the "friendly-neighborhood" aspect of Spider-Man, and players will react positively to it, based on feedback". Speaker says there are a few more, but wanted to move on to the side-missions.
Side Missions:

  • A fight with Mysterio is shown, albiet very briefly, on the statue of liberty. Not sure if this was another reference to Spider-Man 2, but the fight looked very different from that game.
  • A few still images of a theatre and a clocktower were also shown, with Mysterio at the center of each.
  • This also confirms that the Statue of Liberty will be a traversable location, and we will probably see more than one appearance of Mysterio throughout the game.
  • Side missions are going to appear throughout the story and in greater number than the first game.
  • Some side missions contain major villains, and others help flesh out the world.
  • A side mission in Hell's Kitchen with a "certain lawyer" was teased. Daredevil will most likely make an appearance, if not at least mentioned.
  • Another side mission with a certain "Fantastic and Fiery" personality was also teased and will be used for new racing mechanics. If anyone predicted Human Torch races, congratulations.
Cutscenes:

  • An argument with Eddie Brock and JJJ occurs, with Peter stepping in. This is the first time we've seen JJJ and Eddie in-person, and they look fantastic. My contact described Eddie's design as "Spectacular Spider-Man-esque in nature", the cartoon show, for those who are aware of it. Big, bulky, and brash.
  • The cutscene ends just as Peter is about to say something.
  • Doctor Conners is mentioned within the scene.
Cutscenes:

  • Major one here. In an alleyway, a giant, squirming blob of symbiote lays on the ground as Spider-Man approaches it. This is definitely not Venom, but it is definitely a symbiote. My contact described it as a "Proto-Venom". Some specific dialogue taken from Peter, transcribed poorly by me - I'm sure Yuri knocked it out of the park, though.:
  • "How could Norman do this to you?"
  • "Harry- Harry, it's me. It's Peter. I'm here, buddy. I'm here."
  • "Oh God, Harry... "
  • "You... Killed those people."
  • "What the hell?! Get off- Get-"
  • That last one is crucial to the scene, as the symbiote leaves Harry and bonds with Peter. My contact says that they originally wanted Harry to be Venom, but felt like the introduction of Eddie Brock-Venom would make for a lengthier story and would also satisfy comic fans. They also want to save Harry for something special later down the line.
  • So from what I have gathered, within the context of the story, Harry is the first host of the Oscorp-created symbiote.
  • It is not alien in origin, and was used as a cure for Harry's disease.
  • Harry is ultimately cured by the time the symbiote leaves, so there is room for him in the future of the story, but at this point he is hospitalized after Peter stops his rampage.
  • Harry breaks free during Act 1 and goes on a manic-filled killing spree, and the scene just described wraps up the events, leading into Act 2.
Mechanics: Black Suit

  • A few still images of the classic black suit are shown, and everyone on Zoom clapped for it. Suffice to say, they wanted the black suit just as much as fans did, so they're doing something right here.
  • Speaker says that they wanted to add an extra step towards "tailoring every player's experience".
  • Spider-Man is on a roof, the weather and sky are clear so that light is reflecting off of the suit more. His classic suit is being worn.
  • Contact says that this was his favorite part of the showreel, and I'll admit, it's definitely mine too.
  • The black suit is switched on with a simple button press, then switched off again.
  • Speaker had this to say: "Taking major inspiration from Web of Shadows, we knew that the symbiote system in this game needed to be as fluid and fun as possible". So for anyone who predicted a Web of Shadows style system, you guessed correctly, and I'm glad you did.
  • "But that's not all we have to show you-", the speaker said. The suit selection screen is opened once more, and most of the suits are greyed out. However, the advanced suit and the webbed suit (raimi suit) are available.
  • The advanced suit is selected, and then the black suit is switched on. "Every suit has their own symbiote version-", the speaker said.
  • The webbed suit is then selected, and my contact said that it took him back to 2007, when Spider-Man 3 was released. It looked beautiful.
Mechanics: Black Suit Combat

  • My contact has said that they tried not to copy Web of Shadows in its entirety, but they did take inspiration from the combat system switching in that game. Arkham-Knight styled combat, similar to Spider-Man PS4, was shown. Precision, combos and key presses, and dodging are once again the focus when fighting without the symbiote suit.
  • However, when using the symbiote suit, certain elements are removed for more "fluid" combat. Combat is described as being more powerful, with faster attacks and much less dodging. Players zip from enemy to enemy, and can attack multiple enemies at once by using certain symbiote abilities.
  • The symbiote suit has its own separate skill tree that is unlocked after obtaining it.
  • The skill trees are slightly larger than in the previous game, but nothing to write home about. This shouldn't be a problem to players, however, as there are now two different skill trees to explore.
  • Not much was shown in terms of symbiote combat footage, though, as it's most likely still under development. Combat reworks and additions can take forever, especially with a new system being made.
Cutscenes:

  • A few cutscenes and clips are shown, stitched-together for the sake of time.
  • Peter (Under the influence of the symbiote.) and Miles arguing. The black suit then forms around Peter and he jumps off of a roof.
  • Miles stopping a robbery (His classic suit is shown here). Speaker also said during this that Miles also has equippable suits.
  • Miles swinging through low building traversal and running on rooftops.
  • Miles using the new "Web-Chain" mechanics, zipping between rooftops and ledges.
  • Miles section ends with him fighting a group, just before Peter tags in and the two fight together. You're able to switch between both for certain sections.
  • Norman Osborn in the lab where Harry escaped, he's tinkering with a few viles of unknown-materials. Presumably, Peter Parker's DNA.
  • Norman Osborn smashing a bunch of equipment, as well as throwing a table out of a window.
  • The showreel ended with a fade to black, accompanied by Norman's laughter.
Wrap-Up:

  • One last thing was shown. Three images for a wave of DLC - Presumably just like how there were 3 DLC's last time.
  • Morbius, Carnage, and Wraith. Seems like the theme of the DLC's are killers and redemption, depending on who Carnage is. My contact says they are leaning towards Peter Parker-Carnage, and you would play as Miles, but they are in the concept stage and have not fully decided on that yet.
  • They were originally planning on revealing it over the summer, but now due to the situation we are all facing, they are pushing it to late summer, August most likely, or potentially later, depending on how the situation develops. Release remains Holiday 2021.

Insomniac was on a Zoom call today, but that could have easily been factored into a fake leak before. Could be real, could be fake, take with a grain of salt of course.
 

VeePs

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Holy shit snow would be amazing and was one of biggest things I wanted in the sequel!

Please give us this outfit:

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Platy

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these all sounds like someone is making stuff up as they go, not that they actually remember everything
 

PS9

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Holiday 2021. Hopefully this means Horizon 2 is a 2020 or early 2021 game. If the leak is real of course.
 

sredgrin

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I can't see them bothering to toss off Carnage as a DLC if they're leaning so heavy into the black suit and venom stuff.

Also, presumably you don't have the symbiote for the entire game (beginning and likely last quarter) so it seems like doing a bunch of costumes and a skill tree for it seems like a lot of work for something that'll get blocked off eventually.
 

AllChan7

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All this sounds like what I'd expect out of a sequel more or less. If this is fake, he definitely spent a lot of time on it lol

Regardless, I fully expect the black suit in the next game along with some version of Venom. And an updated combat system and definitely more intriguing missions and side quests.
 

Desma

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I remember a character cosplaying as Mysterio on the first game, so I immediately though Spidey had already fought him before?
 

VeePs

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Should've gone the SM 2099 route.

Spider-Man in a SciFi setting would have made for a great game ~


Maybe after Spider-man 3, if the game is starting to feel stale, then go SM 2099.

Until then I'd rather see a direct sequel. They can build and improve on a lot.
 

Brucey

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Dunno if any of that is true. But I really want that Peter walks through the streets of the city to happen. Only being able to explore the lab and the shelter was a bit limiting. I want a bit more slice of life normal Peter gameplay/story this time around. I know some folks hate that stuff but I love those small little moments.
 

Alienous

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No, I don't think so.

There's a ton of Spider-Man fan references in there. 'This is like Spectacular Spider-Man', 'This is like the boss battle in Spider-Man 2', 'This was inspired by Web of Shadows'. Sounds like a wishlist.

It's also a lot to show in a video call with someone who would have to be trusted, but was willing to detail everything that occurred, but I guess not press PrtScn and share images with the person they're leaking it to (who instead has to describe how things looked as a second-hand account).
 

DragonSJG

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Oh my god, this sounds amazing Hope it is legit Mysterio, black suit, Eddie brock, playable Miles
Every suit with own symbiote version....nice
 

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All this sounds like what I'd expect out of a sequel more or less. If this is fake, he definitely spent a lot of time on it lol

Biggest thing that makes me think its fake is no talk of the SSD and what it allows them to do with this game. Cerny definitely talked to first party devs, including Insomniac, about it. I would think they would mention the SSD when talking about new tech for the game.

Oh well, hopefully its real.
 

VanDoughnut

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Snow Spidey?

Didn't even think about it: good angle to market how different the sequel is.

NY will look great in the snow won't it?
 

Xeonidus

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I'll be wary but it sounds great. Especially the fact that each costume has a symbiote form. I'm glad Brock is in. Harry as Venom is an interesting idea but hardcore fans may reject it. I hope they do go with the Parker Carnage route though. Lots of room for emotional beats if Miles has to face his friend and mentor. Seems like a big game too with many story beats. Mysterio, Venom, Carnage, possibly Green Goblin?

Awesome if Daredevil and Fantastic 4 were in it to continue building the universe. I really hope it is 2021 but we will see. Is 3 years enough?
 

AllChan7

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Biggest thing that makes me think its fake is no talk of the SSD and what it allows them to do with this game. Cerny definitely talked to first party devs, including Insomniac, about it. I would think they would mention the SSD when talking about new tech for the game.

Oh well, hopefully its real.

Yea. Assuming it is real, maybe they were just discussing some of the scenes and mission structure rather than the tech behind it. Would be nice to have more dynamic missions to spice things up. Given how insane that final boss fight in Spiderman looked in terms of visuals, I'm drooling over the possibilities for boss fights on PS5.
 

shadowman16

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Reads like bad fanfiction. I doubt there's really any shred of truth to this, aside from piggy backing on plot points set up in the first game and DLC. Well, I see Mysterio getting included either way as well. Just because he'd be fantastic visually and as a level design/boss fight mechanic.
 
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I hope the rumors of a PS5 R&C are true, Insomniac would be hitting out of the park if they can get each 1 year apart.

This leak sounds reasonable and fun. Holiday 2021 is going to be big for PS5 with this. I assume Horizon 2 will happen sometime in 2021, and could see a GT or another game in 21
 

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Does it say Harry is Venom or just has the symbiote?

  • That last one is crucial to the scene, as the symbiote leaves Harry and bonds with Peter. My contact says that they originally wanted Harry to be Venom, but felt like the introduction of Eddie Brock-Venom would make for a lengthier story and would also satisfy comic fans. They also want to save Harry for something special later down the line.
 

ze_

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why would they detail so much information, essentially all of their marketing material to be shared over 1-2 years, or the entire game project plan including dlc, in one random zoom call

who is even on the receiving end of this? they sequence the call like it's an insomniac direct
 

PhantomArtifice

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Let's be real - I highly doubt they would be talking about this much of the game in a Zoom meeting. This is a massive amount of information, I don't see it. Fun read but yeah I don't believe this for a second.
 

PLASTICA-MAN

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How many times supposed "details of Spider-man 2" are leaked? First we got a leak with both Venom and Sandman and that those are brought to shwo the PS5 capabilities of showing blobby physics and dust and grain.
Now it's Mysterio and proto- Venom and.. Cutscenes as the biggest enemy and final boss of the game.

Th writers have a lot of imagination. Doesn't mean it's great.
 

henhowc

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Why wouldn't they just record the zoom call with their cell phone and leak that.

Taking notes lmao. No way you not confirming whose in the meeting and locking it if it's that small.
 
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Paquete_PT

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A zoom meeting with 6 people and it gets leaked? I doubt this is real and feels like too much information for a game at that stage of development.
 

shadowman16

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I remember a character cosplaying as Mysterio on the first game, so I immediately though Spidey had already fought him before?
The collectables you get through the game detail that he's fought Mysterio before (you find a bit of his fish bowl). He's also fought Lizard, Sandman etc. The collectables were actually an interesting way of fleshing the game worlds backstory in this sense.
 

Rodney McKay

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Ugh, makes me wish I could find my Spiderman disc and keep playing it.

No clue what I did with it, I think it ended up in a random Bluray box instead of the game box like it should have.

Leak is probably fake, but I would love a winter setting for some if not all of the game. Could REALLY show off the next-gen power with some great snow effect and raytracing lighting up the snow.
 

s0l0kill

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Fake as all hell, what zoom call will go over the entire game features and missions etc etc? whoever wrote this never worked a day in his life that isn't in McDonalds.