Dice purposely toned down the destruction because maps in BC2 were devolving into open fields. Way easier to balance a map where certain landmarks will always be there.
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Dice purposely toned down the destruction because maps in BC2 were devolving into open fields. Way easier to balance a map where certain landmarks will always be there.
I can understand that but having the ending of matches being a terrifying hellscape, barren of cover, made everything feel so much better. Maybe they will just add more of the building stuff from BFV into the new one.
BC 2 is game designed around Rush, CQ plays very badly on those maps because how maps are designed with chokepoints in mind.
I think people have nostalgia glasses on with BC 2. It was chaotic fun, but man even back then stuff like destruction got more jarring than fun as game got older. Having no cover and elevation through buildings got so old.
It was "better" only if you were in tank or attack helo, farming super easy KDR from coverless fields. Basically BFV bombers before their time.
There was a reason DICE didnt go back to the full scale destruction of BC2. Maps in late match were almost unplayable due to the lack of cover because everything was destroyed.
I remember Oasis from BC1 and BC2 where in Rush the first few objective locations were just flat without a single piece of cover after a few minutes.
This. put more small cover around the maps. let everything else be dynamic
Correct me if I'm entirely wrong about this, in the press and features leading up to the BC2 release, didn't they say you could basically drill a hole in a wall and shoot through the small hole at someone inside? Am I imagining this?
On certain maps you could just use RPG's and tanks to snipe MCOM's from cover of attacker spawn, defender couldn't do anything to stop it.
Good times.
I think BFV starts to be there. Destruction is far more dynamic then back in BC2 days, but you can still render most of buildings worthless for cover while there is some hard cover in all maps that is always viable.
Man watching these gifs makes me so nostalgic.We're back, baby!
Then I get sad because pulling off Renezooks is probably going to be impossible in BF6 because animations will get in the way of everything :(
small cover scattered around wont make tanks camping on hills and sniping across the map any better.
BF4 also had some very bad maps when it comes to balancing. Golmud Railway was a nightmare for infantry because most of the map was flat fields with a few rocks which didnt protect you from Tanks, Choppers or any other type of armed vehicles.
They probably thought making vehicle focussed maps and seperate infantrey focussed maps like Flood Zone. But there still needs to be some kind of balance.
Especially since most servers had fast vehicle spanws and you had over half of the team being in a vehicle.
Destruction lovers should seriously give Rainbow Six: Siege a try. Totally different type of game than Battlefield, but it really delivers on the emergent destruction gameplay that people often fantasize about. Half of the gameplay is knowing the maps and using the dynamic destruction to your advantage.
Individual bullet holes let you see through walls, and you can do things like blowing up the floor from below to kill people above you.
Individual bullet holes let you see through walls, and you can do things like blowing up the floor from below to kill people above you.
Well, you can build in BFV so they can probably work with that.
Doesnt look that futuristic for me. Everything on these screens is current weaponary/tech.
I think the rumours are 10-20 years into the future.
So not skynet futuristic
Sandstorm fights in BF4 and BF1 were loads of fun. I'm hoping we get a lot more weather related disturbances in the game
Eh looks 15-20 years out
Those Osprey have jet engines and not the current propeller type
Its 10 to 20 years out story wise, not much would have changed in terms of military tech.
Most likely the screens are bad quality because on other leaked screens it has a propeller
Edit:
see here: https://old.reddit.com/r/Battlefiel...er_removed_foul_frames_and_upscaled_to_1080p/
They are authentic ospreys with propeller
define futuristic. using the same tec available today ( in a more adopted way) isnt that futuristic to me personally.
There definitely isn't propellers on that Osprey.
see here: https://old.reddit.com/r/Battlefiel...er_removed_foul_frames_and_upscaled_to_1080p/
there are propellers. dont know why this one doesnt have one. like I said, maybe bad screen capture
Same here. I said at the time I was sceptical about them dropping it and still releasing the same amount of maps and those fears proved true.
People always block this out when being nostalgic about BC2.
Here's your rose tinted goggles, the only cover you'll have once the helicopter that's almost impossible to shoot down gets in the air, until you get sniped by the one hit sniper, unless you have the juggernaut perk, which might be canceled out by their damage perk.
GOOD TIMES
If it was bad quality screen we still could tell propellers from artifacting.
I think....
1) Internal video is legit old and new design is jet engine based
OR
2) Bug causes them no to render at all
OP
OP
That trailer was for internal use only and we have no idea how old it is. It's very likely things have changed.
Usually it means modern tech but with some more experimental military stuff thrown in. Still grounded in reality but with some more weird stuff, just short of laser guns.
I would go with 2).
Seeing that the other vehicles are all rather authentic to their real life counterparts I dont think they would change it to jet engines. imo wouldnt fit. but thats just my opinion
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It's modern? Oh hell yeah.
BF3 one of my all time favorite multiplayer experiences.
Riding shotgun in a heli with a crazy good pilot, getting shot at from rooftops, ducking under bridges, watching various skirmishes happening across the map… remembering that it was all human players, no AI.
SO ready for more of that. Bring back Caspian Border!
BF3 one of my all time favorite multiplayer experiences.
Riding shotgun in a heli with a crazy good pilot, getting shot at from rooftops, ducking under bridges, watching various skirmishes happening across the map… remembering that it was all human players, no AI.
SO ready for more of that. Bring back Caspian Border!
I agree with this. Not to mention sometimes you need an open battlefield for some of the larger tank and plane matches. Otherwise you end up with infantry being butchered in a narrow bottleneck by a handful of excellent pilots who dominate the skies. We saw this in both 1 and 5 becoming an overwhleming issue on some maps until tweaked appropriately. Not to mention modern tanks and vehicles are fast, and you need some open space to give that illusion of speed.
In the same boat.
Will take anything at this stage.
It looks remarkably like Battlefield 4.
If you ever actually attended a Battlefield alpha test then you should know what that entails. Because a ton of people have and can tell the SS's look very "alpha".
BF6 is going for a realistic 10 to 20 years in the future setting. in that setting, the military doesnt suddenly have laser rifles and weird looking aircraft and hovercars. A futuristic military setting is always going to be way less advanced then what you might think
Its gonna use bleeding edge tech from current day but then have it way more adopted as you mentioned.
BF6 was never confirmed to have a sci fi futuristic setting.
Im looking forward to this game more than any other this year. With every DICE studio behind it we should be in for an amazing ride. Im gonna allow myself to be hopeful that EA delivers.