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CenturionNami

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Nov 2, 2017
5,230
The situation is developing but alot of people have discovered disgusting content within the mod over the week (such as heavily sexualizing a 17 year slave character who has the mind of a child). Apparently people (mainly from 4chan) discovered today one of the lead mod's had drawn furry kiddie porn , and as a result is being ripped apart by the entire Fallout community.

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Fallout - The Frontier

Fallout: The Frontier is a gigantic DLC/New Game. As the “Courier” you start a new adventure centered around a conflict between the NCR and the Legion in the snow blasted remains of Portland Orego

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Gabriel Hall

Member
Oct 27, 2017
514
Initially intrigued by the mod, but when people in the "Why women criticize sexualized designs" thread found out about the 17 year old girl, I nope'd out instantly. But holy crap, I did not think the author could get more reprehensible.
 

Starlatine

533.489 paid youtubers cant be wrong
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Oct 28, 2017
30,442
why is everyone on the internet so horrible

another one to scratch from the list then
 

Max|Payne

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,980
Portugal
Man, what the fuck. I was thinking of checking it out but now not so much. What is wrong with these people, jesus christ...
 

L Thammy

Spacenoid
Member
Oct 25, 2017
50,054
I'm a little confused between the "popular" and "recently discovered" parts. Was this mod pretty recent so that it was inevitably run into when people spent enough time with it, or this content buried so that it took effort to find this content?
 
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CenturionNami

CenturionNami

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Nov 2, 2017
5,230
I'm a little confused between the "popular" and "recently discovered" parts. Was this mod pretty recent, or this content buried so that it took effort to find this content?
The mod is very popular (been hyped for 7 years) but it released a week ago, and the disgusting parts of it hadn't been discovered till recently.
 

skullmuffins

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,426
I'm a little confused between the "popular" and "recently discovered" parts. Was this mod pretty recent so that it was inevitably run into when people spent enough time with it, or this content buried so that it took effort to find this content?
it's a full-game sized mod that just came out like 2 weeks ago
 

StereoVSN

Member
Nov 1, 2017
13,620
Eastern US
And here I was preparing to play the thing, even setup a fresh install of New Vegas.

Sigh... Shouldn't be surprised anymore really, but kind of still am. :(
 

Massicot

RPG Site
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
2,232
United States
Man, I feel like shit for even having tweeted about this a few times now. I was kinda lukewarm on a lot of stuff about it anyway and now I have very little motivation to go back to it. At least one of the other dev team members has already disassociated themselves with the project.

Edit: Two devs. Won't be surprised if it's dead.
 
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Amauri14

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,696
Danbury, CT, USA
The mod is very popular (been hyped for 7 years) but it released a week ago, and the disgusting parts of it hadn't been discovered till recently.
You mentioned that it was discovered within the mod, but the image you have in the OP mentions that it was on the modder that had posted content inside their personal artist account. So does that means that there have been at least two instances of the modder sharing this kind of content?
 

Semfry

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,957
It's kind of mentioned in the OP, but the mod itself has weird shit like a bunch of lizard people you can have sex with and a character you can make into some sort of dependant slave (though they aren't 17, they apparently come with a letter telling you it was recently their 18th birthday so it's okay!).

You also can't join the Enclave because they're facists, which isn't a problem in itself, and there's blatantly a bunch of gamers(tm) who are just mad they can't help Nazis, but then there's a fully fleshed out Legion story (a faction who's also facist and probably worse than the Enclave in many ways) on top of the weird sex slave shit, so drawing a moral line there doesn't make much sense. The most generous interpretation is that it's a sign that writing was by many different people without enough put into making it feel like a single vision in the end.
 

GlowingBovine

Prophet of Truth
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Nov 27, 2017
790
Jesus christ, how many people worked on this mod? Did none of them know?

Damn, I was looking forward to trying this mod.

Gamers continue to be trash.
 

styl_oh

Fallen One-Winged Chicken Chaser
Member
Nov 24, 2019
2,208
Alberta, Canada
I think you could feasibly include morally reprehensible stories in a game if it were well written (which... I wouldn't trust most modders nor developers... nor writers period to do*), and insane gross shit like lizard sex in a world like Fallout, but the IRL stuff... nope

*on the the other hand 'underaged mind-controlled sex slave' sounds like a misogynistic b-list 1940s fantasy paperback and a well-written story probably would not be based on that premise
 

Phellps

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Oct 25, 2017
10,811
Gross. Absolutely gross. So did they report this fucker to the police? Because just removing him from the team isn't enough.
 

Dakkon

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Oct 27, 2017
4,200
I think you could feasibly include morally reprehensible stories in a game if it were well written (which... I wouldn't trust most modders nor developers... nor writers period to do*), and insane gross shit like lizard sex in a world like Fallout, but the IRL stuff... nope

I mean, yeah, I don't think there should be any major qualms about morally reprehensible stuff in a Fallout: New Vegas mod considering the base game let's you be a cannibal and literally has a quest line where you can help protect a guy who straight up ate someone, or let's you support a faction that actively keeps tons of slaves, or some of the hugely questionable Vaults in the canon (...Vaults themselves, really) etc. Fallout is pretty much filled to the brim with morally reprehensible stuff all around since it's the post-apocalypse and society has teetered on the edge of oblivion.

The biggest problem here is definitely the real life stuff.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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Dare I ask why the guy thought it'd be a good idea to put this garbage in his game?

With the stuff 4chan was able to dig up, did he think he would get away with it?


I mean, yeah, I don't think there should be any major qualms about morally reprehensible stuff in a Fallout: New Vegas mod considering the base game let's you be a cannibal and literally has a quest line where you can help protect a guy who straight up ate someone, or let's you support a faction that actively keeps tons of slaves, or some of the hugely questionable Vaults in the canon (...Vaults themselves, really) etc. Fallout is pretty much filled to the brim with morally reprehensible stuff all around since it's the post-apocalypse and society has teetered on the edge of oblivion.

The biggest problem here is definitely the real life stuff.

The thing about reprehensible and offensive content is that you pretty much have to make it obvious to the audience that you are aware of the implications.

Just from what I can read about this situation, it seems pretty clearly intended to be titillating.
 
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CenturionNami

CenturionNami

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Nov 2, 2017
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Apparently half the mod team is leaving the project, It's finished.
 

Metroidvania

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Oct 25, 2017
6,775
Fallout's always had a 'sex' element (that is kinda laughable considering how either uninvolved it is to the plot, and/or how uninvolved it is due to gamebryo animation/graphical jank), but how on earth would A)anyone think this would be okay/cool/desired in the game, and/or B)how this wasn't discovered during playtesting by the internal team.

I know there were people talking about the lizard/snake people sex vault being worth a BIG side-eye, but something seems fishy with this 17 year old shit.
 

Van Bur3n

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
26,089
Yikes. Seven years of work and this is how things conclude. Y'all had a pedo in your midst the whole time.
 

Foffy

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
16,395
Dare I ask why it wasn't removed when they found a child sex slave in the mod content?

I imagine if people are doing different parts to this, it didn't add up until it all finalized into whatever the fuck this slave character stuff is. I can see a bunch of hobbyists not noticing this if they work on something like this over the weekends. "Slave character. Character with an undeveloped brain. Sex stuff." I can see how people involved could have seen these as three different threads for characters, and there's probably three characters in the game that meet each trope in full, so I will at least give them the fair doubt that they wouldn't begin to assume that all of that would begin to merge into one character. If people are doing parts of the character in a set of tasks that include lots of other characters, I can see how dialog or model making didn't add up to what the combination would be.

I bet testers didn't find this right away because of the scope of a free modded project like this, people aren't going to do completionist test runs, especially in a Bethesda engine. It makes sense this is only discovered when it public hands. I'm amazed of the sheer audacity for even fucking trying to get away with this.

Absolutely vile, and this action alone tainted an entire project and a team. Very sorry for those who are caught with this stain aside from the one who really tried to get this in the game.
 

texhnolyze

Member
Oct 25, 2017
23,190
Indonesia
I have no words.

That's what you get from having a team of people who you barely know and never met before, I guess. It's such a great mod, a great Fallout game, even. What a fall from grace.
 

ThatOneGuy831

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
1,339
Wow, good thing I haven't downloaded this dumpster fire of a mod. All the things that have come out over the past week since its release has really soured me on the entire thing, but this is a whole other level of shit