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Polyphony Digital made 2 full scale Gran Turismo games and GT Prologue last gen but GT Sport will be their only game for current gen
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GT Sport is a full scale GT and with the amount of updates it essentially made another game, and was all free, instead of charging you for another game
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There's some things you have to consider:
- GTS was effectively a reboot of the series and the new standard of quality. GT5 and GT6 reused a looooot of content from previous games, like straight up using PS2 models.
- GT6 was released after the PS4 launched. Assuming that GT7 is really going to launch alongside or close to the PS5, it'd be essentially the same thing.
- And the obvious, a new generation requieres more time to develop.
Only getting Gran Turismo Sport isn't really that surprising. If they so wanted, they probably could've made a GT7 and a GT8 doing the same thing as before, simply porting the assets without giving a shit about quality content.
- GTS was effectively a reboot of the series and the new standard of quality. GT5 and GT6 reused a looooot of content from previous games, like straight up using PS2 models.
- GT6 was released after the PS4 launched. Assuming that GT7 is really going to launch alongside or close to the PS5, it'd be essentially the same thing.
- And the obvious, a new generation requieres more time to develop.
Only getting Gran Turismo Sport isn't really that surprising. If they so wanted, they probably could've made a GT7 and a GT8 doing the same thing as before, simply porting the assets without giving a shit about quality content.
There were 3 of these threads last generation and this week alone there have been 4.
What impact do you guys think the next generation will have on the post frequency of threads like these?
Frankly, I'm concerned.
*lazy poster rhetoric intensifies*
What impact do you guys think the next generation will have on the post frequency of threads like these?
Frankly, I'm concerned.
*lazy poster rhetoric intensifies*
Games as a service. Instead of making another game, they are constantly updating the one (GT Sport) game.
Ding ding ding!
The notion that GTS isn't a full scale GT game is absurd too. It just isn't the same style of experience. It's a more online-focused game.
All Sony studios are releasing less games except Sony San Diego which makes MLB yearly. PD does seem to deliver less for how long they take to make games, but the last mainline GT could easily have been a PS5 launch game and that would have made 2.
I would love to see Polyphony bust out as many games as Non-Horizon Forza with a break here and there.
Too early? GT6 came out after PS4. And PS5 comes out next year. So there is still a chance GT7 will arrive this gen!
Seriously though, yeah this is the disappointment of the generation for me. And the closure of Evolution Studios. PS4 is great at many things but for racing it really dropped the ball.
Seriously though, yeah this is the disappointment of the generation for me. And the closure of Evolution Studios. PS4 is great at many things but for racing it really dropped the ball.
I fully expect that there's only going ot be one GT next-gen also. Unless they decide to do some spinoff. What's the point of making new entries in a racing game if it's largely just going to be the same game with more content? You can just keep building off the first release. That's what they've done with GTS. Save up for the next big evolution with the next console.
Is this type of thread the new "sure is looking good" meme around here?
The answer is the same as the previous threads - more polished game, more detailed assets, longer development time, longer support - etc, etc. There's no reason to develop a GT Sport 2 if they can keep improving and updating the current one. It's also a reason to keep your PS+ subscription active since the main thing about GTS are the online features.
The answer is the same as the previous threads - more polished game, more detailed assets, longer development time, longer support - etc, etc. There's no reason to develop a GT Sport 2 if they can keep improving and updating the current one. It's also a reason to keep your PS+ subscription active since the main thing about GTS are the online features.
They took some shortcuts with GT5/6 in the car modelling department. Did you forget the whole standard cars debacle?
I'll take more development time in GT Sport if it means less "standard cars" lol. The cars in GT Sport are probably the most detailed in gaming and partly why PD takes so long in developing their game this gen.
Compare those standard cars to the photorealistic works of art we get in GT Sport and it starts to sort of make sense why PD is so slow....
Modern day game development also makes less reason for them to release a new GT game this gen when they can keep updating GT Sport with more features.
I'll take more development time in GT Sport if it means less "standard cars" lol. The cars in GT Sport are probably the most detailed in gaming and partly why PD takes so long in developing their game this gen.
Compare those standard cars to the photorealistic works of art we get in GT Sport and it starts to sort of make sense why PD is so slow....
Modern day game development also makes less reason for them to release a new GT game this gen when they can keep updating GT Sport with more features.
GT5/6 were embarrassments to be honest.
GT Sport is way better than both of them. They returned to perfectionism they were always known for.
GT Sport is way better than both of them. They returned to perfectionism they were always known for.
Yeah, OP left out the fact that GT6 launched after the PS4 had already released. I sure as hell don't want that situation again and have GT7 be held back by PS4 specs and launches a week after the PS5 comes out.
Plus, Polyphony tries to do everything in-house, and with the amount of detail they're able to put in now it's obviously going to lengthen dev time.
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On top of that, GTSport has had almost monthly updates since release. There's been continuous free cars/track content for 2 years and still ongoing instead of saving all of that up for another PS4 GT.
Currently here's a list of all the post launch DLC content in terms of cars and tracks.
DLC Tracks
Plus, Polyphony tries to do everything in-house, and with the amount of detail they're able to put in now it's obviously going to lengthen dev time.
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On top of that, GTSport has had almost monthly updates since release. There's been continuous free cars/track content for 2 years and still ongoing instead of saving all of that up for another PS4 GT.
Currently here's a list of all the post launch DLC content in terms of cars and tracks.
DLC Tracks
- Kyoto Driving Park Yamigawa + Miyabi
- Autodrome Lago Maggiore - Center
- Autodrome Lago Maggiore - East
- Autodrome Lago Maggiore - West
- Autodromo Nazionale Monza
- Autodromo Nazionale Monza (No Chicane)
- Blue Moon Bay Speedway - Infield A
- Blue Moon Bay Speedway - Infield B
- Tsukuba Circuit
- Dragon Trail - Gardens
- Circuit de la Sarthe
- Circuit de la Sarthe - No Chicane
- Circuit de Sainte-Croix - A
- Circuit de Sainte-Croix - B
- Circuit de Sainte-Croix - C
- Red Bull Ring
- Red Bull Ring Short Track
- Fuji Speedway F
- Fuji Speedway GT
- Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya Grand Prix Layout
- Tokyo Expressway - South Inner Loop
- Tokyo Expressway - South Outer Loop
- Special Stage Route X
- Autopolis International Racing Course
- Autopolis International Racing Course - Shortcut Course
- Goodwood Motor Circuit
- Sardegna - Road Track - A
- Sardegna - Road Track - B
- Sardegna - Road Track - C
- Circuit de Spa-Francorchamp
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- IsoRivolta Zagato Vision Gran Turismo
- Shelby Cobra 427 '66
- Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Convertible (C3) '69
- Chris Holstrom Concepts 1967 Chevy Nova (SEMA Gran Turismo Awards 2013)
- Enzo Ferrari '02
- Ferrari F40 '92
- Ford F-150 SVT Raptor '11
- KTM X-BOW R '12
- Lamborghini Countach LP400 '74
- Mazda RX-7 Spirit R Type A (FD) '02
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- Dodge Viper GTS '02
- Ferrari 330 P4 Race Car '67
- Ferrari 512BB '76
- Ford GT '06
- Jaguar XJ13 Race Car '66
- Lamborghini Diablo GT '00
- McLaren F1 '94
- Toyota 2000GT '67
- Toyota FT-1
- Toyota SUPRA RZ '97
- Alpine A110 1600S '72
- Alpine A110 Première Édition '17
- Audi R8 4.2 FSI R tronic '07
- De Tomaso Pantera '71
- Dodge Challenger R/T '70
- Ford Mustang Mach 1 '71
- Gran Turismo F1500T-A
- Lamborghini Aventador LP700-4 '11
- Subaru WRX STi Isle of Man Time Attack Car '16
- Subaru Falken Tires/Turn 14 Distribution BRZ '17
- Toyota SUPRA 3.0GT Turbo A '88
- Toyota MR2 GT-S '97
- Aston Martin DB11 '16
- BMW M3 Sport Evolution '89
- Ford GT40 Mark I '66
- Eckerts Rod & Custom Mach Forty
- Red Bull X2014 Junior
- Red Bull X2014 Standard Car
- Honda RAYBRIG NSX CONCEPT-GT '16
- Lexus au TOM'S RC F '16
- Lexus RC F GT3 (Emil Frey Racing) '17
- Mazda RX-7 GT-X (FC) '90
- Nissan GT-R NISMO '17
- Nissan MOTUL AUTECH GT-R '16
- Nissan SKYLINE GT-R V • spec (R33) '97
- Audi e-tron Vision Gran Turismo
- Audi Vision Gran Turismo
- Toyota GR Supra Racing Concept '18
- Fiat 500 F '68
- Jaguar XJR-9 LM Race Car '88
- Lamborghini Miura P400 Bertone Prototype CN0706 '67
- Mercedes-Benz Sauber Mercedes C9 Race Car '89
- Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IV GSR '96
- Nissan R92CP Race Car '92
- Renault Sport Mégane Trophy '11
- Renault Sport Clio R.S. 220 EDC Trophy '16
- Subaru BRZ S '15
- Daihatsu Copen Active Top '02
- Ferrari 250 GTO CN.3729GT '62
- Ford GT LM Spec II Test Car
- Honda BEAT '91
- Honda S660 '15
- Mazda 787B Race Car '91
- Mercedes AMG F1 W08 EQ Power+ 2017
- Mercedes AMG F1 W08 EQ Power+ (Color Variation) 2017
- Abarth 500 '09
- Abarth 1500 Biposto Bertone B.A.T 1 '52
- Amuse S2000 GT1 Turbo
- Ford Mark IV Race Car '67
- Lancia DELTA HF Integrale Evoluzione '91
- Mini-Cooper 'S' '65
- Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe '64
- Volkswagen 1200 '66
- Alfa Romeo GIULIA TZ2 carrozzata da ZAGATO '65
- BMW M3 GT (BMW Motorsport) '11
- Dodge Viper SRT-10 Coupe '06
- Honda NSX Type R '92
- Mazda RX500 '70
- Nissan Fairlady Z 300ZX TwinTurbo 2seater (Z32) '89
- Plymouth XNR Ghia Roadster '60
- Porsche 911 GT3 (996) '01
- Porsche 911 GT3 (997) '09
- Ferrari GTO '84
- Honda EPSON NSX (SUPER GT) '08
- Jaguar E-TYPE Coupe '61
- Lexus PETRONAS TOM'S SC430 (SUPER GT) '08
- Maserati GranTurismo S '08
- MINI COOPER S '05
- Nissan XANAVI NISMO GT-R (SUPER GT) '08
- Pagani Zonda R '09
- Subaru IMPREZA Premium Sport Coupe 22B-STi Version '98
- BMW M3 Coupé '07
- Chevrolet Corvette Sting Ray Sport Coupe (C2) '63
- Ferrari F50 '95
- GReddy Fugu Z
- McLaren P1 GTR '16
- Pontiac Firebird Trans Am '78
- Tesla Motors Model S Signature Performance '12
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- BMW Z8 '01
- Ferrari Dino 246 GT '71
- Honda INTEGRA TYPE R (DC2) '98
- Nissan Fairlady Z Version S (Z33) '07
- Porsche 356 A/1500 GS GT Carrera Speedster '56
- Shelby GT350 '65
- TVR Tuscan Speed 6 '00
- Mazda Eunos Roadster (NA Special Package) '89
- McLaren F1 GTR - BMW (Kokusai Kaihatsu UK Racing) '95
- Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren '09
- Pagani Huayra '13
- Toyota GR Supra RZ '19
- Dallara SF19 Super Formula / Honda '19
- Dallara SF19 Super Formula / Toyota '19
- Ferrari 250 GT Berlinetta passo corto CN.2521 '61
- Lamborghini Countach 25th Anniversary '88
- Lancia STRATOS '73
- Audi TT Coupe 3.2 quattro '03
- Honda Fit Hybrid '14
- Porsche 962 C '88
- Renault R8 Gordini '66
- Toyota Sprinter Trueno 3door 1600GT APEX (AE86) '83
- Chevrolet Camaro Z28 302 '69
- Clio Renault Sport V6 24V '00
- Red Bull X2019 Competition
- Toyota Sports 800 '65
- Toyota Tundra TRD Pro '19
- Honda CIVIC TYPE R (EK) '98
- Honda S800 '66
- Jaguar D-type '54
- Mazda Roadster Touring Car
- Porsche 911 Turbo (930) '81
- Honda S2000 '99
- Mitsubishi GTO Twin Turbo '91
- Nissan SILVIA K's Dia Selection (S13) '90
- Subaru IMPREZA Coupe WRX typeR STi Version VI '99
- Toyota Corolla Levin 3door 1600GT APEX (AE86) '83
- Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 1LE Package '18
- Chevrolet Corvette StingRay Racer Concept '59
- Dodge Super Bee '70
- Ferrari 365 GTB4 '71
- Lamborghini Aventador LP 750-4 Superveloce '15
- Mazda Demio XD Touring '15
- Mercedes-Benz 300 SEL 6.8 AMG '71
- Porsche Taycan Turbo S '19
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I guess it depends on if you like online racing or not. I've been waiting for a proper single player GT this whole generation. At first I assumed we would get a PS4 remaster of GT6, never bought GT6, had already swapped consoles when it released. Then I assumed Sport was just an experimental title while they were finishing GT7, and I don't have PS+ so I've just dabbled a bit with the demo of Sport.
In short, no GT Sport is not enough. :P
Didnt affect turn 10s output, in fact they produced more this gen.
It's hard to find exact numbers, but Polyphony is listed at ~170 staff on it's website, while LinkedIn has Turn 10 in the "201-500" employee range. Playground Games is also around there nowadays but was smaller in the past. It's concievable that the difference in output is some combination of corporate culture, staff counts, and the ambition of a given game. Both Turn 10 and Playground have been noted as very efficient and unusually productive developers even compared to other western studios.
Seriously? Is it a recent update? Same size and structure as in old games?
It would be by far the dumbest first party move in recent history to release GT7 on PS4 after PS5 is out.
I believe it was added end of 2017 or beginning of 2018 so not that recent.
Ah okay yeah I've heard about that one, everyone praise the post-launch support so I thought they had updated it with a proper GT campaign. :/
Yeah, the quality of this forum is going down the shitter, half of the threads are dumb meme/fad garbage at this point. I actually had to download a filtering extension just so I don't need to see them any more.
*adds "last gen" to filter list just underneath "fanart following"*
The premium car, standard car thing they pulled last gen was one of the reasons they had two games out.
As a studio they seem to take way too much time delivering on content, even GT Sport was a mess when it comes to content when it came out.
As a studio they seem to take way too much time delivering on content, even GT Sport was a mess when it comes to content when it came out.
It's not only that. It took them almost two years for adding rain to a few tracks and dynamic tod also didn't make it over :/
Think about your own question. What do you think happened during a generation with a much higher fidelity ceiling across visuals, sound, modeling, texture work and lighting?
They are not alone in that respect. Turn 10 has done the same thing most of this generation when it comes to weather. I really hope that with the next generation we see these developers having dynamic weather on each track, full day and night cycles, far greater pit options and simulation settings that we see on PC sims seeing that they will be sporting a really good CPU on the console this time round.
Yes, it took turn10 also that long when it comes to weather, although it is more dynamic than with GTS. The thing with Gran Turismo though is that they did it last gen already and couldn't do it with GTS.
Guys, you're right about standard cars. But premium cars in GT5 were outstanding too and if I remember correctly, the game had about 200 premium cars at launch.
Just imagine this quality for a 2010 game on a 2006 console.
I mean we shouldn't talk about GT5/6 like they didn't have much premium cars.
Just imagine this quality for a 2010 game on a 2006 console.
I mean we shouldn't talk about GT5/6 like they didn't have much premium cars.
This is something that had me confused too. My hope is that they get to a position where they are really challenging Turn 10 and Slightly Mad Studios.