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Polygon: The fallout of Spider-Man’s recasting on PS5 has been swift and ugly
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Everybody is entitled to their opinion. I for one would say he looks more similar to Tom Holland now, which is playing a high school student in Spider-Man. So im on the fence that yes he looks like a teenager, and Im absolutely not a fan of the recast. It seems unnecessary to me. Again, everybody is entitled to their own opinion though.
I'm confused. If he's the voice of Peter, why doesn't he do the mocap too?
What's the point you're getting at then? (genuinely curious, not being a dick) This whole thing is on the same level of controversy as puddlegate. It'll be forgotten about as people are 2 hours into the remaster. It's fair for either side to like or dislike the new model. But to make it some huge issue and point of contention is laughably ridiculous. I personally think it looks better, but I had zero attachment to the original. I'd have way more of an issue with them changing the VA. Yuri's voice for the character has way more staying power to me than that stinkin' character model.
He does (or at least the facial capture). But he's also pushing 50 so they can't really use his likeness for the character. They wanted a model that matched his bone structure closer.
Though I have my suspicion that there were some contract disputes here that they won't openly talk about. But that's just speculation
Either way, what a weird controversy. It was a character design for one whole game.
He does do the mocap.
But he isn't Peter's face model. So the mocap he does needs to have a decent match to the face that's in the game.
You don't think mocap tech is going to be better and more detailed going forward?
You're saying this about a game that already sold 10 million + copies.
Jesus Christ.
Gamers are the worst. The recasting is a clear improvement.
"They made him younger and hotter. Gamers rise up!"
Reactionaries are so exhausting.
"They made him younger and hotter. Gamers rise up!"
Reactionaries are so exhausting.
Just recently I started using Twitter and just peeking under the carpet a tad is mind blowing how hate on that platform gets the forefront of attention. Literally any post I see the replies are ALWAYS angry or nuts. How does anyone read that shit?
Everything is a "stand" that needs to be taken. So gross.
Everything is a "stand" that needs to be taken. So gross.
Tom Holland. Age 24
Ben Jorden. Age 26
Ella Coltrane Age 21
Logan Lerman. Age 23
Craig Roberts. Age 24
People just don't know what a early 20's male looks like.
Well sure, I'm not arguing about whether you should like the recast, I'm just saying that in my opinion this definition of who does or doesn't look like a teenager is kind of weird when we know for a fact that not only both this actor and the previous one are about the same age, they're also both older than the character in the game.
I get that it's weird that just Peter has a different face all of a sudden, I thought the same thing.
What I don't understand is: if the reason for changing his face is so that it suits the voice actor better, then why does the reanimated scene they put out show a worse performance than the original? Some subtle animations where lost in the transition, so what did we gain?
lol this
Has a redesigned main character ever managed to dodge negative impressions?
Has even a side character managed?
Yeah it's not like Peter Parker has had 100 different faces over the last 60 years or anything, big flippin' deal
Oh, I dont think that I know more than the developers, that's for sure.
I just think that they could have changed for marketing reasons, and they wouldnt admit it if that was the real reason.
I just dont take companies words for granted, sorry
Again, doesnt mean that I'm boycotting the game or anything like that. I'm just discussing about it because I can think of other reasons for the change (doesn't mean that what they are saying isn't the truth)
And oh, I'm used to people thinking that knows more than me in my field. I'm an economist.
I feel bad for doctors tho
Pls stop posting evidence. It makes irrational people look bad!
Tom Holland. Age 24
Ben Jorden. Age 26
Ella Coltrane Age 21
Logan Lerman. Age 23
Craig Roberts. Age 24
People just don't know what a early 20's male looks like.
It's bizarre to think that I live in the same world as those people ... just ... weird
So what you're saying is Tom Holland doesn't look younger than his age? Time for a recast in the MCU
Tom Holland. Age 24
Ben Jorden. Age 26
Ella Coltrane Age 21
Logan Lerman. Age 23
Craig Roberts. Age 24
People just don't know what a early 20's male looks like.
Some of this "rising up" has to just be console warz crap, right?
Right?
How does this actually matter?
Right?
How does this actually matter?
Honestly, I keep thinking that people have just.... forgotten what people in their early 20s look like? They (often) look really young!
Older people who think they still look like they're in their 20s still maybe!
People are so used to teen movie and CW show casting they can't tell what real young people look like lol. The actor for the new face is still years older than Peter is even supposed to be in the game, so the notion he looks too young is bizarre to me. I'll blame stuff like Mean Girls, 13 Reasons Why, Riverdale, etc.
The platform is primed for controversy. More controversy = higher engagement. It's toxic to the core, by design.
Actually, some people look younger than what they are. Tom Holland plays as a high school student because he can pull it off. He was also 21 when Homecoming released, and younger when it was being filmed.
I don't hate the change it just feels unnecessary and I do feel like the old face is more... unique? I get the explanation but it's not like Peter's face looked bad before? It seems like the new face is just easier for Insomniac to work with because it's closer to Yuri's face so I don't blame them for making the change. It's just always odd whenever a developer changes a character's face or voice. Either way, it certainly doesn't deserve the backlash that it's gotten. Though this was the game that made people enraged about puddles so this backlash isn't surprising.
Whether or not the actor is older doesnt really matter. Its about how they appear visually in the game. In the game he could easily be mistaken for a High School student.
I dont think this is a "gamers" thing
Recast any actor in the DCU/MCU after a movie had already been released
The discussion would be even worse
because they know everything Sony gets huge engagement numbers right now so latching on to a dumb non-controversy is very good for ad revenue
Again, the change is most likely for the sequel which is probably full next gen.
You'll likely see the big improvement on the sequel instead (or MM if the new Peter appears) where they probably improved the tech of their mocap system.
They're not gonna redo the mocap of the first game I don't think. They probably just swap the model and fix some quirks while the original model animation probably got a lot of tweaks by the animators.
I think we've (you) solved almost all the threads on this forum, twitter and a variety of other platforms.
