And?
And?
It was bait to be sure, but perhaps a taste of the same medicine:White officers just happen to be the majority of the police forces, and police forces are plagued by systemic racism.
I'm not even taking the "are only white people racist" bait, sorry.
Good job dodging me showing you that corrupt police forces are a worldwide issue by the way.
This entire fucking discussion is about politics
how you gonna try and tone police a minority about saying acab and then cry about how people are making this political
It's distasteful sure but idk I've been seeing "player x has been killed by cancer" for decades nowWell, it's pretty distasteful
Try to switch Coronavirus with any other mortal/incurable illness
If you can't see it, then...
Fair point. I just remember Sony delaying their PS5 event and speaking out about it where Nintendo was silent for over a week, I believe. They're all the same I guess. SadWhy do you genuinely think any of these companies care? Or that you expected better for them? They're corporations. They literally do not give a fuck about social injustices or anything like that. Remember when all the companies came out in "support" of BLM and then as soon as it stopped making headline news, where did they go?
It's distasteful sure but idk I've been seeing "player x has been killed by cancer" for decades now
I just remember Sony delaying their PS5 event and speaking out about it where Nintendo was silent for over a week
This is unhelpful. Systemic racism in an organisation doesn't mean all of its members are worthy of censure and beyond redemption. Police still do very challenging life threatening work. Some of them do it in ways that deserve imprisonment. Not all of them do. You're sounding like the right wingers on Facebook who cant do nuanced and thoughtful argumentation.Police reform isn't fucking happening until we stop treating cops as anything more than the state-sponsored gangs they are. People weren't listening to the abuse happening until protesters took off the kids' gloves.
It's 2020I'm always surprised when I see the support of generalizations such as "all cops are bastards". It's barely a step away from saying all "insert race" are bastards or all "insert religion" are bastards. You're barely better than those people. In the NeoGaf days I would have gotten banned for a post like this so we'll see how this goes. I'm speaking from the position of having a family member In the police department. He's as liberal as they come and is just as outraged as all of us regarding the recent videos and stories. He goes out every day actively trying to enact positive change. He's not a bastard and I personally take offense to the double standard.
I'm always surprised when I see the support of generalizations such as "all cops are bastards". It's barely a step away from saying all "insert race" are bastards or all "insert religion" are bastards. You're barely better than those people. In the NeoGaf days I would have gotten banned for a post like this so we'll see how this goes. I'm speaking from the position of having a family member In the police department. He's as liberal as they come and is just as outraged as all of us regarding the recent videos and stories. He goes out every day actively trying to enact positive change. He's not a bastard and I personally take offense to the double standard.
Everybody coming up with a million reasons why ACAB was banned, but are silent as to why MAGA is allowed
funny
I'm always surprised when I see the support of generalizations such as "all cops are bastards". It's barely a step away from saying all "insert race" are bastards or all "insert religion" are bastards. You're barely better than those people. In the NeoGaf days I would have gotten banned for a post like this so we'll see how this goes. I'm speaking from the position of having a family member In the police department. He's as liberal as they come and is just as outraged as all of us regarding the recent videos and stories. He goes out every day actively trying to enact positive change. He's not a bastard and I personally take offense to the double standard.
Law enforcement is a chosen occupation, with protections (and an intentional lack of accountability) that enable the continued fucking oppression of the poor and minority groups. By oppression, I mean specifically the continued extrajudicial murder of non-violent civilians.I'm always surprised when I see the support of generalizations such as "all cops are bastards". It's barely a step away from saying all "insert race" are bastards or all "insert religion" are bastards. You're barely better than those people. In the NeoGaf days I would have gotten banned for a post like this so we'll see how this goes. I'm speaking from the position of having a family member In the police department. He's as liberal as they come and is just as outraged as all of us regarding the recent videos and stories. He goes out every day actively trying to enact positive change. He's not a bastard and I personally take offense to the double standard.
Fair point. I just remember Sony delaying their PS5 event and speaking out about it where Nintendo was silent for over a week, I believe. They're all the same I guess. Sad
I understand why some are initially put off by ACAB, especially if they have family members who are cops but please do not compare a job to a religion or a race.I'm always surprised when I see the support of generalizations such as "all cops are bastards". It's barely a step away from saying all "insert race" are bastards or all "insert religion" are bastards. You're barely better than those people. In the NeoGaf days I would have gotten banned for a post like this so we'll see how this goes. I'm speaking from the position of having a family member In the police department. He's as liberal as they come and is just as outraged as all of us regarding the recent videos and stories. He goes out every day actively trying to enact positive change. He's not a bastard and I personally take offense to the double standard.
I'm always surprised when I see the support of generalizations such as "all cops are bastards". It's barely a step away from saying all "insert race" are bastards or all "insert religion" are bastards. You're barely better than those people. In the NeoGaf days I would have gotten banned for a post like this so we'll see how this goes. I'm speaking from the position of having a family member In the police department. He's as liberal as they come and is just as outraged as all of us regarding the recent videos and stories. He goes out every day actively trying to enact positive change. He's not a bastard and I personally take offense to the double standard.
I'm speaking from the position of having a family member In the police department. He's as liberal as they come and is just as outraged as all of us regarding the recent videos and stories. He goes out every day actively trying to enact positive change. He's not a bastard and I personally take offense to the double standard.
I'm always surprised when I see the support of generalizations such as "all cops are bastards". It's barely a step away from saying all "insert race" are bastards
I'm always surprised when I see the support of generalizations such as "all cops are bastards". It's barely a step away from saying all "insert race" are bastards or all "insert religion" are bastards. You're barely better than those people. In the NeoGaf days I would have gotten banned for a post like this so we'll see how this goes. I'm speaking from the position of having a family member In the police department. He's as liberal as they come and is just as outraged as all of us regarding the recent videos and stories. He goes out every day actively trying to enact positive change. He's not a bastard and I personally take offense to the double standard.
I'm not gonna
It's 2020
STOP COMPARING A FUCKING JOB TO A RACE OF PEOPLE
THEY CHOSE TO BE POLICE. I DIDNT CHOOSE TO BE BLACK
and honestly fuck your family member, if they were as liberal as they come they wouldn't stay in a system that's designed to beat and slaughter people like me
Law enforcement is a chosen occupation, with protections (and an intentional lack of accountability) that enable the continued fucking oppression of the poor and minority groups. By oppression, I mean specifically the continued extrajudicial murder of non-violent civilians.
Fuck outta here with comparing it to racism or religious persecution.
The fuck? ACAB is a judgement on the system. Not so much each individual cop. If you work for a system that's systemically racist knowing this, then you fall in line with them. This is absolutely NOTHING like being racists or xenophobic.
Fuck the Police.
Just so we are clear, I mean all of them. And just to add further nuance, the police are an arm of the state and they never ever choose the people over the protection of property or positions of power.
That is who yall are going to bat for. Lmao. And people say this is a left leaning site. Granted this is gaming side.
Eeeeeeeeh no, it has been already said that it's because it doesn't contain any swear word
WTF is also banned
This isn't a political stance like some of you guys are trying to make it look like, it's just swearing.
I'm always surprised when I see the support of generalizations such as "all cops are bastards". It's barely a step away from saying all "insert race" are bastards or all "insert religion" are bastards. You're barely better than those people. In the NeoGaf days I would have gotten banned for a post like this so we'll see how this goes. I'm speaking from the position of having a family member In the police department. He's as liberal as they come and is just as outraged as all of us regarding the recent videos and stories. He goes out every day actively trying to enact positive change. He's not a bastard and I personally take offense to the double standard.
I'm always surprised when I see the support of generalizations such as "all cops are bastards". It's barely a step away from saying all "insert race" are bastards or all "insert religion" are bastards. You're barely better than those people. In the NeoGaf days I would have gotten banned for a post like this so we'll see how this goes. I'm speaking from the position of having a family member In the police department. He's as liberal as they come and is just as outraged as all of us regarding the recent videos and stories. He goes out every day actively trying to enact positive change. He's not a bastard and I personally take offense to the double standard.
Good one, m8.a family member In the police department. He's as liberal as they come
I seek no conflict with you or to belittle you.It was bait to be sure, but perhaps a taste of the same medicine:
1. You nitpick me for making a generalization/simplification.
2. In the same post, you make a generalization about white police officers.
3. I frame a ridiculous question that exposes the flawed logic behind your generalization.
4. You call out the ridiculousness of the question and unconsciously prove my point.
But if all you really want is for me to redact my previous statement... Fair enough, corrupt law enforcement is not exclusive to the USA. You got me.
Will he report a fellow officer who commits a crime though?I'm always surprised when I see the support of generalizations such as "all cops are bastards". It's barely a step away from saying all "insert race" are bastards or all "insert religion" are bastards. You're barely better than those people. In the NeoGaf days I would have gotten banned for a post like this so we'll see how this goes. I'm speaking from the position of having a family member In the police department. He's as liberal as they come and is just as outraged as all of us regarding the recent videos and stories. He goes out every day actively trying to enact positive change. He's not a bastard and I personally take offense to the double standard.
Now, this is another thing entirely, however, in this very thread there are people here judging police as individuals and using this generalization on them not as a system or organization, but on the fact that they're cops.
That's a mistake.
Ultimately policing is about maintaining a system of private property that allows exploitation to continue. It has been a tool for facilitating regimes of exploitation since the late eighteenth and early nineteenth century. When most modern police forces were formed, those regimes were colonialism, slavery, and industrialization. Policing emerged to manage their consequences — to suppress slave revolts, to put down colonial uprisings, to force the working class to behave as a stable workforce that doesn't act out.
You guys are missing the point, or not explaining yours properly
The fuck are you talking about?You guys are missing the point, or not explaining yours properly
You guys are missing the point, or not explaining yours properly
Now, this is another thing entirely, however, in this very thread there are people here judging police as individuals and using this generalization on them not as a system or organization, but on the fact that they're cops.
That's a mistake.
Nothing, except that they are both in bad taste for a video game nickname.What does the name of a virus have to do with a fascist political slogan?
Please identify the miscommunication in saying "COP IS NOT A RACE", especially in discussions about how police beat and murder BIPOC.
Fuck the Police.
Just so we are clear, I mean all of them. And just to add further nuance, the police are an arm of the state and they never ever choose the people over the protection of property or positions of power.
That is who yall are going to bat for. Lmao. And people say this is a left leaning site. Granted this is gaming side.
Nope, sorry. You lose sight of the individuals, you lose all your nuance.
I'm always surprised when I see the support of generalizations such as "all cops are bastards". It's barely a step away from saying all "insert race" are bastards or all "insert religion" are bastards. You're barely better than those people. In the NeoGaf days I would have gotten banned for a post like this so we'll see how this goes. I'm speaking from the position of having a family member In the police department. He's as liberal as they come and is just as outraged as all of us regarding the recent videos and stories. He goes out every day actively trying to enact positive change. He's not a bastard and I personally take offense to the double standard.
After I watched a crowd of peaceful protesters get bombarded by tear gas a couple streets from where I work, I lost my patience for this nonsense. Individual cops can think about redemption when the system they choose to work under changes. Until then, all cops are bastards.This is unhelpful. Systemic racism in an organisation doesn't mean all of its members are worthy of censure and beyond redemption. Police still do very challenging life threatening work. Some of them do it in ways that deserve imprisonment. Not all of them do. You're sounding like the right wingers on Facebook who cant do nuanced and thoughtful argumentation.
His point is that police, as an institution, is worthy of ACAB, but cops, as individuals, not necessarily
He failed to get his point across because he used "Race", wich blinded you. Understable, but wrong.
I dunno. What are you talking about?
Nope, sorry. You lose sight of the individuals, you lose all your nuance.
There's no nuance here. No one is born a cop, people choose this job knowing that they will need to follow orders form the govt, and they aren't 100% made of great people with great intentions.
They can have good intention at the beggining, but years after and still trying to "change the system from the inside"?
laughableNope, sorry. You lose sight of the individuals, you lose all your nuance.
This is unhelpful. Systemic racism in an organisation doesn't mean all of its members are worthy of censure and beyond redemption. Police still do very challenging life threatening work. Some of them do it in ways that deserve imprisonment. Not all of them do. You're sounding like the right wingers on Facebook who cant do nuanced and thoughtful argumentation.
I know that worldwide cops have a big problem with racism. But I stand by my point that generalizations are dumb.
But I know that on this forum it is ok to post generalization insults as long it goes against, whites, heteros and men.
Or hit by "friendly fire" or "let go"