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Twister

Member
Feb 11, 2019
5,084
People here will really look for any reason to be upset huh? They banned coronavirus because it's a disease that has killed thousands of people and destroyed lives. They don't want people making jokes about it in their usernames when it's a sensitive topic right now. I don't understand how that would be hard to grasp
 

udivision

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,033
So you know how the police is working in all of the other states in the world? The police isn't as hated in my country for example, far from it. We have very low shoot and death rates and the police has far better education and training than in the US, for example. It's not comparable at all.
"All" is the keyword. It's not really a "but I know a good guy who..." or "but not where I'm from" kind of thing. All is all, which is kind of the point of the phrase.
 

DeuceGamer

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,476
People here will really look for any reason to be upset huh? They banned coronavirus because it's a disease that has killed thousands of people and destroyed lives. They don't want people making jokes about it in their usernames when it's a sensitive topic right now. I don't understand how that would be hard to grasp

I'm sure I will get hate for this, but I agree. Not sure why they banned Coronavirus, but I also don't see why it's worth getting upset about and think you have a fair point.

Also, why is everyone up in arms about ACAB? There are plenty of bad cops, who rightly deserve to be called out, but let's not pretend that ALL are.
 

delete12345

One Winged Slayer
Member
Nov 17, 2017
19,700
Boston, MA
You can? Is that in some animal crossing section or something?
Yep

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lexony

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,519
Why ban coronavirus? Like are people spreading fake news on Nintendo games or... is just mentioning THE 2020 topic considered controversial? As for ACAB I guess it maybe has to do with "bastards", but it just seems like the typical Nintendo practice of trying to be apolitical but accidentally taking a political stance in the process.
How would it even possible for people to spread fake news about Corona by their usernames? These words are just banned for usernames. It is probably still possible to use them in messages (Is there even an official chat function for switch outside animal crossing?).
 
Jan 2, 2018
10,699
User Banned (Permanent): Dismissing concerns around police violence as an exclusively US matter. Long history of similar infractions
Are you a minority in your country? Are you an immigrant? Are you poor? If not, please ask someone who's either a minority, immigrant or poor about how the police is in your country and then come back to the thread. Police don't have to literally shoot people in the streets like in the US to be bastards. I've yet to see a country in which ACAB is not applicable.

I think I know better what happens in the country I live in than some poster from another country with an already (perhaps understandably so, I don't know much about Israel) skewed view on the matter. I know many people, and yes, I also know people who belong to a minority, I can look at our news and statistics.

"All" is the keyword. It's not really a "but I know a good guy who..." or "but not where I'm from" kind of thing. All is all, which is kind of the point of the phrase.

And that's exactly the problem. It's not all. In the US it's a major and systematic problem, but it's such a different situation in other countries, that this generalization is again, really american-centric.
 

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I think I know better what happens in the country I live in than some poster from another country with an already (perhaps understandably so, I don't know much about Israel) skewed view on the matter. I know many people, and yes, I also know people who belong to a minority, I can look at our news and statistics.



And that's exactly the problem. It's not all. In the US it's a major and systematic problem, but it's such a different situation in other countries, that this generalization is again, really american-centric.
i got banned for saying stuff like this
 

Halfstar

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 29, 2017
105
Hello, my name is 1312. What it means? That's just my year of birth. No hidden meaning.

And yes, it's not just some cops, it's all. Are they all bad people? Maybe not. But they are part of bad system, and they protect the "bad apples" as far as they can get away with. All who don't get fired. And I'm not form the US btw.

There can be discussions about how effective the slogan is, but banning it is wrong.
 

Homura

▲ Legend ▲
Member
Aug 20, 2019
6,111
As stated many times here already nintendo has Eshop games with bastard in the name
Void Bastards is M rated.
Switches with Parental Control can't play the game. Splatoon 2 is allowed though and maybe Nintendo doesn't want kids to see usernames with swear words. WTF isn't allowed either for example.
 

Marmoka

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,031
User Warned: Inappropriate drive-by
Nintendo will not allow me to say that all cats are beautiful from now on?

Shit!! Fuck off!!
 

Lord Fanny

Banned
Apr 25, 2020
25,953
Surely people don't believe ALL cops are bad apples right? I dont even keep up with this stuff. I hadn't even heard of ACAB until this thread.

The statement is more aimed at the system that the police operate in. There may be cops who are good people, but has been proven time and time again, the system they are part of either makes them complicit in oppression or ineffective against it. So yes, all cops are bad because the system they are part of makes them bad whether through direct or indirect participation.
 

KDR_11k

Banned
Nov 10, 2017
5,235
I know in Germany ACAB is legally considered an insult so you can be fined for it (enforcement of the insult law is pretty sparse, to the point that people believe that insulting cops is a special law just because cops are more likely to report insults).
 

FrakEarth

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,277
Liverpool, UK
I think you have to ask yourself if Nintendo want kids discovering swear words on their platform by googling acronyms that people use on it. And yes, bastards is a swear word as far as many parents are concerned. The system has parental controls, but that doesn't extend to policing individual user decisions like what they decide to call themselves. Kids are going to encounter bad language sooner or later, but the Nintendo ecosystem is much cleaner than others, unless you're playing something like Rocket League, in which case, the internet anonymity equation applies. I had a friend banned on PlayStation a few years back for calling himself futher mucker. Companies just don't want you doing stuff like that..

For me, allowing BLM to stand is good enough for me to show good will towards that particular political cause, you just know that someone out there is absolutely frothing that Nintendo allow people to put BLM in their nicks. It's not like they're censoring the movement. For things like ACAB, I get why they don't want it - I don't need them to allow a free for all in users nicknames. I'm not sure naming yourself ACAB in Nintendo games is going to change the world anyway, its a reductive statement that is more true in some parts of the world than others and kids are by and large born good. Abhorrent views are almost always socialised. It's the older generation and the voting generation who need to wake up and make positive change in the world.. and if they can't, hopefully when they shuffle off, the generations coming up behind them will.
 

Zuko

Member
Aug 11, 2020
895
Having a hard time understanding why people are mad about this. Anything for a safer platform, don't see why any of these things need to be people's user names.
 

Piccoro

Member
Nov 20, 2017
7,099
Yeah, I know that this can happen. But I really hope I won't be banned for talking the truth about the situation in my country. I know it's terrible in the US, I even said so, but you can't act like it's the same in any other country, because it's just not the case.
A few weeks ago there was a thread here about a french reporter that went to work for the Paris police undercover, and he found out they were tremendously racist.

I'm from Europe and there's complaints about the police in most countries.
The Europol was also investigating a rise in far-right people infiltrated in the police in my country.

So no, this is definitely NOT only a US problem.
 

Nerokis

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,567
Surely people don't believe ALL cops are bad apples right? I dont even keep up with this stuff. I hadn't even heard of ACAB until this thread.

The phrase is "a few bad apples spoils the bunch." ACAB emphasizes the bunch part: the issues systemic to policing as an institution and the fact that every single person who chooses to be a cop inevitably has a compromised relationship to that institution. (Which, in turn, results in 1) the kind of self-selecting pool and 2) the kind of normalized behaviors that, yes, result in a huge amount of cops actually just straight up being bastards even removed from that larger context.)

Is there a cop out there who wouldn't hurt a fly? Who is a pacifist who refuses to even carry a gun? Imaginable enough, sure. But ACAB is a statement in judgment of those cops' relationship to an utterly broken and destructive and racist institution, not a statement in judgment of their ability to project warmth and sweetness in random interpersonal situations.

The only hint I have is Tencent holding some Nintendo stocks. But this is purely speculation.

...seriously?

It'a pretty obvious why Nintendo doesn't think the word "coronavirus" popping up in people's nicknames is productive or appropriate to their platform, and I doubt it has anything to do with a Chinese stockholder trying to suppress usage of it.
 
Jul 3, 2019
963
Nintendo has always been a fence sitter on social issues, it's frustrating because neutrality and silence only helps oppressive groups.
 
Mar 22, 2020
96
People would like to assume that ACAB applies to the entire world. It's very much an American issue; Nintendo doesn't want American politics infesting their platform. On top of that, people are just as likely to make a distasteful joke using acronyms rather than for their intended message/meaning.
 

TheClaw7667

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,705
I can't imagine not seeing the ACAB acronym in 2020 until now, in this thread, as a response to Nintendo banning it. But OK, maybe not everyone on the internet that's posting on a videogame forum has come across it (though I doubt it) but what I don't understand is trying to defend the decision to ban it. If you've lived in enough of a bubble to not know what it means (especially in 2020) and only know what ACAB means because of this thread, why is the immediate reaction to defend or rationalize Nintendo's decision?

It's threads like these that make me think some Nintendo fans live in a different reality than me.
 

Xiao Hu

Chicken Chaser
Banned
Oct 26, 2017
1,497
Aaaah I see, there are some pig lovers at Nintendo.

Is 1312 still working though?
 

Gotdatmoney

Member
Oct 28, 2017
14,501
This statement is both inaccurate and hateful. Not sure why you think that's cool to say.

Naw, you can miss me with this bullshit.

All Cops Are Bastards. All of them, straight up. The police are not an institution that protects the people. They are an institution that protects capital spend and oppresses minorities and they can all fuck off and you can too with that non sense.
 

Nerokis

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,567
People would like to assume that ACAB applies to the entire world. It's very much an American issue; Nintendo doesn't want American politics infesting their platform. On top of that, people are just as likely to make a distasteful joke using acronyms rather than for their intended message/meaning.

Actually, it very much ISN'T an American issue. There are a whole lot of countries out there with unjust law enforcement systems, with broken and violent policing, and all that other good stuff.

It's interesting to me how obvious that is, and yet people trying to be dismissive of this issue almost always feel the need to throw out that "it's an America thing" simplification. Why is it that y'all can't just be specific about where, exactly, apparently this or that isn't a problem, instead of pretending the problem is exclusive to a single country?