Well, if you watched the video it would have been apparent to you that it wasn't written with a straight face
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Polygon: Nintendo is a decade behind the rest of the gaming industry
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Well, if you watched the video it would have been apparent to you that it wasn't written with a straight face
That was pretty enjoyable. Mario dad could be a pretty cool game if Mario Jr is leaping out of a little pouch all game.
If you actually clicked the link you'd know there is no article, it's a video.
Can someone explain the problem with this graphic to me? It always gets posted but I've never understood the problem. It makes sense as a visual representation of the insane attach rate of MK to Nintendo consoles. What's the problem?
Don't give them the clicks.
It's been awhile, but the article in question as I recall was about why MK8 wouldn't sell well or something super strange like that.
grudges against video game websites that slander mario kart never die
I honest to God still know people mad at IGN for giving Double Dash a (deserved) 7.9.
A decade behind in gaming trends but a decade ahead in sales. What that tells me is that certain aspects of the industry are headed in the wrong direction.
Will have to agree with this. I love my switch and mario odyssey is in my top 5 of all time and BOTW, while not in love with it like others, is a solid game, but Nintendo is definitely far behind the rest.
It's honestly true though. I just took the PS3 back out to play SMT3 and I was thinking how ahead of it's time the console was. You hop on your switch and it's just..... so miniscule. Can't say it bothers me because it gets the job done in terms of games, but cmon at the very least let us message our friends lol
How so? What is it doing that couldn't be done last gen? I understand liking the game, but this claim is pretty weird. You realize there were tons of open world games last gen right?
lmao really??? Makes sense why people are still killing them for it then
Pie chart just not the right format; meant to convey parts of a whole not the size of 2 disparate things.
Goddamn, is this thread a litmus test for people who don't read beyond the thread title or what, huh.
Theyre so behind yet they make the best games in the industry and the best selling hardware.
I think they need to update their definitions of what "behind" actually means because theyre for sure not late to what the market responds to. Theyre were far AHEAD of the industry when it came to Nintendo Directs, handheld, the Wii, the Switch, many other things but funny how those things dont count because they dont have a game that looks like the Witcher even when it terms of gameplay a game like BotW is so far ahead of its entire genre
I think they need to update their definitions of what "behind" actually means because theyre for sure not late to what the market responds to. Theyre were far AHEAD of the industry when it came to Nintendo Directs, handheld, the Wii, the Switch, many other things but funny how those things dont count because they dont have a game that looks like the Witcher even when it terms of gameplay a game like BotW is so far ahead of its entire genre
Arg. This is not actually much better than the pie chart. If I remember, their basic thesis was 'Mario Kart has a high attach rate', which could be conveyed with a single number (ratio of MK sales : hardware sales). If they insist on breaking it out into a time series like the above, it should be an actual time series and not one where the space between data points is anywhere from 2 years to 5 years. They should probably simply present a bar chart of attach by system / release. They could then discuss outliers (maybe Super Circuit fared poorly because it didn't lend itself as well to multiplayer? maybe the Wii was the perfect Mario Kart audience?). That would also avoid conflating the sales of different hardware models (if that's even what is going on up there) which had wildly different pricing, were on the market for different lengths of time, etc.
(analyst rant mode off)
...Goddamn, I'd actually buy that Metroid game.
It's also a pretty funny one.
From this golden piece of article...
The original from 2014: https://web.archive.org/web/2014051...com/2014/5/15/5718168/mario-kart-series-sales
Then, days later they updated the article removing the infamous piechart... xD...
Mario Kart 8 will likely be the worst-selling game in franchise history, here's why
The Mario Kart series has long been a sales leader, ranking as the second-best selling game on Nintendo's last three hardware platforms, but even if every current Wii U owner bought the next...
www.polygon.com
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I largely agree with that premise (though the video plays it up for laughs). That being said, the part that I struggle with is the idea that BotW "perfected the open world game". I mean, the reason so many people love that game is because they innovated when it came to the traversal mechanics. The best parts of that game are largely innovative. The rest of the stuff BotW does worse than the majority of big hitters in that genre. It is hard to take that comment too seriously, though; it was clearly more of a lighthearted, fun video.
Not that your points are wrong, but you should watch the video. It's pretty good. You can find the author's view of BotW within the first minute or so.
It's not even on Polygon's website, it's a youtube video. Christ.
The idea of a Kirby VR survival horror from a Waddle Dee's perspective sounds silly until you realize Kirby is actually that horrifying.
Do you think that makes a big difference? Views = rates they can charge for ads. The title is meant to drive hate views. Don't reward them.
This only really bothers me on the technical side. They fact that seeing BotW in 4K/HDR will either never natively happen or it'll be a decade from now is a criminal disservice to the art in that game.
The video title is a bit click baity but it's played for laughs. I too certainly appreciate their approach
People are preemptively disagreeing and agreeing with the title without really watching the video. If nothing else, it's another example of why the discourse on Era can be a bit...lacking
But it's not tho...
People are preemptively disagreeing and agreeing with the title without really watching the video. If nothing else, it's another example of why the discourse on Era can be a bit...lacking
You can't just squish two completely different metrics onto the same chart. A good pie chart would be, for example, the population of pizzas split by different toppings, with a different piece of the pie for each topping. A bad pie chart would be comparing the amount of pizzas to the amount of fried chicken. Polygon's infamous pie chart is closer to the latter. The proper graph of choice would have been a bar graph.
It doesn't make sense as a visual representation of MK's attach rate, that's the problem.
Came for this. Did not disappoint.
So, don't reward them for accurate, informative, and well made coverage - but do keep linking back to an article from six years ago you don't like because that justifies your anger.
Oh I noticed the video isnt as bad as the headline. Im not mad or anything, but its something people tend to bring up and Im like "I HAVE THOUGHTS!"
I guess
I guess you didn't read it? And I find it great Nintendo dont go for cutting edge as we're well served there already. It's a nice balance to have them concentrating on gameplay rather than putting too much focus on graphics.
I'd call Nintendo's approach as a "Spacemaker." They either build new spaces, new sub-genres or twists on existing products, or occupy abandoned spaces, all creating a kind of cohesive environment between them.
Contrast Microsoft which is more about using their software to trailblaze their services like Live, Gamepass, and their apk's. They want to build infrastructure and have games that drive that.
Sony's the only one that's really a "normal" publisher, with the caveat that they try not to tread on the toes of third party partners, and they often make games and franchises targeted square at Nintendo or Microsoft games.
Yeah, I feel ya. Honestly, save for online features, I never found them behind everyone else. Different, sure, but not behind. Hardly anyone else does a lot of the stuff they do
I mean.....yeah....but ive been having tons of fun playing on my switch..im not to big on multiplayer games at this point so I dont mind it.
They're arguably ahead in many ways, such as marketing in the social media age with their directs and stuff.
I wouldn't do that either as it still gives them clicks. People need to stop responding to obvious clickbait.
The funny thing is that what they were trying to prove with that article didn't turn out to be the truth, because on Wii U alone Mario Kart 8 sold better than Double Dash and Super Circuit.