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Poll: Was Kingdom Hearts 3 worth the 13 year wait?
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Well my wait/anticipation time for this game was probably more like a week since that's about how long before its release that I decided to buy it as my first KH game but assuming newcomers are still relevant ITT I'd say that the game overall doesn't really feel like a game that was a long time coming. Just so many of the sections/worlds/aspects in general of the game feel very dated and uninspired- the worst worlds really do feel like they were remastered from the PS2 games they're that bad IMO (those being Monstropolis and Arendelle). Just narrow pathways and corridors of generic baddies to beat up with next to no freedom/exploration/branching paths or well anything other than walking down or up towards the destination. Even the better worlds like Tangled and Toy Story are nothing mind blowing, and the other worlds of Hercules, Twilight Town and Winnie the Pooh are very brief comparatively.
I dunno the gameplay and combat overall is fun, and the Disney stuff is certainly endearing even if the voice acting and dialogue is stilted at best, but if this was a game I was anticipating for a long time I'd be more than a little let down. Don't even get me started on the plot too lol.
Graphics & animations are stellar but most of everything else is disjointed and too simplistic almost as if not much has changed since PS2 games were the standard.
I dunno the gameplay and combat overall is fun, and the Disney stuff is certainly endearing even if the voice acting and dialogue is stilted at best, but if this was a game I was anticipating for a long time I'd be more than a little let down. Don't even get me started on the plot too lol.
Graphics & animations are stellar but most of everything else is disjointed and too simplistic almost as if not much has changed since PS2 games were the standard.
Um actually no. Kingdom Hearts 3 is quite possibly the worst conclusion to a trilogy since Mass Effect 3 in almost the reverse sense. The plot doesn't even move forward until the last 5-8 hours or so depending on how fast you play. It's rushed, poorly written and only seems to serve as a hook for a sequel. Mind you it's got amazing gameplay and the spectacle is awe inducing, but as a series entry it's a bit shit. And isn't at all what I expected or wanted. It isn't even a conclusion. It's rushed tying up of loose ends that didn't need to exist (coded, Ux, 358/2) it almost feels like 2 separate games at the same time. As a stand-alone game, and every entry in a series should be written to push plot forward but also be a good story on its own, it's a bit shit.
I worded that poorly I did do Toy Box first. That said as of now I feel like I had my fill for what the game offers until I'm not distracted with games I prefer.
They told you about the the story of the Keyblade.
Tia Dalma and King Neptune know could've done it too, the also knew what the Keyblade is
Yen Sid taught Sora about the Keyblade and even tested him.
Mickey is the one that told Sora about Ansem the Wise and Xehanort . Leon just said he was a scientist of the heart. Nice try though.
You keep trying to present the FF cast as these integral and important character when they were just cameos
Joshua told Sora about Portals! He should be in considering the ending yet he is not, because he's just a cameo.
It's fine to want FF characters, I want them next time if possible, but they are NOT integral to KH anymore
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I've only played 1,2, and 3. Yes I believe that's indicative of the majority of people interested in this series.
The whole final 5 hours or so might be one of my favorite sections of any game.
The journey wasn't very fun. And while a few parts of the ending made me happy (some very happy), the way it ultimately played out made me unhappy, and I don't feel like I got proper closure. So no. It wasn't worth the wait for me.
The gameplay is great and the entire finale portion with so many things being resolved was wonderful. And that final boss fight was just amazing.
Everything else though... I have some real gripes with the story of the some worlds and how it feels like I was placed in the backseat rather than a passenger or co-lead for plenty of them. Frozen's world was the outright worst with this. There's also a serious lack of content unlike any other KH game ever that I now hope the game gets DLC of some kind to fill in so much that is missing, if not a full Final Mix expansion.
The entire Hollow Bastion restoration crew were Final Fantasy characters and we do not even get to see them enjoy the fruits of their labor from restoring Hollow Bastion to its former glory, Radiant Garden.
Radiant Garden is practically the home of many FF characters and original characters.
Everything else though... I have some real gripes with the story of the some worlds and how it feels like I was placed in the backseat rather than a passenger or co-lead for plenty of them. Frozen's world was the outright worst with this. There's also a serious lack of content unlike any other KH game ever that I now hope the game gets DLC of some kind to fill in so much that is missing, if not a full Final Mix expansion.
The entire Hollow Bastion restoration crew were Final Fantasy characters and we do not even get to see them enjoy the fruits of their labor from restoring Hollow Bastion to its former glory, Radiant Garden.
Radiant Garden is practically the home of many FF characters and original characters.
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Nomura, you cunning bastard!
That's still ridiculous. That's just shy of enough time to go through high school and get a bachelor's degree. It took so long to make KH3 after DDD that Xehanort's Japanese and English voice actors both died in the interim. And in the end KH3 doesn't do anything particularly different to justify that kind of time between installments. It's certainly not bad, but "What the hell took so long?" is a completely valid reaction to the game.
On the topic of no FF characters.... EDIT: you know what, I'm gonna spoiler this just in case..
I mean..
There's no good excuse for the exclusion of these characters given the way the plot of this game plays out. It's jarring and annoying and leaves bad impression of behind the scenes shit getting in the way of actually telling a good story and making a good game.
I mean..
major cutscenes in the game take place in Radiant Garden and the characters there basically act as the "man in the chair" for Sora during the whole journey. So it's obvious that characters like Leon and company should have been the ones doing that, or at least have been a part of the groups doing that along with Ienzo. It's not like the plot takes place under a completely different context and they never visit places where the FF characters would be. Their exclusion is jarring because the roles they played in 1 and 2 are being filled by entirely different characters, who live in the same world as they do, for no real reason. It simply doesn't make sense that none of them ever show up and nobody mentions of them at all. Like they just fucking vanished from existence. Are they sleeping in a pod somewhere and everybody lost their memories of them? It's bad writing for a series where players are clearly going to be expecting those characters to show up. For them to just suddenly not even exist. Hell, when Ienzo is first introduced in this game Sora and co aren't even sure if they should trust them (rightfully so), but then eventually do because....... plots gotta move forward? You know what would have solved this issue? Leon is there helping Ienzo (like he would be inclined to do seeing as how his group became the de facto leaders of Radiant Garden after every body else deserted it) and Leon tells Sora it's ok to trust these guys.
There's no good excuse for the exclusion of these characters given the way the plot of this game plays out. It's jarring and annoying and leaves bad impression of behind the scenes shit getting in the way of actually telling a good story and making a good game.
What the hell took so long which is basically 5 years and some months of development (when most AAA are on that timeframe) with the game of the franchise that still changed it's engine during development after creating the game on it from the zero, it's much bigger with it's worlds, it has much more mechanics, it's developed in a console of the last generation and it has much more people working on it. It has plenty of reasons for why it took more than what it did before which was on two generations ago for consoles.
You mean for a numbered mainline and a console KH game? Yes worth it even tho I'm very disappointed by the lack of FF characters and some gameplay mechanics.
Yes, it delivered on great payoffs for fans who kept up, and it captured that spectacle magic that KH is known for. Final Mix is going to come and probably solve most of the issues I have with the game just like it did in 2.
The lack of Disney bosses really kept me from saying it's my favorite KH game though. Fighting a giant UFO or a giant heartless isn't the same as fighting Oogie, Ursula, Scar, Shan Yu, Jafar, etc
So much this. The structure also didnt feel like it evolved much to have skipped an entire generation while waiting for it.
Also it was 13 years.
I see were still trying to pretend that the grand majority of this game is still important to the story despite any reason for going to the ones included in 3 have as much as reasoning as the ones we dont go to.
Amazing graphics and some (but not all) good voice work. Nice music at times and some cool worlds you visit. Let down by gimmicky sections that SE seemingly love to put in to games to ruin them, that you only use once or twice. And they're for the most part horrendous to play and suck the fun out of any game. The last 2 worlds were pretty bad. I don't mind exploring as in Hercules/Tangled/Frozen but having to do stupid, poorly tacked on elements that seem badly shoehorned in always hurts the experience. Some bosses were as bad as FFXV.
And the convoluted, confusing story with its inane characters I have no interest in, is all a load of BS.
And the convoluted, confusing story with its inane characters I have no interest in, is all a load of BS.
It was totally worth the wait in my opinion, because in that time they made the effort to bring all the other games to modern platforms, including a ground up remake of KH1. Not many series bother to do that. I'll take a slightly extended wait for KH3 to get complete versions of all the games that I can now play on PS5, 6, 7 etc
It's a fantastic game, the best KH game and will be my GOTY, and maybe SE's best game of the last 15 years. It nails the conclusion, something where Kojima and Bioware, and a few others have slipped over at the finishing line with MGS4 and ME3. But I can't get excited for the next game, there was about 6 years between this and 3D (which was just ok) and I don't even want to think of what's going in the middle of next decade... so no it's not worth waiting and anticipating the next one until the week or month it's out.
Should have waited at least a couple months before making this thread. Unless a highly anticipated game is legitimately bad, most people are still in the honeymoon phase after just a couple weeks.
I've been wondering for a while now how Square Enix keeps trucking along like they have. More specifically, how it seems like their most lauded and important creators can't seem to write themselves out of a paper bag, like the company sees so much value in giving power to divas who legit can't seem to plan or write anything more interesting than what teenagers have come up with for stillborn RPGMaker projects. I'll never get how Square Enix still has all this clout as an RPG house when it feels like they haven't grown much beyond having learned a thing or two about spectacle.
Finished last night, so I can finally vote.
The last 5hrs of the game were incredible. Shame you have to go through 25hrs of nothing really important to the story to reach them.
The last 5hrs of the game were incredible. Shame you have to go through 25hrs of nothing really important to the story to reach them.
I think I would have liked it a lot more if I would have played on Proud. Normal was so unbelievably easy and dull.
Disappointing? Sure. In line with how every other kingdom hearts game has worked by being extremely back heavy? Definitely.
Eh, I'm not massively dissapointed by it, but I'd say it didn't live up to my expectations. It's not like they were crazy high or anything, but it just felt like more could have been done. Playing the game is really fun; the world's are fun to explore for the most part, the weapon transformations were a nice blend between drive forms and command drives, the magics are crazy and bombastic, and things feel really good to play. It's really just that I wanted more content out of the game, both in terms of side content and playable characters. It's still grand fun, and I'm super excited to see what they add with DLC, but still there's definitely plenty of room for "more".
At the moment I disagree, except from Auron in the underworld being a party member, the FF characters were basically just novelty and amusing cameos but skippable for this sequel. That said it'll be cheeky if they do a Hollow Bastion DLC because it'd look like they were creating a thirst for something that was included in previous games.
You go to hollow bastion like 4 times in two where they play roles important to the story... keep seeing ppl say this nonsense and I don't understand it. Bbs and 3d put them to the side sure but those even have excuses ones a prequel and somehow still manages to stuff a ff character in there and the other is pretty isolated in the fact sora isn't traveling thru world of now but worlds of sleep the ff characters world wasn't sleep and even than they put Twewy in there
Just finished, but yeah, as I only played KH2 before, I can say I don't find myself enjoying KH3 as much as I did two. KH2 could still be enjoyed enough without playing the others, but KH3 feels like it's just for the diehard fans (which is fine).
As for the combat, it was fun, but at times way to frustrating with the overly long animations and end game bosses teleporting all over the place. Also screw the underwater combat.
As for the combat, it was fun, but at times way to frustrating with the overly long animations and end game bosses teleporting all over the place. Also screw the underwater combat.