Get lost with this shit
You can imagine a reality where (hypothetically) a Justice Gorsuch is a Roberts-like figure presiding over slow narrowings of Obergefell (à la Roe and Casey) an even more conservative justice votes to blow it up entirely. The goalposts are going to move.I hate this country. I have no hope. I fully expect nationwide laws like gay marriage and 'sodomy' to be next since Alito specifically mentioned them
I'm sorry but RBG not choosing to retire in 09 was extremely silly and even people back then knew it.
The hell are you talking about? I'm referring to your attitude that we should do nothing cause republicans and just change it.
Yes because Ginsburg, and not Trump, put these new justices into power.
I'll never forgive Ruth Bader Ginsburg for her selfishness. She's the precipitating event for all of this
She had multiple battles with cancer. She was very old. You don't need a crystal ball to see an outcome like this. That's why she's was being pressured to retire 10 years agoYou can't honestly expect her to 4D chess and assume a total breakdown on order in 2013. Getting here required conservatives doing great on 2014, 2016, and 2018.
Roe v Wade took about 50 years to overturn so on a similar time scale most of us won't live to see this overruled.
I mean, look who they're quoting. Anyone who worked for Fox News as long as they did is trash.
Fuck off.
You know damn well she should have retired when she had the chance.Yes because Ginsburg, and not Trump, put these new justices into power.
The shit I hate about this is that the most impactful thing he will have ever done in his life and career would be to knowingly push the end to the filibuster for voting rights and codifying Abortion at the expense of his job. If he's worried about money he can be on some stupid news show. Unfortunately, he is not and can just get tossed in the GOP for all I care.No there is no way around that. Joe Manchin is from a state that voted for Trump by 40 points. He has no political incentive at all to end the filibuster and pass legislation that would codify Roe.
Not to single you out but these convos often turn in a "Dems can do something but they just won't!" direction, when the sick reality is that when 1 or 2 senators in an evenly split Senate say no, then that's it. Sometimes there really is no way around it. It's not always a case of Dems as a party being insufficiently "do something" about the problem. In fact it often isn't!
Not a bit. Breyer almost did the same thing but thankfully changed his mind. It's not a comfortable thing to acknowledge, but i really *really* do not want to see a liberal justice make that mistake again.
Cannot believe that in 2022 we still have people unironically throwing around the term berniebro
Lily Maine voters keep lapping it up unfortunately though.
I honestly don't think we'll need to wait that long for other rights. Especially since conservatives and fascists no longer need go play the long game or hide their motives. We are seeing the acceleration of the decline, greater than prior decades.
You know damn well she should have retired when she had the change.
Nah let's keep fighting each other. We're a lot easier to beat on than the Rsmy spicy take is that perhaps instead of blaming the people who did not want this to happen, we should blame the people who have made it their life's mission to make this happen.
So spicy.my spicy take is that perhaps instead of blaming the people who did not want this to happen, we should blame the people who have made it their life's mission to make this happen.
I honestly don't think we'll need to wait that long for other rights. Especially since conservatives and fascists no longer need go play the long game or hide their motives. We are seeing the acceleration of the decline, greater than prior decades.
my spicy take is that perhaps instead of blaming the people who did not want this to happen, we should blame the people who have made it their life's mission to make this happen.
The first round already occurred. The justices are still in conference. It's possible that the reported 5-4 breakdown changes. However, because we can assume that Roberts is in the minority (as in, he's voting against the opinion), that means the senior Associate Justice in the majority -- the one who decides the opinion in this case -- is Clarence Thomas.
It does though. Shit i'm suprised Breyer wised up to the reality of things and retired.
Ok Bro.Cannot believe that in 2022 we still have people unironically throwing around the term berniebro
It's a reasonable consideration. I hope it doesn't turn out to be true, but people will consider their pocketbooks first before anything else.Call me cynical but I think independent voters still vote red because their gas and inflation is too high or they think it's Biden's fault since he's president.
When I said 2016 had repercussions, this wasn't it. Stop this stupid crap.
Call me cynical but I think independent voters still vote red because their gas and inflation is too high or they think it's Biden's fault since he's president.
I blame all the dipshits in Florida that voted for Ralph Nader. In general. Until I die.my spicy take is that perhaps instead of blaming the people who did not want this to happen, we should blame the people who have made it their life's mission to make this happen.
Yep.The grand irony for me continues to be that we on the left waste so much fucking time arguing that we can't do what we see the right do literally every fucking election.
This is why I'm so protective of Black voters. Not JUST because I'm Black myself, but because Black voters are literally THE ONLY Leftist voting block that operates this way. We take our asses out and vote for the D candidate no matter WHO that fucker is.