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Politico: Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows
- Thread starter Smokeymicpot
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Exactly why the news of the GOP floating a new bill to ban abortion nationwide should worry everyone.
Rachel's show had a good point about this. The Court only has power because of their respectability. They have no ability to enforce their opinions on their own. Blatantly doing things like this that makes the public loose total faith in the court as in impartial body is going to have repercussions they can't possibly foresee.
Which ultimately is why I don't think the backlash will be catastrophic here, electorally.
The swing voters that are theoretically most affected by this - suburban white women with moderate-to-high income - aren't really losing much. They either live in blue states, or have the means to visit those blue states if need be. "Roe is the law of the land" is a purely rhetorical distinction - they would LIKE for it to remain, they'll be upset that it's gone, but repealing it has no practical effect on their lives, so how big a deal will it really be? Enough to shift their voting habits? I don't see it.
I'll never forgive Ruth Bader Ginsburg for her selfishness. She's the precipitating event for all of this
Yeah, I was just talking to my wife about this. US will likely continue to slide for the next 30 years, and who knows if we ever see these times again. There is plenty to hate right now but I know things can and will get worse.
People need to realize that the GOP base will largely be massively motivated after seeing this, and although the left will fight it is currently an uphill battle just to not absolutely go to shit in the next two years, and after that, the fight begins again. People are tired, and Dems have not delivered on promises such as codifying Roe, Voting Rights, BBB, Student Loans, as well as of yet there are no real consequence for Jan 6, so I can certainly understand where people are depressed or upset. I know the situations were complex and we had some obstructionists senators. People are tired of fighting like hell just to hold on to what they had before, but our only salvation will be more fighting.
Look to some of the greatest fighters of the past for inspiration such as the civil rights leaders and let's not let their sacrifice be in vain as we have a long and difficult road ahead. The alternative is the continued slide into neo-fascism.
The only thing I see is plausible deniability is gone.
Moderates can't hide behind "both sides" or "The GOP isn't *that* crazy/evil" anymore.
I really hope that people reading this who still have conservative connections in life finally puts it to mind to sever those ties. I don't care if it's your mom or your grandparents or whoever. This is the end result of what these people believe in, and I think my new line in the sand with other people is that if they have conservative people they care about at all in their lives, I'm immediately suspicious of them. I know this isn't the first strike from the GOP (it's like strike 999999999999), but it's a massively high profile moment. I know some people try to not get involved with politics, but conservatism needs to be a blanket non-negotiable for everybody that is disgusted by this news today.
Its amazing how quickly those words lose meaning when Republicans get control of anything.
Why, I could be like Santa! Makin' a list, checkin' it twice, writing down names ten times if they're not nice!
She's not, but Roe also isn't going to be repealed in the timeline where she retired either.
Yes because Ginsburg, and not Trump, put these new justices into power.
Hillary Warned everyone about the threat of a radicalized Supreme Court. It was people like Bernie who said she was hyping up a situation where there wasn't a need to be worried. After Obama was denied his pick of a Justice there should have never been a doubt again about the endgame role of the Supreme Court in GOP politics.
Alito in his writing establishes he supports states banning Sexual Acts deemed inappropriate historically and of course Same Sex. He supports rebanning gay marriage and other "fake rights"
I've said it before, so not to sound like a broken record, but Democrats, the Left, and anyone against this kind of shit need to start labeling the GOP as the American Taliban. Make it fucking stick.
I might have called it a false equivalency a few years ago, but it's almost a foregone conclusion at this point.
I might have called it a false equivalency a few years ago, but it's almost a foregone conclusion at this point.
Republicans want to take us back to 1922. Abortion is just the start. They've been setting up the dominoes for this for the past few decades.
Anyone thinking that Dems aren't going to be pissed off and vote in the midterms is insane. After this shit, those "angry republicans" ain't going to have shit on angry dems. You want young people to vote? This is exactly the type of thing that will make that happens.
We're being dragged into some new dark age and it is pretty demoralizing. Can only pray that Democrats use this to rally for these upcoming midterms and change the vote to 50.
She 100% is. She should have retired, but she choose not too. Her seat directly went to ACB, who is presumably a decind vote, because she didn't retire.
I respect what she did as a justice, but her hubris will undo her life's work and more
Some of ya'll wild. Sure, is she partially at fault, okay cool. What did she have to do with 2016?
Traditionally you new a new country to achieve that. Though honestly it's not far off at this point.
Oh hey i didn't know Sinema posted here.
Birth Control.
I get that people think Ginsburg should've retired earlier. But she also fucking died in her job trying to protect women's rights. Who the hell on this forum would dedicate the end of their life to a job, no matter what the greater good?
People to blame for this decision: Trump, the conservative justices, everyone who voted for Trump, everyone who decided voting in 2016 or 2020 wasn't worth it. Not the actual people doing the hard good work.
No the Senate never went into recess and if he had done that it would have been an unprecedented constitutional crisis that likely would have caused the nominee to not be recognized as a legitimate justice.
I'm sorry but RBG not choosing to retire in 09 was extremely silly and even people back then knew it.
You can't honestly expect her to 4D chess and assume a total breakdown on order in 2013. Getting here required conservatives doing great on 2014, 2016, and 2018.
Ginsburg made the decision, after multiple bouts with life threatening cancer, not to retire under a dem senate majority. As such, she died under a republican majority and was replaced by ACB.
Of course she's to blame for the GOP senate refusing to consider any nominee in 2016 and then rushing a vote 8 days before the 2020 election? She's to blame for believing someone who was leading by 9 points in the polls 2 months before the 2016 election would lose? GTFO.