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Politico: Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows
- Thread starter Smokeymicpot
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Dem's only had a majority in Congress for a very short time thanks to Massachusetts Democrats fucking up big time and running a poor Senate candidate.
That the ACA was passed after Ted Kennedy's death was a miracle.
You can't do that without a constitutional amendment.
At this point, stacking the court is the only option (though you'd have to find a way to get the problem congresspeople on board to even do that). If it means that power has to wax and wane with whenever one party holds the Executive and Legislative, then so be it.
Looking like they know that there are two options: Expand the court or the people are going to open up some seats.
Note: This is not an endorsement for political violence against the conservative justices or any justice of SCOTUS, it is an acknowledgement of the seismic reaction that will happen if this report is to be believed and Roe V Wade gets overturned. People are going to be fucking furious. They're already furious over his leak.
I'd argue fuck the Democratic Party that put all its eggs in her basket even though she wasn't a popular candidate
Oh no, we have angered the Philosopher-kings. Pray that they overlook our indiscretion
The current Supreme Court would just deem that law unconstitutional. We needed 2016. Congress passing a law won't stop this.
Yeah, the leak is going to show the conservative majority that they are going so far right that norms are being broken.
bernie just loves to talk about things that will never happen (like being president)
I genuinely can't fucking fathom existing in a country like this anymore. It's beyond the point of no return.
Well maybe the staff never really liked some of you to begin with.
it's an unprecedented leak, why would they (social media team, staffers) not be concerned?
Hilary Clinton won the vote by 3 million votes, and the presidency was won on the basis of roughly 10,000 votes across a few states. Amazing how that's quickly been forgotten
She won the primary. Should they have simply tossed out that result and gone with someone else?
Guns are expensive, and as well armed as this country is, I guarantee there's a not insignificant portion of the population who would love to be armed to the teeth but can't afford it.
Your average
I'm not saying it's the deciding factor in a civil war, but it's definitely a factor.
She crushed the competition. Why could have ran that you think would have beat her? People don't run unless they think they can win, unless it is for some dumb credibility or notability boost.
In 2013 she was literally the most popular political figure in America. Her numbers getting torn to shreds mostly happened after she locked up the primary, and you are really spreading some really stupid retcon stuff here. She's a complicated political figure out she was extraordinarily popular in the build up to her run. SoS tends to be a super popular position in general.
Fuck Anthony Weiner in particular. I don't think she'd have lost if not for the investigation that was opened up thanks to his...everything.
I understand the anger, but the "Hillary is as bad as Trump" non-voters were just a vocal minority that didn't sway the election. Hillary won the popular vote, it was the electoral college that fucked us. And it's over, there's nothing we can do to change the past. The left needs to let that shit go and come together. I have a great deal of pessimism that will ever happen, but it needs to. We need to finally recognize that the right is our enemy and it isn't fucking around. It is going to take away our rights and establish a full-on Authoritarian state if no one stops it.
I just wish some of the politicians we elect could actually accept that fact and do something about it. I have zero faith that's going to happen, of course.
I just wish some of the politicians we elect could actually accept that fact and do something about it. I have zero faith that's going to happen, of course.
Of course Politico told them they were running the story, it's the biggest story in the history of the court
This was gonna be announced next month anyways. This leak is clearly an attempt to start the pressure now on everyone in government to fix this.
I sure hope the life of these zealots Justices become hell after this.
Sorry I should have clarified, the final votes can still change. As unlikely as that is with the current Court makeup.
Theoretically, could they pass something through reconciliation if Manchin and Sinema (lol hahaha) were interested?
If she was so popular why did she lose all the battleground states
Stop finding excuses to blame democrats instead of the obvious monsters in the room.
It's not forgotten. You are preaching to the choir. We know.
Likely not as the Parliamentarian will rule it's not really about money and they won't overrule them.
Hopefully this begins in earnest the conversation that began in the last Dem primary (driven mostly by, yeah I'm about to say it, Pete Buttigieg)...
This needs to signal the end of the Supreme Court.
I might not ever see it in my lifetime (likely). But this needs to be the moment that the concept of the Supreme Court goes down in history as inherently unhealthy and antithetical to the concept of a functioning democracy.
This needs to signal the end of the Supreme Court.
I might not ever see it in my lifetime (likely). But this needs to be the moment that the concept of the Supreme Court goes down in history as inherently unhealthy and antithetical to the concept of a functioning democracy.
You mean the primary voters that elected her as the party candidate?
Then no one is talking about those people. The system isn't getting changed, it fucking isn't. People are expressing their anger at individuals who said fuck it, and you are up in here saying well you see, its technically the system to blame.
Look, my post is a post of extreme frustration of the party who when we had an open supreme court seat with Obama as president, didnt even actually freak out over it. Nothing on the level of focus and determination that the republican party would have used. But aside from that. I live in Utah, one of the reddest states. I still vote. For every race I can and try to push things in the best direction possible. I vote, I still try even knowing in my particular circumstances that in many races in my State, it is quite literally pointless. I'm not saying give up or dont vote for democrats, I still will. I just have no fucking hope or expectations of them utilizing and mobilizing even on this the most critical of issues. If ever there is a time for a party to go fucking nuclear... it's now. Federal legislation to protect abortion, stack the court, fucking everything. Go for it. Go for it now.
Trump's effective margin of victory was like less than 100,000 votes across several states. So yeah, marginal non-voting populations can be blamed.
Here's the thing, the ONLY solution we have at the moment is to 1.) Go above and beyond the stacked system to gain power and 2.) put so much clarity of focus and pressure on the Democratic Party that they believe their correcting of our democratic and human rights backsliding is the ONLY way for them to maintain power and status.
This is literally the catch 22 almost every backsliding democracy ends up facing. Their opposition is radical, willing to break the rules, the government, and typically has an ingrained and powerful backing that has an almost religious like core of followers devoted to the cause and a more moderate wing eventually willing to bend to them and make common cause. Then contrasted with a opposition that refuses to acknowledge the gravity of the situation and plays by the old rules, and the result is they get destroyed, and when a modest reaction happens after it's already too late, the illiberal extremist party uses that as further justification to crush and outlaw their opposition power.
And we already see the vicious cycle of this ramping up over the last couple decades, and now the Republican Party is fully invested in the project of tilting America irreversibly in their favor through corruption of the system, then using any oppositional victory as a rally to further corrupt it. Not sure how many more cycles we have in us…
Only like 95% of elected Democrats are staunchly pro life, which is way more than the 80% or whatever of Democratic voters.