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Politico: Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows
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Yeah, when Republicans gain federal power the next time they will never give it up bar a civil war and we all know who has more guns
Of course. That's where a lot of this started after all. I highly suggest anyone who hasn't read this to read it, despite the length. It's 17 years old and as relevant as ever.
That article brings up James Dobson of Focus on the Family, one of the people behind, "Love the sinner, hate the sin." One of the most quietly insidious phrases to catch on. Again, this was written in 2005 about things from decades prior, but here is Dobson in 2016 penning an Op-Ed for Christianity Today:
I don't vote for candidates or political parties. I support those who will lead the country righteously, honorably, and wisely. In many ways, this is a single-issue election because it will affect every dimension of American life: the makeup of the Supreme Court. Antonin Scalia's sudden death made this election the most significant of our lifetime. The next president will nominate perhaps three or more justices whose judicial philosophy will shape our country for generations to come.
Unelected, unaccountable, and imperialistic justices have a history of imposing horrendous decisions on the nation. One decision that still plagues us is Roe v. Wade, imposed on America in 1973. It divided the nation and has led to the murders of 54 million innocent babies. This killing goes on every day.
Unfortunately, the article has since been paywalled, but it originally said that as vile a person as he thought Trump was, Christians needed to hold their noses and vote for him to secure the Supreme Court. This has been the plan for decades in the making. The focus will be back on gay marriage soon enough and we'll be lucky if it's just that.
That's my point though, those tiny pockets of blue in the big spots of red ARE heavily populated. Millions and millions of people live in them, despite the states they're located in being red, potentially deep red. Hypothetically, if the US as we knew it collapsed and the states were seceding from each other again, what's the answer for everyone stuck in pretty much any city in the south? Are they going to be left to fend for themselves? Is the north going to miraculously have enough housing to cover the huge influx of refugees?
"Solving" 2022 America is a lot more complicated than just saying "Blue states should leave the union".
Do you think somebody would do that? Just go to the NYT and tell lies?
This was always their end game. Not surprising at all. The moment Hillary lost this was all in motion. For those of you who didn't vote for her because she didn't meet a particular liberal litmus test I put just as much blame on you. Just ridiculous.
Fortunately being in Washington we will have a state government that will fight for us. For those in red states I hope you fight like hell.
Fortunately being in Washington we will have a state government that will fight for us. For those in red states I hope you fight like hell.
I know you think you're helping, but this kind of doomposting is not helpful. Dems winning the White House in 2016 would have prevented this.
The difference between living in a red state vs living in a blue state is life or death for some young women.
You're in for a rude awakening if you think fair elections with respected results are gonna be a thing once the Republicans are back in control. They showed their intentions in 2020, they want control over the country even if that means turning the country into a dictatorship.
go read some history on backsliding democracies that are hitting all the landmarks we are and let me know how many actually magically reverse the trends to become highly functioning democracies without either hitting failed state/authoritarian status or requiring outside intervention.
The prevailing argument for why America won't end up like any number of post WWI European, South American, Central American, Post Soviet, and Eastern European countries that backslid into authoritarianism or illiberal democracy essentially comes down to: America is just better….It's not a strong argument
We, the majority of voters, didn't. The rigged system just did what it was rigged to do.
And this is why not voting has consequences.
Republicans played the long game while liberals were only concerned with the short term.
Fuck everything.
Republicans played the long game while liberals were only concerned with the short term.
Fuck everything.
He told that to the Senate during the hearings, the NYTimes just reported it.
Been visited by the Secret Service once in my life. Behaving so I dont get seen again :p
I would agree with you in broad strokes for most times before the 21st century.
As of now the continuing climate catastrophe for me is both ahistorical and allows for backsliding on a rather unprecedented scale potentially. We can lose like we never have before.
Well, it's gonna be quite a time in any case
Fucking awful shit, but I'm definitely of the mind that whoever leaked this wanted to fuck up the GOP's timeline narrative for this whole thing.
Oh well in that case, we've got nothing to worry about.
Nobody EVER lied at the Senate!
gotta play to the conservative religious streak in black voters, blunt some of the backlash
Heads up:
If in a moment this perilous; a moment where the "Bad Guy" has never been clearer...you can still only fix your fingers to talk about how much the Democrats suck?
You need to step away from your computer, or your mobile device...and find the nearest mirror to take a long hard look in.
If in a moment this perilous; a moment where the "Bad Guy" has never been clearer...you can still only fix your fingers to talk about how much the Democrats suck?
You need to step away from your computer, or your mobile device...and find the nearest mirror to take a long hard look in.
I mean, sure, but the Russian army certainly had more guns than the Ukrainians, yet they are getting smoked. It's about competency.
Funny, I personally knew three people that also said the system was broken (who didn't start saying that until late in the Dem primary), and rather than attempt to do anything they chose to sit at home in their swing state (Florida).
I don't talk to them anymore.
We are definitely not on the level of the Ukrainians. But I agree with this point
I don't think those 3 foot tall portable barriers are going to stop anyone.
Literally none of the mechanisms that lead to failed states exists in the US. The US has a strong economy, welfare policies, freedom of speech, strong geopolitical relations and a crazy amount of checks to political overreach. In fact, some of laws that hinder the US from progressing also prevent it from collapsing. You have to be oblivious to history to not realize the regular loop the US is and has always been in
A long time ago a bunch of old idiots made a bunch of stupid decisions and one of them was giving representation to invisible boundary lines drawn on a map and now we all pay the price for it.
This system is still broken. I vote but I know my work outside the political process is much more impactful in my community.
While history may gives us hints in many ways, I don't think we should pretend that it can't happen here. It can and has. Now, how far will it slide? We don't know.
Might as well not even bother. The first thing this stuff brings out is attacking the voters, despite the majority of them doing what they were supposed to do. It's clear that most of these people will never point the finger where it belongs.
This is a weak gatcha attempt, and does nothing at all to address anything I said. But keep attacking the voters. For the system is perfect, and forever shall be
They have so many guns because they are afraid. When you put the pressure on them, they'll break. We've seen it with Militia members, Capitol Rioters, etc. They're bullies. You just have to deck the biggest one in the room.
Like, theoretically, at best, a conservative "gun nut" could dual wield two guns at once. Having a massive gun collection isn't going to suddenly give someone an upper hand.