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Cool. I better not see you around here bitching and moaning if trump wins. A few republican cabinet members >>>>>>>>>>>> Trump and his fascist regime. And it's very important for Joe to reestablish norms and "reach across parties" (it's all lip service) after this mess of an administration.
but that's cool stay at home. You do you I guess.
Yeaaah...the prospect that a fascist like Trump wins and practically plunges our country into civil war over the next 4 years is at the forefront of my mind at this point first and foremost.
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His post is exactly what is going on. Meanwhile, we have first page hot post immediately coming in to shit on Biden from just the title. It happens every time in threads like this.
How it works, I've seen, is that it is never the right time to criticize the relatively left candidate.
You're right, liberals will never accept criticism of Biden.
Just look at how they react when you talk about drone in chief Obama, his love of fracking, his refusal to adjust minimum wage, his republican healthcare plan designed to bail out insurance companies, ect.
Are you one of those people that think the Lincoln Project are no longer Republicans and good people?
This makes sense for Joe's platform. He's a plain-spoken dude and his whole approach to his presidency will be de-escalating tensions across the country.
That example comes from the top. If the top tiers of our government can't come together and work together, what kind of example does that set for the rest of the country and the smaller communities it consists of?
I have faith in Joe to root out the foulest parts of the Republican party (white supremacy, Qanon, etc) and hopefully put in place the right people from both sides to set an example for the country.
That example comes from the top. If the top tiers of our government can't come together and work together, what kind of example does that set for the rest of the country and the smaller communities it consists of?
I have faith in Joe to root out the foulest parts of the Republican party (white supremacy, Qanon, etc) and hopefully put in place the right people from both sides to set an example for the country.
Please tell me this is fake, and not from Warren.:format(webp)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/66425505/Screen_Shot_2020_03_03_at_11.43.07_AM.0.png)
Absofuckinglutely hilarious.
All republicans are hard right and have been for 20 years. I assume he's not going to appoint the Trumper Qanon fringe, but if you look at what counted as a moderate republican in 1980, everyone with those positions are Dems now.
Yeah, fuck this. Hoping this is just BS campaigning to moderates and when it's actually appointing time none of these will come to pass. The whole party is tainted, and really we should stop playing into public perceptions that Republicans are better at the economy and national security and law enforcement by giving them token positions in those jobs. Democrats won, Dems should get the jobs, and there are lots of Dems who either built their own coalitions running for President this year or who have worked hard campaigning for Biden who deserve them.
I get wanting to reward your backers, and these sorts of Never Trumpers are a small but important part of Biden's coalition, but there's no cabinet secretary's portfolio that would really be safe from a Republican. Even the sort of lower tier offices, are you going to give a Republican Housing and expect them to implement a massive expansion of Section 8 housing and pushes against single-family exclusive zoning? Are you going to trust a Republican with Transportation when you're talking about massive expansions of rail as an environmental project? Trust them with Health when you're trying to build a public option? Those are all moderate, middle-of-the-road Biden plans that none of even the most moderate of Republicans could be trusted with.
And really, given their relative importance's to the coalition, if Never Trump Republicans are getting a lower cabinet post, the left should probably be talking about getting one of the big four to a certified lefty. Like, Liz Warren as Treasury at a minimum.
I get wanting to reward your backers, and these sorts of Never Trumpers are a small but important part of Biden's coalition, but there's no cabinet secretary's portfolio that would really be safe from a Republican. Even the sort of lower tier offices, are you going to give a Republican Housing and expect them to implement a massive expansion of Section 8 housing and pushes against single-family exclusive zoning? Are you going to trust a Republican with Transportation when you're talking about massive expansions of rail as an environmental project? Trust them with Health when you're trying to build a public option? Those are all moderate, middle-of-the-road Biden plans that none of even the most moderate of Republicans could be trusted with.
And really, given their relative importance's to the coalition, if Never Trump Republicans are getting a lower cabinet post, the left should probably be talking about getting one of the big four to a certified lefty. Like, Liz Warren as Treasury at a minimum.
Literally not what this is about.
But let me ask you a question. What do you think comes after Trump? Those people aren't going anywhere, and you can either destroy their institution and leave them to their own QAnon devices or try to fix the rubble.
Biden is going about this well.
He's the most progressive candidate in years, they said. We can push him left, they said.
Get ready for 4 years of this shit and constantly getting told to shut up and not complain because the Cheeto is gone. Followed by 2022 being an absolute massacre and Dan Crenshaw or Tom Cotton running on a platform of actual genocide in 2024.
Get ready for 4 years of this shit and constantly getting told to shut up and not complain because the Cheeto is gone. Followed by 2022 being an absolute massacre and Dan Crenshaw or Tom Cotton running on a platform of actual genocide in 2024.
I'm just saying this from the perspective that he hasn't been elected yet. I know he has a good chance but still.
Ok. His admin picks will be announced after he's already in office lol
People who disagree with you aren't just posting unreasonable hot takes lmao
I dont think the post I quoted was reasonable at all and you've got the entire history of the Republican party to show why it's unreasonable!
Yeah I hate to say it but this is true. That one guy in the town hall who asked that dumb question about taking the high road and not holding a grudge....there are a lot of voters like that unfortunately.
I still think Biden is a fool for trying to play bipartisan
nope. but i also don't see anything wrong with optics posts in positions of very little power. politics is a game of images; we don't even know for sure if he will actually post anybody to any of these positions or if this is all smoke.
Obama tried to reach across the aisle and failed at a time where Republicans were less radical than they are today. What makes you think that a more radical party will be more receptive to this?
What would you consider a position of very little power in Biden's cabinet?
And they wonder why people like me call liberals useless
Unless you're interested in dismantling the GOP and what they stand for, you're not helpful in this day and age. They don't deserve any benefit of the doubt. Yet liberals will keep giving it to them regardless because civility and appearances are the only shit they actually care about.
Unless you're interested in dismantling the GOP and what they stand for, you're not helpful in this day and age. They don't deserve any benefit of the doubt. Yet liberals will keep giving it to them regardless because civility and appearances are the only shit they actually care about.
Liberalism is hand-sitting while centrists court conservatives. It's no mystery why the Republican party won't die.
It's mildly amusing that thinking having a diverse cabinet with broader appeal is a bad thing.
Most people fall closer to centrist / moderate than touch the sides of the political spectrum, that has obviously shifted under the era of Trump but you don't win a second term if you don't have broader appeal.
It may sound crazy but picking people the most qualified for a given job and creating a stable administration goes a long way towards creating long term success.
Most people fall closer to centrist / moderate than touch the sides of the political spectrum, that has obviously shifted under the era of Trump but you don't win a second term if you don't have broader appeal.
It may sound crazy but picking people the most qualified for a given job and creating a stable administration goes a long way towards creating long term success.
This is and always has been Biden. There isn't that much ideological clarity but he is very centrist, not surprising he would appeal to Republicans, probably to some degree on terms they understand. He always said he would.
Remember when people lost their minds because he made mention of being open to GOP candidates for VP? I do.
I think we need to learn this lesson. Democrats are Lucy with the football and we're Charlie Brown
Yeah it was a shirt sold like some months back on his store, but not anymore. Best I can do you is an archived reddit post with a direct link to the store and a thumbnail of the shirt.
The post is more reasonable than all of those driveby posts in the first 10 seconds of the thread. Same with the "I'm not a huge fan of court stacking" thread, and any other thread that is the same vein. If you don't even read what the article says or what Biden says, and don't maybe consider what he is considering, it's just a blanket hot take.
How pathetic and subservient would Joe have to be to actually spend his time as President redeeming the opposition party instead of helping the people said party wants dead?
Incredible how the Biden Brigade will try and spin anything as him playing 5D chess with right wingers lol. Can't be that he's just a typical moderate who is deftly out of touch with how the GOP has turned hard right into full fascism and actually still believes in some fantasy of "reaching across the aisle" despite being a VP to a President who the GOP routinely shit on when he did so.
Nah, can't be. It's 5D Chess. Imagine there will be pictures of him having a fun and causal dinner with McConnell and people will call him the greatest tactician in political history.
And the responses here are so predictable. "Oh my God, do you want 4 more years of Trump!?!?!" Yeah, yeah, we know, everyone knows. But not everyone is going to play your pretend that Biden is something that he clearly isn't.
Nah, can't be. It's 5D Chess. Imagine there will be pictures of him having a fun and causal dinner with McConnell and people will call him the greatest tactician in political history.
And the responses here are so predictable. "Oh my God, do you want 4 more years of Trump!?!?!" Yeah, yeah, we know, everyone knows. But not everyone is going to play your pretend that Biden is something that he clearly isn't.
Just about all except Trump, really. But with the past four years it'd almost certainly have to be a never-Trumper.
The foot forward is bipartisan, but it's very clear also that if Republicans just want to obstruct and Dems have the power to run them over, they will do so to get things done. That's where the party is, and-again-Biden if anything is a creature of the party.
As a Canadian, the one thing i learned about the US is you are ALWAYS voting, like constantly. in 2 years you will have a chance to vote in the mid-terms.
This election has ALWAYS been about shoring up support among never-trumpers, independents, soft republicans. It has always been a diverse poliitcal coalition campaign. Why is this shocking at this point? You MUST eject trump and his cabinet by any means before you have the luxury of being idealists.
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