Police murder 13 year old boy in chicago.

Deleted member 93805 · Apr 16, 2021

What's up with cops being so twitchy and scared to the point they gun down kids? Police forces need some regular mental health assessments to keep cops like this off the streets.

Kids were also shot in the face with beanbag guns last year during the George Floyd protests. This country fucking sucks. Between half a million dead from covid and no real consequences from insecure cops killing minorities, the general public and politicians are mostly talking about "getting back to normal" which just means resuming mass consumerism. Shit that really matters, like saving lives, is not getting better.

Something Creative · Apr 16, 2021

Guddha said:
Fucking swine are lashing out because one of their fellow murderers might be punished for his crimes.

They protect and serve white supremacy; they oppress and murder everyone else.

I watched the whole video and that was maybe the most explicit one of these I've seen. Feeling sick for how graphic it was, but super fucking angry and upset after seeing a cop ask for him to show his hands and then once he does shoots him dead. If that were a white kid he'd trust that he wasn't in danger.

Mahonay · Apr 16, 2021

Morolian said:
What's up with cops being so twitchy and scared to the point they gun down kids? Police forces need some regular mental health assessments to keep cops like this off the streets.

Kids were also shot in the face with beanbag guns last year during the George Floyd protests. This country fucking sucks. Between half a million dead from covid and no real consequences from insecure cops killing minorities, the general public and politicians are mostly talking about "getting back to normal" which just means resuming mass consumerism. Shit that really matters, like saving lives, is not getting better.

The cops are literally trained this way. This is working as intended.

Also you are very right on the second part and it's fucking depressing

construct · Apr 16, 2021

people can only watch the system fuck up so many times before starting to ask why we have to follow rules at all

Something Creative · Apr 16, 2021

Morolian said:
What's up with cops being so twitchy and scared to the point they gun down kids? Police forces need some regular mental health assessments to keep cops like this off the streets.

And if they can't fucking help it then they should not be chasing down suspects like this. If the adrenaline from running and the risk of interpreting a hand as a dangerous weapon is so high then just don't go after them.

So, body cams document. They may actually tip the scales a bit since they provide explicit evidence. But is there any data suggested they have helped prevent these sorts of incidents at all?

SpaceBridge · Apr 16, 2021

Morolian said:
What's up with cops being so twitchy and scared to the point they gun down kids? Police forces need some regular mental health assessments to keep cops like this off the streets.

cops should be regularly tested for drugs and anabolic steroids and promptly terminated. Some of the videos I've seen are reminiscent of roid rage and uncontrollable anger. Also I dunno but I don't think these hogs aren't taking uppers, and stimulants.

Deleted member 7092 · Apr 16, 2021

Cops sure are pregaming hard for the upcoming one-year anniversary of Floyd's execution

On another fun note, a recent you gov poll shows that 57% of Americans currently think Floyd's killer is guilty. Instead of, y'know, the 95%+ it should be if we lived in anything resembling a just society. And I bet you'll never guess which political affiliation is least likely to think that!

The trial of Derek Chauvin: Most Americans believe he should be found guilty | YouGov

Most Americans (57%) believe Derek Chauvin should be found guilty of murder – more than three times as many as say he should not (18%).

today.yougov.com

I really don't know what to do with all of this existential anger and futility. Thank God I'm starting therapy again tomorrow

PiranhaMan · Apr 16, 2021

I wonder if anyone has ever done a police officer watchlist to keep an eye on all of the officers who commit these horrible acts.

SpaceBridge · Apr 16, 2021

Today has been exhausting. The comments online of bootlicking cucks defending terrorist pigs is just soul draining.

have good night Era.

dabig2 · Apr 16, 2021

Morolian said:
What's up with cops being so twitchy and scared to the point they gun down kids? Police forces need some regular mental health assessments to keep cops like this off the streets.

They've shown the ability for trigger discipline and de-escalations in many situations; it's just not usually afforded black people. Black children especially get it bad.

Cops gave Tamir Rice (12) only 1.7 sec before killing him
Cops gave Adam Toledo (13) only .8 sec before killing him
Cops gave Aiyana Jones (7) only 0 sec before killing her

But for the adult mass murderers of Parkland, Aurora, Atlanta, & Charleston—Cops arrested them all alive

Jeffapp · Apr 16, 2021

It's unbelievable that people can still support the police and not hold them accountable. One street light out and they confuse you for a black teenager or a glitch in the computer saying you once did something and your dead. it's as simple as that.
the police have become judge jury and executioner by reading your history on a computer screen.

I once got pulled over because the cop saw me drop off a drunk friend waited for me to pull out after 15 minutes. He then harassed my passenger about him being intoxicated and made me get out of the car to do the whole drunk test. After 15 calm minutes of me proving I didn't drink I put my ID in my pocket and when I put my hands inmy pocket he pulled his gun on me. It was the scariest moment of my life and I'm probably only alive cause I'm white.

Kin5290 · Apr 16, 2021

Yeah, that cop knew that he fucked up as well. That kid did everything the cop told him to do and he still shot him. And it doesn't matter that there was a gun. To go to an extreme that kid could have been shooting at random people or even the police previously but the second he drops the gun and puts his hands up he is surrendering, and killing him is an execution, not self defense.

What you see in that bodycam video is an execution.

Rotkehle · Apr 16, 2021

Fercho said:
Wait this thread died 3 weeks ago and nobody cared until the footage was released?

from an outside perspective those cases in the USA are to frequently to always react accordingly. In my childhood and early teen years I was a big USA fan. It right I wouldn't visit this country even if Someone gifts me the plane tickets.
I do not want to visit a country where stuff like this is happening every day. It's kind of domestic state controlled terrorism.
I would not feel safe in the USA.

Deleted member 15240 · Apr 16, 2021

The fact that the police are such a trusted institution, with a large segment of the population defending, rationalizing, and justifying whatever they do, when they are so obviously a gang of racist lying murders is so fucking infuriating. Infuriating doesn't even cover it, I don't know a word powerful enough to really capture how enraged this shit makes me. Just the utter fucking racism of a diseased society where black lives are so dehumanized and so hated that tv channels with huge audiences and big budgets will spend hours trying to defame the victims in shootings. Not even children are spared. And then any response by black people to this state-sponsored violence is met immediately with criticism. The racists on the right criticize even the mildest forms of protest while even on the far left some criticize the destruction of property. Well honestly, and I don't care if this is bannable, be happy with just the simple destruction of property because terrorism would be an actual justified response to this terrorism by the state. White people have been called heroes for violently fighting back against lesser injustices. In a just world people would be defending and justifying what Christopher Dorner did, like they now do for murderous police officers, and spend hours defaming his victims on TV.

Jorav · Apr 16, 2021

While the cop was out of line for shooting almost instantly, are we not going to question why a 13 year old had a gun and was out at 3am?

Something Creative · Apr 16, 2021

Jorav said:
While the cop was out of line for shooting almost instantly, are we not going to question why a 13 year old had a gun and was out at 3am?

Let's say you ask that question. Let's say you get an answer. The fuck does it matter?

"out of line" jfc are you for real

Sai · Apr 16, 2021

Jorav said:
While the cop was out of line for shooting almost instantly, are we not going to question why a 13 year old had a gun and was out at 3am?

It literally doesn't matter. You and I both know the cops don't give a shit about the time when it comes to shooting people who are complying with them.

Deleted member 26591 · Apr 16, 2021

This is now quite high on the BBC which is, tbh, fairly unusual - kind of shows how awful it truly is. I watched the BBC video where it black screens at the shot but fucking hell, it's so traumatic.

If that officer isn't charged with out and out murder I don't know what to say anymore. He was CLEARLY unarmed. This was a "shoot first ask questions later" scenario but detuned to the "shoot first look later". Absolute fucking murder.

America, you policing is fucking shit and needs to be completely reformed.

Your police training is clearly fucked, the people entering the service are clearly fucked. First step - stop ex-military joining. They have no place and their training and brain washing is completely inappropriate in law enforcement.

Jorav said:
While the cop was out of line for shooting almost instantly, are we not going to question why a 13 year old had a gun and was out at 3am?

"Hey, just asking questions"

Fuck off with this shit. Why shouldn't he be out at 3am? There a curfew noone told me about? And did he see a gun in the .8 seconds he put a bullet in this kid? No he fucking didn't.

Jesus christ.

Advance.Wars.Sgt. · Apr 16, 2021

Tragic, depressing, and infuriating news. Policing institution has long since been past due for abolishment.

Powdered Egg · Apr 16, 2021

Jorav said:
While the cop was out of line for shooting almost instantly, are we not going to question why a 13 year old had a gun and was out at 3am?

Because CHI failed him. He would be asleep getting ready for school the next day if he were as lucky as you are.

Arkanim94 · Apr 16, 2021

Jorav said:
While the cop was out of line for shooting almost instantly, are we not going to question why a 13 year old had a gun and was out at 3am?

listen up, user with just 127 posts in 4 years.
it doesn't matter, the situation change but the outcome is always the same: one time they have a toy gun, other times they "smelled of weed", other times they "act erratically", other times they didn't follow commands in the millisecond the police gave them before shooting them.
the common denominators are always the same, the victims are poc and the police "fear for their lives" and killed them with no second thought.
it doesn't matter in what mental or social condition the victim was, because it is sure as hell that the police doesn't give a shit about it.

mbpm · Apr 16, 2021

IIRC, someone said the teen was roped into something by an older bad influence.

Either way, it really doesn't matter. Whatever he was up to he surrendered and was shot by an animal.

jml · Apr 16, 2021

Jorav said:
While the cop was out of line for shooting almost instantly, are we not going to question why a 13 year old had a gun and was out at 3am?

Are you fucking kidding me

KCroxtonJr · Apr 16, 2021

Jorav said:
While the cop was out of line for shooting almost instantly, are we not going to question why a 13 year old had a gun and was out at 3am?

Would the answer justify the kid being executed instantly after complying with the officer and surrendering?

Stop looking for excuses to justify wrongdoing.

Jorav · Apr 16, 2021

Something Creative said:
Let's say you ask that question. Let's say you get an answer. The fuck does it matter?
"out of line" jfc are you for real

I am "for real" because the US has multiple failings within its system that allows for this shit to happen.

NomadPete said:
Fuck off with this shit. Why shouldn't he be out at 3am? There a curfew noone told me about? And did he see a gun in the .8 seconds he put a bullet in this kid? No he fucking didn't.

Jesus christ.

If i was out at 3am at that age i'd be given hell by my parents. I can not think of a reason for a 13 year old to be out at that time but whatever. You're ignoring the fact that he had a fuckin gun, sure he dropped it. But a KID had a GUN, like wtf.

Arkanim94 said:
listen up, user with just 127 posts in 4 years.

because posts number counts for what? Get fucked. This is the exact reason why i don't post. An opinion is voiced and it automatically shot down.

KCroxtonJr said:
Would the answer justify the kid being executed instantly after complying with the officer and surrendering?

Stop looking for excuses to justify wrongdoing.

I literally said the cop was out of line for shooting him. I am trying to raise the point that ya'll need to look at the whole situation and not fixate on the end result. You have a police system formulated on a military style complex where US residents are deemed the enemy, you have a terrible education system and literally no support for disadvantaged kids which has them out at night with access to firearms.

Memento Mori · Apr 16, 2021

Cuomo Prime Time had an unbelievable interview with the head of the Chicago Police Union who said both that the cop should have shot the kid more times and it was irrelevant that he didn't have the gun in his hand when he was shot. He then blamed the kid for being in a gang and the schools for not being open. I was in disbelief.

Unclebenny · Apr 16, 2021

Jorav said:
I literally said the cop was out of line for shooting him. I am trying to raise the point that ya'll need to look at the whole situation and not fixate on the end result. You have a police system formulated on a military style complex where US residents are deemed the enemy, you have a terrible education system and literally no support for disadvantaged kids which has them out at night with access to firearms.

What you are saying is what everyone else is saying but everyone is else isn't trying to shift the blame onto the child for getting shot while unarmed.

The kid didn't have a gun when they shot him and was only suspected of having a gun prior to that. He was doing what they asked.

If you want to come here and act sanctimonious, at least think your talking points through. You can't both demand everyone look at the bigger picture while questioning the motives of a kid in this one case. Especially when millions of people are watching this kid get shot as they wake up this morning.

19thCenturyFox · Apr 16, 2021

He was unarmed, he had his hands above his head as instructed and he is now dead. Anything beyond that doesn't play into this. Nothing this kid did gives a pig a free pass at shooting him in that situation, nothing. Not when they took Dylann Roof in alive after what he did, not when we see mass shooters escorted to police cars at a leisurely pace over and over again.

Deleted member 41520 · Apr 16, 2021

SpaceBridge said:
cops should be regularly tested for drugs and anabolic steroids and promptly terminated. Some of the videos I've seen are reminiscent of roid rage and uncontrollable anger. Also I dunno but I don't think these hogs aren't taking uppers, and stimulants.

Well observed, that. Can imagine it's endemic. Even just substance abuse to cope with the stress of the role.

kiaaa · Apr 16, 2021

Jorav said:
If i was out at 3am at that age i'd be given hell by my parents. I can not think of a reason for a 13 year old to be out at that time but whatever. You're ignoring the fact that he had a fuckin gun, sure he dropped it. But a KID had a GUN, like wtf.

When has a parent giving a kid hell ever stopped them from doing something? I snuck out all the time to do drink with my friends at 15. Kids do stupid shit.

Incidentally, we got arrested once and one of the cops slammed my buddy's head against the squad car because we weren't answering questions. I guess that would be justifiable for you because we shouldn't have been out at 3 am, though, right?

LordRuyn · Apr 16, 2021

Jorav said:
While the cop was out of line for shooting almost instantly, are we not going to question why a 13 year old had a gun and was out at 3am?

I don't always reply to these threads because I am not American, but I really hope you are either being sarcastic or joking and forgot the "/s"

Spork4000 · Apr 16, 2021

Jorav said:
While the cop was out of line for shooting almost instantly, are we not going to question why a 13 year old had a gun and was out at 3am?

Bruh...... why in the hell would we care?

Couleurs · Apr 16, 2021

Jorav said:
While the cop was out of line for shooting almost instantly, are we not going to question why a 13 year old had a gun and was out at 3am?

He's no angel, amirite?

PAFenix · Apr 16, 2021

Jorav said:
I am "for real" because the US has multiple failings within its system that allows for this shit to happen.

Ok.

Jorav said:
If i was out at 3am at that age i'd be given hell by my parents. I can not think of a reason for a 13 year old to be out at that time but whatever. You're ignoring the fact that he had a fuckin gun, sure he dropped it. But a KID had a GUN, like wtf.

Yeah, wtf?! It's not like we've had plenty of examples of mass shooters with GUNS(plural) that were somehow taken in alive by cops. But subduing a 13 year old is too fuckin hard.

Jorav said:
because posts number counts for what? Get fucked. This is the exact reason why i don't post. An opinion is voiced and it automatically shot down.

Because your opinion is victim blaming bullshit.

Jorav said:
I literally said the cop was out of line for shooting him. I am trying to raise the point that ya'll need to look at the whole situation and not fixate on the end result. You have a police system formulated on a military style complex where US residents are deemed the enemy, you have a terrible education system and literally no support for disadvantaged kids which has them out at night with access to firearms.

Pretty sure everyone is aware of how the system has failed disadvantaged kids.

KCroxtonJr · Apr 16, 2021

Jorav said:
I literally said the cop was out of line for shooting him. I am trying to raise the point that ya'll need to look at the whole situation and not fixate on the end result. You have a police system formulated on a military style complex where US residents are deemed the enemy, you have a terrible education system and literally no support for disadvantaged kids which has them out at night with access to firearms.

What an absolutely ridiculous point, and completely unnecessary to even try to raise in a situation like this. Congrats on being a part of the problem.

Aurongel · Apr 16, 2021

I'm not sure how much of a discussion there is here without the body cam footage. If the kid actually had the gun on him then that unfortunately makes this pretty open and shut from the perspective of reasonable force in America - as shitty as that is. The cops will have no issue convincing a jury of that if it were to go to trial. I'm guessing they're not releasing it due to the age of the victim?

PAFenix · Apr 16, 2021

Aurongel said:
I'm not sure how much of a discussion there is here without the body cam footage. If the kid actually had the gun on him then that unfortunately makes this pretty open and shut from the perspective of reasonable force in America - as shitty as that is. The cops will have no issue convincing a jury of that if it were to go to trial. I'm guessing they're not releasing it due to the age of the victim?

I'm guessing you only read the OP and not the more recent updated posts. The cam footage was finally released, or it leaked.

It showed that the kid had complied and dropped the gun, turned around with hands raised. (Hands were shown empty) He was then shot and killed.

SpaceBridge · Apr 16, 2021

Jiminy said:
Well observed, that. Can imagine it's endemic. Even just substance abuse to cope with the stress of the role.

Yeah, are cops not regularly tested for drugs and anabolics?

DigitalOp · Apr 16, 2021

Jorav said:
While the cop was out of line for shooting almost instantly, are we not going to question why a 13 year old had a gun and was out at 3am?

only you care about that question, Cracka

Aurongel · Apr 16, 2021

PAFenix said:
I'm guessing you only read the OP and not the more recent updated posts. The cam footage was finally released, or it leaked.

It showed that the kid had complied and dropped the gun, turned around with hands raised. (Hands were shown empty) He was then shot and killed.

Appreciate the correction, thanks. This could use a thread mark.

EDIT: That footage looks like a pretty blatant example of officer panic.

Kill3r7 · Apr 16, 2021

I don't understand how the prosecutor blatantly lied. Especially given the circumstances and video evidence.

coldsagging · Apr 16, 2021

Despicable beyond words. Fuck the lot of them.

darkwing · Apr 16, 2021

Astral said:
Me before clicking the thread:

"Let me guess. He was black."

Sigh. I'm fucking tired.

me too, so sad

Zor · Apr 16, 2021

Jorav said:
While the cop was out of line for shooting almost instantly, are we not going to question why a 13 year old had a gun and was out at 3am?

"Out of line".

Jesus fucking Christ.

Socivol · Apr 16, 2021

Lori and those fake ass tears. Her ass is done in this city. You can't run on accountability for the police force and then have them kill a 13 year old and try to blame the issue on guns in the street.

52club · Apr 16, 2021

I'm thinking it is going to be a rough weekend in the Chicago area. It is wild the prior mayor had a similar situation, and someone who appears to be totally different gets elected. And yet...

Deleted member 1086 · Apr 16, 2021

Jorav said:
While the cop was out of line for shooting almost instantly, are we not going to question why a 13 year old had a gun and was out at 3am?

no. If he was still alive sure we can ask that question all day long. But since he was murdered I don't think that matters much.

Socivol · Apr 16, 2021

52club said:
I'm thinking it is going to be a rough weekend in the Chicago area. It is wild the prior mayor had a similar situation, and someone who appears to be totally different gets elected. And yet...

What makes this so much worse is she ran in a platform of POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY and has done nothing in the last two years to hold them accountable. Last summer during protests which turned into looting there was a whole group of cops that broke into a Congressman's office to chill out. Looting was happening outside and they were kicking it. Not a single one was fired for dereliction of duty. It is completely absurd.

Kill3r7 · Apr 16, 2021

52club said:
I'm thinking it is going to be a rough weekend in the Chicago area. It is wild the prior mayor had a similar situation, and someone who appears to be totally different gets elected. And yet...

Socivol said:
What makes this so much worse is she ran in a platform of POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY and has done nothing in the last two years to hold them accountable. Last summer during protests which turned into looting there was a whole group of cops that broke into a Congressman's office to chill out. Looting was happening outside and they were kicking it. Not a single one was fired for dereliction of duty. It is completely absurd.

I am not from Chicago but we keep electing officials from the same pool of candidates and expect different results.

Mezentine · Apr 16, 2021

Kill3r7 said:
I am not from Chicago but we keep electing officials from the same pool of candidates and expect different results.

That's the thing, she also was a genuine outsider. Like, not part of the Chicago political machine at all. Its fucking ridiculous. I voted for her opponent, a woman who has been in Chicago politics for years, and I genuinely believe she would have at least handled this better. Lightfoot is just a mess

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