Poland plans to make censoring of social media accounts illegal
Following Trump’s Twitter ban, Polish government wants to protect posts that do not violate nation’s laws
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Poland plans to make censoring of social media accounts illegal (In response to Trump twitter ban)
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"We must be allowed to post anything!"
ALSO
"You must control what people post!"
EDIT: Apologies, meant to edit this into my original post. Never mind.
Only thing I agree is the part about EU law where hate speech must become illegal. Twitter/Facebook/etc. should just leave Poland.
That one is really ease. Huge parts of TOS are invalid in the EU, although it is usually the parts that are bad for consumers.
The EU proposal simply moves the decision on "what to block" from companies to the law.
So how do they think this will work? Like, should no service be able to ban any individual in their opinion regardless of what they do? Should services be able to have any terms and conditions at all?
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I think their reasoning is, rule for normal people, but their "politician" so the rule should not apply to them.
Oh, fuck off, Poland. It wasn't "Censored", he was responsible for 5 deaths and a load of chaos, and he broke Twitter's rules. Poland is literally assisting fascism with this shit.Poland plans to make censoring of social media accounts illegal
Following Trump’s Twitter ban, Polish government wants to protect posts that do not violate nation’s laws
LMAO if they manage to pull of anything in regards to people getting banned and they will try to fine Facebook (lol) or something, then the social media platform will probably deactivate in Poland for the time of the law conflict - and that would be a beautiful disaster :D
Right wing parties around the world have weaponized social media to spread their agenda. Without Twitter/Facebook/etc. PiS has only state media, watched mainly by older folks, as the only channel to distribute their propaganda, so yeah, not gonna happen. Besides, I'm sure tech giants are more than happy to have a law that takes them of the hook of responsibility.
Polish government IS fascist. Watch this video of Cody explaining what fascism is, it's 100% applies to PiS
When will these right wing nutjobs realize getting banned from your platform is not censorship?
Jesus that's so goddamn stupid
Jesus that's so goddamn stupid
I see an opportunity here. Let's make ResetEra Gold actually ResetEra but hosted in Poland.
Yeah definitely. Social Media has been successfully used by right-wing parties to spread their hate and the results paid off in the mid-2010s. Right-wing parties were not only a joke but remarkably small prior to that with only a tiny group of (mostly elderly) people supporting and spewing the nonsense. The types of people you'd physically distance yourself from if you happen to be in conversation with them in real life. With social media, that faux pas experience/feeling was removed and the bullshit content became as easily available/acceptable as a menu from a takeaway.
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It's pretty fucking annoying that this is what governments are focusing on in terms of service from companies now instead of focusing on making more of the bullshit in ToS illegal in their countries. Right wing fucks have used social media for their gain so much that they hate the idea of it being taken from them finally. Poland has really made a lot of shit decisions over the years and the streak continues it seems.
As for people in here asking how they can make ToS illegal, easily, there are huge amounts of ToS that these companies have that would be illegal in other places outside the USA. Just because you agree to a ToS doesn't mean they can legally hold you to illegal terms. The way it works right now is that a lot of the shit in the ToS may not apply to the EU while they do apply to the USA etc. Also there are a bunch of stuff in ToS that probably would warrant a lawsuit in other countries to decide if they are are legal right now but they haven't yet been tested as such.
Look at how valve had no refund policy at all, including in countries where one had to exist, Australian courts ruled valves terms were illegal after years of it being that way and they were forced to change how they handled stuff there. It's the same elsewhere.
As for people in here asking how they can make ToS illegal, easily, there are huge amounts of ToS that these companies have that would be illegal in other places outside the USA. Just because you agree to a ToS doesn't mean they can legally hold you to illegal terms. The way it works right now is that a lot of the shit in the ToS may not apply to the EU while they do apply to the USA etc. Also there are a bunch of stuff in ToS that probably would warrant a lawsuit in other countries to decide if they are are legal right now but they haven't yet been tested as such.
Look at how valve had no refund policy at all, including in countries where one had to exist, Australian courts ruled valves terms were illegal after years of it being that way and they were forced to change how they handled stuff there. It's the same elsewhere.
True motives are pretty transparent here. They just want to have control in their direct hands. Also of course he wasn't actually censored.
Hopefully this doesn't confuse correct need for independant laws and arbritation with concerns on direct government control: the latter is undesirable but the former very much so.
Hopefully this doesn't confuse correct need for independant laws and arbritation with concerns on direct government control: the latter is undesirable but the former very much so.
TOS aren't legal as it is, if they contradict (EU) law.
Which most US TOS do, making them void everywhere on the continent.
They can't outlaw private companies moderating their private platforms, however.
This is just posturing for their voterbase.