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brainchild

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From Politico:

Bernie Sanders found out he won one of the most prized endorsements in the Democratic Party on one of the worst days of his political career.

As the 78-year-old Sanders laid in a hospital bed in Nevada after a heart attack, with his presidential campaign in jeopardy, his campaign manager Faiz Shakir received a call and passed his phone to the Vermont senator. It was Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. She told Sanders she was coming aboard his campaign, months before she was expected to issue an endorsement.

"Think about the courage of this person who says, 'You know, I know what you just went through but I have so much trust and confidence in you that you are the one who will fight the fight that I believe in. I'm with you,'" Shakir told POLITICO after news of the endorsement. "To hear that was like, 'Wow.'"

Sanders' aides sensed that Ocasio-Cortez's endorsement was within reach after she traveled to Burlington in late September to talk with Sanders and his team about her priorities, especially the Green New Deal. It's not clear who proposed the meetup in Vermont, but Shakir scheduled an hour-plus brunch between Ocasio-Cortez and Sanders. Shakir joined them, as did Jane Sanders and an aide to the congresswoman.

"I remember when they sat and talked to each other, it just felt like people who just know each other and understand each other," Shakir said. "They have been to some degree within their own caucuses — whether it's the House caucus or the Senate caucus — made to feel that they're outsiders looking in. And I think they find [a] common bond in that: That we are in a struggle where even the establishment of the Democratic Party doesn't always appreciate how we're approaching these issues."

Omar, meanwhile, told her fellow Squad members that she had decided to endorse Sanders shortly after laying out her criteria for a candidate at the "People's Presidential Forum" in Iowa last month, according to the source familiar with her decision. She had been thinking about joining Sanders for some time, the person said, and talked with her allies about the importance of not following the polls but instead endorsing a candidate based on the issues.

"The hospitalization raised the stakes a lot, emotionally and politically," said Alexandra Rojas, the executive director of Justice Democrats. "They are all movement people, they are all organizers at heart, and they were inspired by what he started in 2016," she said of the members of Congress who endorsed Sanders.


It seems as if AOC and Ilhan will actively campaign for Sanders.

Also, Tlaib says she hasn't given an endorsement yet (though she's scheduled to appear with him soon):

A third Squad member, Rep. Rashida Tlaib, is expected to announce soon she is backing Sanders as well, though she said Wednesday she hasn't made an endorsement yet.
 
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Blue Skies

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I think bernie and AOC have a lot of crossover in supporters, so not sure how big a deal her endorsement of him is.
 

Madison

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Honestly, i respect AOC so much for supporting Bernie at his weakest moment. Even if it fails, she has earned a lot of goodwill from me
 
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But, Obama? Either of them?
Oh, that's right, the thread headline doesn't match the article headline.
One of the.
 

loquaciousJenny

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Obama hasn't endorsed anybody though, also hilarious how much weight people put behind their leftist waifu
 
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brainchild

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But, Obama? Either of them?
Oh, that's right, the thread headline doesn't match the article headline.
One of the.

I literally copied/pasted the headline from Politico. What are you talking about?

I do apologize for the Spanish accent in the thread title, I must have had my Spanish keyboard on at the time.
 
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I literally copied/pasted the headline from Politico. What are you talking about?

I do apologize for the Spanish accent in the thread title, I must have had my Spanish keyboard on at the time.

[Thread] How Bernie won the most prized endorsement in Democratic politics from his hospital bed
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[Article] How Bernie won a prized endorsement from his hospital bed

Just to be clear I personally don't care, though. Maybe Politico changed it after?
 
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brainchild

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[Thread] How Bernie won the most prized endorsement in Democratic politics from his hospital bed
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[Article] How Bernie won a prized endorsement in Democratic politics from his hospital bed

They literally just changed the headline:

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this makes me hopeful for the future. I feel like the generational gap between Sanders and AOC is this beautiful, depressing metaphor of how fucking long it took to get here and also how bad it really got. nice to know that there's a new generation of politicians that are willing to actually fight and serve the people slowly but surely scratching their way into a system that actively filters people like them out.
 

Chrome Hyena

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damn. I just am not feeling Bernie. I don't see it. dude just feels too out of touch and as a black man I just don't feel like he gives a real fuck.

My vote is Elizabeth Warren all the way. so I hope she pulls it out.
 
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The rub seems to be that this feels very reactionary. It certainly looks like something they wanted as a centerpiece of his run, and instead had to be rolled out to combat the perception that Bernie is frail and/ or slipping in polls.

Basically, "break glass in-case of campaign plateau"
 

sphagnum

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It speaks well of their commitment to the cause that they're not doing the politically "logical" thing but the ideologically right thing.

Now if only Ilhan would come out as a socialist!
 

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The rub seems to be that this feels very reactionary. It certainly looks like something they wanted as a centerpiece of his run, and instead had to be rolled out to combat the perception that Bernie is frail and/ or slipping in polls.

Basically, "break glass in-case of campaign plateau"
I mean, I guess but I don't know how it shifts perceptions. Does AOC all of a sudden negate his real health concerns that are shared by a significant amount of Democrats?
Does AOC help expand his base into reaches that he's currently struggling with?

It does help bring some enthusiasm for his campaign, even if it's just amongst his current crop of supporters. Maybe it'll lead to a retooling of his campaign strategy.
 

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Her endorsement of Sanders is like a nega-endorsement of herself. Bernie is not a good pick to be President of the United States (he's too damned old and literally just had a heart attack, these things are unfortunately important) so it's not a good look on her judgment.
 

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People saying this won't make a dent in his campaign I think are missing a big part of this (or maybe it's intentional who knows).

AOC, Omar, and Talib are going to get young voters involved in numbers we haven't seen before. All these polls that rely on landlines that nobody under 50 still has I think are underestimating that demographic because historically it has been small.

I think that will change this election, and I think it starts with this primary (it can be argued it already started in the mid terms). Bernie excels among young voters. That's the play here and why it's important beyond the fact that these people are choosing to endorse the candidate that aligns closest to their positions rather than the "politically smart" move or whatever condescending shit you wanna say.
 

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Obama will most likely wait until there's a clear candidate. He's all about that union.
 

Xx 720

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I just want Trump out, hope whoever gets the nom gets some momentum and endorsements.
 

moblin

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Yeah "the most prized" is typical Politico eyeroll but it's also silly to pretend like AOC in particular (and Tlaib and Omar to a lesser extent) carry zero weight among the people who are likely to vote in primaries and especially attend caucuses; leftist organizational fervor is part of what pushed Obama past Clinton, after all.

Will be a fun winter.
 
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brainchild

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People saying this won't make a dent in his campaign I think are missing a big part of this (or maybe it's intentional who knows).

AOC, Omar, and Talib are going to get young voters involved in numbers we haven't seen before. All these polls that rely on landlines that nobody under 50 still has I think are underestimating that demographic because historically it has been small.

I think that will change this election, and I think it starts with this primary (it can be argued it already started in the mid terms). Bernie excels among young voters. That's the play here and why it's important beyond the fact that these people are choosing to endorse the candidate that aligns closest to their positions rather than the "politically smart" move or whatever condescending shit you wanna say.


Yeah, this is the real news here. They're gonna be actively campaigning for him and getting out the youth vote. If they can help turn out the youth vote significantly, Bernie might actually disrupt polling trends (that assume young people won''t be voting in the primaries). Potentially, it could significantly change the course of the race. That's a big if though.
 

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Yeah, this is the real news here. They're gonna be actively campaigning for him and getting out the youth vote. If they can help turn out the youth vote significantly, Bernie might actually disrupt polling trends (that assume young people won''t be voting in the primaries). Potentially, it could significantly change the course of the race. That's a big if though.

Relying on the youth vote is a losing strategy. They didn't save him in the last primaries, why would they now?
 
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iirc, the "leftist waifu" meme originated with anti-left trolls here trying to gaslight leftists into thinking there was no significant disagreement between Nancy Pelosi and AOC on climate change (lol). then it was used to mock leftists for (correctly) calling out AOC for implicitly endorsing the "antisemitic tropes" smears against Ilhan Omar instead of having her back.

I'm sure it's been used in other contexts, I don't really care to search for it, but really lovely people