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Zombine

Member
Oct 25, 2017
13,231
It 's pretty weird how both Wonder Trade and GTS are functioning right now. We know for a fact hundreds of thousands of people, if not millions are using Home, yet it takes HOURS to complete these simple trades that took less than a minute in Pokemon USUM.

Room trade and friend trade still don't work at all for me. This service is a giant mess and people should be compensated for the disastrous release in some form.

And I already paid for my year :(

There is a lot I like about this, and I love just looking at my different Pokémon, but man do I hate the state this released in.

It does, but it's sloooooooooooooooooow. Mine took all night.

Ughhhhh. I'm not even being a jerk in my wonder trade. I'm giving away tons of dupes I have from breeding. Why won't they let me send my babies out into the world? :(
 

Deleted member 34949

Account closed at user request
Banned
Nov 30, 2017
19,101
Wait, you can send over Pokémon from the old VC games on 3DS? How did I not know this.
Yep. And nearly every Pokemon transferred from the VC games come with their Hidden Ability and (I think?) at least 3 perfect IVs. The VC version of Crystal in particular gives you a Celebi that you can even transfer over to Gen 7 or 8.
 

riq

Member
Feb 21, 2019
1,687
I'm not convinced Wonder Trade works.
It takes 6 hours to trade an individual Pokemon. If you take it out and exchange for another, the timer is reset. This is based on anedoctal evidence but I'm pretty confident on it, traded 50 mons so far using it.

Your post made me realize someone could obtain the Gen 8 Pokemon without playing a Gen 8 game. Trading for an entire generation is not as interesting as catching it yourself...but still possible.
That's what I'm doing lol Luckily I have a Protean Froakie breeding industry on Y, so most common mons are relatively easy to get. No clue how I'm gonna get the legendaries though.

That's what I did, lol; got all the Galar mons and Galarian forms without owning a Switch.
That's awesome. Mind what do you recommend offering for Zacian, Zamazenta and Eternatus?
 

Maple

Member
Oct 27, 2017
11,732
It takes 6 hours to trade an individual Pokemon. If you take it out and exchange for another, the timer is reset. This is based on anedoctal evidence but I'm pretty confident on it, traded 50 mons so far using it.

If the trade occurs at exactly 6 hours each time, this would suggest an intentionally set timer to limit the amount of trades people can perform.

And when you consider that the premium plan offers 7 additional slots, one starts to really start to question TPC's motives here.
 

Pedro

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
1,967
That's awesome. Mind what do you recommend offering for Zacian, Zamazenta and Eternatus?

I first put a Rayquaza from OR for an Eternatus and a Kyurem from White for Zacian that were traded fairly quickly. Then I had to put a Solgaleo, a Reshiram and a Lunala, all asking for a Zamazenta, and wait around 2 days until someone accepted the trade.

I'd try offering any of the legendaries that have just become available in swoshi thanks to HOME, you can find a list here: https://www.serebii.net/swordshield/transferonly.shtml
 

riq

Member
Feb 21, 2019
1,687
If the trade occurs at exactly 6 hours each time, this would suggest an intentionally set timer to limit the amount of trades people can perform.

And when you consider that the premium plan offers 7 additional slots, one starts to really start to question TPC's motives here.
That's what I think as well, but we should add in all caps that we're speculating, else the anti misinformation squad might come for our heads.
I first put a Rayquaza from OR for an Eternatus and a Kyurem from White for Zacian that were traded fairly quickly. Then I had to put a Solgaleo, a Reshiram and a Lunala, all asking for a Zamazenta, and wait around 2 days until someone accepted the trade.

I'd try offering any of the legendaries that have just become available in swoshi thanks to HOME, you can find a list here: https://www.serebii.net/swordshield/transferonly.shtml
Hmm thanks. I've tried Cobalion, Terrakion, Rayquaza and Lugia so far but no dice. Thinking I'll have to part with one of my Kyurem and hunt for another pair of Reshiram and Zekrom.
 

Kanhir

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,891
If the trade occurs at exactly 6 hours each time, this would suggest an intentionally set timer to limit the amount of trades people can perform.

And when you consider that the premium plan offers 7 additional slots, one starts to really start to question TPC's motives here.
The whole thing seems designed to limit trades.
  • Wonder trades take 6 hours to execute
  • GTS deposited mons aren't actually advertised for hours
  • Public room trades are limited to 3 a day
  • Friend trades are limited to 10 a day and only work in person
It feels like they're artificially setting limits on the entire (paid) experience, but I'm not sure what the end goal is. To ease the load on their servers?
 

Maple

Member
Oct 27, 2017
11,732
The whole thing seems designed to limit trades.
  • Wonder trades take 6 hours to execute
  • GTS deposited mons aren't actually advertised for hours
  • Public room trades are limited to 3 a day
  • Friend trades are limited to 10 a day and only work in person
It feels like they're artificially setting limits on the entire (paid) experience, but I'm not sure what the end goal is. To ease the load on their servers?

You know what amazes me? They had all of this figured out 7 years ago.

Wonder Trade took just seconds and I could chain wonder trades repeatedly until I found something interesting. Pokemon on the GTS would be traded within minutes of being deposited. I didn't have to quit the game and put it aside in order to conduct trades. It was all free to use and built directly into the game.

Now? Wonder "Trade" takes 6+ hours to complete. GTS is frustratingly broken. To even use any of this I have to quit the game, load up a separate app on my console, move Pokemon around, then put my console aside only so I can load up another app on my smartphone so I can actually do any of this. Oh, and arbitrary restrictions on all of this push players into a subscription.

It's honestly sad to see the fragmentation and devolution of such foundational features.
 

Pedro

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
1,967
I wonder how you register Freeze Shock and Ice Burn as moves on the pokédex, considering those are Black/White Kyurem moves and you can't put that pokémon on Bank.
 

russbus64

Member
May 1, 2018
1,933
Are wonder trades/gts really that unsafe right now? I have two gts and all 10 wonder trades set up currently. Previously traded for a Sliggoo and got a Japanese one (doesn't look hacked, nothing special about it otherwise).
 

ryodi

#TeamThierry
Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,365
Gave into to temptation and subscribed but after syncing with Bank it's showing my National Dex missing a lot of Pokemon even though it is complete when I look at it in Bank.
 

RPG_Fanatic

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,639
So are Alcremie forms popular of GTS right now? I was able to trade two of them away this morning to get a Slurpuff and a Rhyperior.
 

gardfish

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,628
The supposed Original Color Magearna gift is driving me crazy. I have a complete living dex (including all the forms) in Home, but it's still not showing up for me.
 

ryodi

#TeamThierry
Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,365
Thanks for the tip. I've cleared the app cache but it hasn't fixed it but if it's a known issue I'm sure it'll update properly once I use the Bank transfer a few more times.
 

Charizard

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,905
Well, can't really confirm that, Litten is one of the most traded and requested Pokemon but nobody wants my 3 in almost a week. Like something is broken.
Worked better in the old games so far. 🤷‍♂️
Oh that's a different problem where for those kinds of Pokemon stuff gets bumped off the viewable entries super fast, and the shit trades clog stuff up.

You gotta reupload frequently traded mons like Litten if they aren't traded quickly in this one.
 

Stevo

Member
Jan 29, 2019
280
I never used Pokémon Bank, don't have Let's Go Pikavee, deleted Pokémon Go but I did just get Pokémon Sword. Do I need Pokémon Home or am I good?
 

Neat

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
1,107
New York City
The best way is the GTS. You find that offer immediately.
Everything else doesn't work.
Thanks for the input guys. And lol that's so bitterly disappointing. Guess I should've expected better than having something as simple as trading Pokemon with a friend go by seamlessly with this company at the helm. I'm extra bitter because all of these Pokemon were in Bank and I could've just easily traded on Sun/Moon. I had literally *just* moved them from Bank to Home when I asked that question earlier, and as we know it's a one way trip.

The Pokemon in question haven't been added to the Galar Dex. So I guess we have no other option but to roll the dice on GTS and hope they don't get snatched up.
 

Stevo

Member
Jan 29, 2019
280
Only if you want to use the GTS to request specific Pokemon trades.

Thanks for the info. I'm happy enough to let 3DS VC Pokémon stay on the 3DS but ultimately I'd like a Mew and Mewtwo in Sword because to me they are still the best of the best. :) I tapped out in the first quarter of Diamond so I guess I'll see how obsessed I get with Sword and take it from there!
 
Oct 25, 2017
16,422
I see the GTS is as crappy as ever after all these years.

There are still people asking for legendaries for non-legends.



I checked back on my Pokémon White and HeartGold and still have a ton of monsters left in there. It's gonna be a pain to use Transporter.
 
Oct 26, 2017
2,430
This Pokemon started life in Gen 1 VC as a Missingno.
With the help of Gen 2 VC and some Arbitrary Code Execution it was able to make it all the way into Pokemon Home!
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Of course, after this whole ordeal it's indistinguishable from a gen 2 VC Porygon2 that was simply renamed to MISSINGNO....
But oh well.
 

Fnnrqwin

Member
Sep 19, 2019
2,299
I can't believe the reward for completing the National Dex is a Pokémon you can't transfer to Sword and Shield.
 

Parthenios

The Fallen
Oct 28, 2017
13,613
I found a shiny Hoothoot in Silver VC. Would people appreciate receiving cloned but otherwise legit copies in their wonder box trades? Would I risk a ban (can they tell if you put 10 identical rare Pokemon up)?
 

Fnnrqwin

Member
Sep 19, 2019
2,299
I found a shiny Hoothoot in Silver VC. Would people appreciate receiving cloned but otherwise legit copies in their wonder box trades? Would I risk a ban (can they tell if you put 10 identical rare Pokemon up)?
I have an entire box of cloned Adamant Regenerator Ho-Oh and Bold Multiscale Lugia from Gold VC I've been using for the GTS. You'll be fine.
 

Quacktion

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 27, 2017
6,479
I wish they'd re-release some older Pokemon games on the Switch because I cant be bothered to do the whole DS to 3DS (which I dont own) to Bank to Home to Sword just for a plain-ass Zigzagoon, one which people only seem to want Legendaries for which I thought I turned off but apparently I dont know what a Legendary is anymore since Entei isnt one supposedly.
 

Deleted member 19742

User requested account closure
Member
Oct 27, 2017
703
Are wonder trades/gts really that unsafe right now? I have two gts and all 10 wonder trades set up currently. Previously traded for a Sliggoo and got a Japanese one (doesn't look hacked, nothing special about it otherwise).

I guess it depends on if the folk(s) who were making maliciously crafted Pokemon were perma-banned or not, and if anyone else is deciding to continue where they left off. But the situation itself is a mess if you're unlucky enough to get one of those Pokemon. If you end up getting your HOME account locked, or your Y-Comm on SwSh disabled, how's Game Freak going to remedy that? Are they going to leave you SOL for gawd knows how long?
 

brinstar

User requested ban
Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,272
The restrictions on trading directly with someone online is bonkers. They definitely need to rethink that position
 

udivision

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,033
Maybe over time they'll loosen these restrictions.

Having the limits is a good way to prevent the servers being overrun right?
 

CloudCircus

Member
Dec 9, 2017
819
Sorry, I don't know that much about Pokémon. What's the point of storing your Pokémon from different games online?
 

Edge

A King's Landing
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
21,012
Celle, Germany
I wish communities would already have constant ID group trades running to go around the stupid restrictions. But so far I haven't seen anything like that.
 

Tavernade

Tavernade
Moderator
Sep 18, 2018
8,633
I like Wonder Trade a lot, but what happens if I get a hacked Mon? I haven't noticed anything impossible yet, but I keep seeing people mention it and I know in past games they could wreck everything.

The whole thing seems designed to limit trades.
  • Wonder trades take 6 hours to execute
  • GTS deposited mons aren't actually advertised for hours
  • Public room trades are limited to 3 a day
  • Friend trades are limited to 10 a day and only work in person
It feels like they're artificially setting limits on the entire (paid) experience, but I'm not sure what the end goal is. To ease the load on their servers?

Knowing Nintendo/Pokemon I imagine it's something done to limit hacking, stolen Pokemon, and force people to socialise more.
 

LawfulEnder

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
496
Mobile adamantly refusing to recognize that I have Deoxys, Tornadus, and Landorus is pretty annoying, now that I know there's actually a reward for finishing the Dex. Still a day or so away from evolving a second Melmetal to send over and who knows when I'll actually get a Zeraora, but still.
 

JakeNoseIt

Catch My Drift
Verified
Oct 27, 2017
4,536
Silly question: is it possible to organize my boxes all at once, or is that functionality tied to list viewing exclusively? I just want to make my Pokemon Home boxes ordered by National Dex #, but I have a kinda hard time navigating the app
 

dyreschlock

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,094
Gifu, Japan
Oh my god... catching Meltan in Pokemon Go is so annoying. Last night after drinking, I went through 50 pokeballs on a single Meltan and still didn't catch him. This morning, I bought some Great Balls and after 20 throws, I was able to catch 3 of them. I moved them to Pokemon Home hoping to get a Zamazenta through the GTS, but you can't actually trade Meltan through GTS. Blarg.

You can still trade one through regular means, right? Anyone want to trade a Meltan for Zamazenta? Send me a PM. :)