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Pokémon SwSh datamining confirms models are reused, #GameFreakLied is now trending
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To be honest, I have the game preordered and I'm planning on enjoying it this weekend. I guess it doesn't take much to make me happy, as none of these "leaks" is making me upset.
Wait, what did CM Punk do?
If anything was going to convince me to buy a Switch, it was this.
Such a shame for Pokemon fans that this is what they have for their big console debut.
If anything was going to convince me to buy a Switch, it was this.
Such a shame for Pokemon fans that this is what they have for their big console debut.
The fact that models are being reused isn't bad (nobody is expecting then to remake 1000+ models from scratch), it's that GF lied about the amount of work put into the game to justify cutting the dex more than halfway down. I personally have no problem with the asset reuse because GF created super high-res models for that purpose explicitly.
Exactly, nobody would bat an eye if it weren't for the claims made and the state the game is releasing in.
The problem here is that Gamefreak outright went out of their way to state that the reason why the Dex cut happened was to focus on improving the graphics and reworking the models - and now, it seems like the graphics are a step backward from Let's Go, and the models are the exact same as the ones used in Sun and Moon.
If they didn't say that, very few people would be complaining about this.
Even if they did, they will rework them sooner or later, 3DS models won't last forever. i think this is a move that had to be done sooner or later. they choose that time to be now.
They should have communicated the issue better but i'm used to bad communication and silence from Japanese companies, which hurts them a lot (in my opinion).
I don't really think it was rushed. at least, not to the extent you imagine. people said the same about Switch launch titles, but it was just how they planned it, they wanted to release the system with one main game and they wanted you to buy the system with that game.
It is just a decision they made early on, probably... either for technical/design reasons or to push Home subscriptions.
They should have communicated the issue better but i'm used to bad communication and silence from Japanese companies, which hurts them a lot (in my opinion).
I don't really think it was rushed. at least, not to the extent you imagine. people said the same about Switch launch titles, but it was just how they planned it, they wanted to release the system with one main game and they wanted you to buy the system with that game.
It is just a decision they made early on, probably... either for technical/design reasons or to push Home subscriptions.
As entertaining as this whole drama has been, the aftermath months after release will be even better, when the mob starts to admit to each other that they all still bought the game
Omg so much this. People are acting like a family member has died. The game isn't even out yet and already people are falling over themselves with lazy dev rhetoric. Maybe let's wait till we see the full game and criticize fairly and constructively and maybe try to actually enjoy the game that is put in front of you. JFC
That's the issue. For the better part of a decade, any genuinely thought out criticism was met with equally rabid fans quick to silence them. It's only now, that the games have crossed so many lines and showed such disregard for quality both from an aesthetic and mechanical perspective, as well as a blatant series of anti-consumer decisions (removing the national dex, EXP Share stuck on, GTS removed, and other removed features that may be considered spoilers) straight up lies such as this thread's OP, and on top of that being so shady and underhanded with how this information was (or in many cases, wasn't) presented to the public has finally allowed the criticism to outweigh the noise of those who would defend and apologise on GF's behalf.
Nuanced criticism has gotten nowhere, Game Freak has never listened and treat Pokemon as a money making machine. Remove as many features and cut as many costs as you can while still releasing a product that is technically 'new'. Sell 14m copies. Rinse, repeat. Now that they've finally gone too far I think the response is justified, because MAYBE it'll affect sales, which is clearly the only thing that they care about.
Fair point,
though tbh when i initially read that statement i thought it was to be a overall point for HD assets and models in the games. A Switch HD title gonna take up more resources than what we had on 3DS and its not just limited to the Pokemon models. The models were actually the thing that people had the least issues with from what i read.
Because their fanbase will vehemently defend them until it's proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that they're lying.
And then their fanbase will pretend that it was obvious all along and that the people pointing it out now really need to move on.
The negativity around this game is getting really annoying to encounter on various websites I'm active on. Every tiny little thing seems to get blown out of proportion and turned into a controversy. It's just a video game, jeez. It's going to be fun and it'll be decently made. People really need to grow up.
Thanks. I haven't been following this and had no idea how big of a deal it's been.
I don't understand why on earth they would want to make new models then... when the point of the high-poly 3DS models was surely part of a long-term future-proofing plan?
none of those things are anti-consumer.
that word has lost all of its meaning.
It's impossible to watch a stream of this game and not come to the conclusion that it was horrendously rushed.
This is probably it, yeah. It doesn't take a detective to see that the models for the older Pokémon are pretty clearly the same, but getting all of them to work on Switch, making sure they look acceptable in different contexts (Wild Area, Dynamaxing, Camp, etc) doubtlessly took no small amount of effort. And they're going to have to go through similar amounts (or more) of effort in successive games with whatever features and mechanics they introduce.
There are plenty of technical problems in the game and poorly implemented systems tho, it's not just the Dex cut.
Pop is seriously the worst on Switch I've ever seen, game is very, very light on content, some climax cutscenes are 23 steps behind Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon on the 3DS, there is barely any post game.
Given that the game is coming out in a few days and these results seem preliminary, this can be discussed here: https://www.resetera.com/threads/po...-page-401-update-datamining-has-begun.152324/
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