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Pokemaniac

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,944
Pokémon releases are getting more frequent, and Game Freak staff have talked about the need of releasing new games quickly so I doubt that is going to change.

Anyways, we're going to get a new game next year, as far as I know.
Oh I know that that's probably what's going to happen. I just would prefer it didn't. Especially because it's probably going to be Diamond and Pearl remakes, and I absolutely don't trust 2020 Game Freak to make good Diamond and Pearl remakes.
 

Serebii

Serebii.net Webmaster
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Oct 24, 2017
13,116
PT: 2009
HGSS: 2010
BW: 2011
BW2: 2012
XY: 2013
ORAS: 2014
SM: 2016
USUM: 2017
LGPE: 2018
SS: 2019

I seldom use this word, but four years without a mainline Pokemon game legitimately feels impossible to me.
Can I remind people that this is the following scenario

When the game that is the start of a generation is completed, work immediately begins on the next generation. Not the next game, the next generation.

While development of the next generation is in play, smaller teams led by the younger staff (at points when they wouldn't be needed for the big new generation games) work on smaller projects such as Enhanced Versions, remakes and now DLC instead of Enhanced Versions based on the framework set by the game starting that generation so less work is required.

As such, Sword & Shield started development in 2016. Sun & Moon in 2013 and so forth.

4 years between SWSH and Gen 9 is possible, we've even had gaps that long before. Ruby & Sapphire to Diamond & Pearl was 4 years and Diamond & Pearl to Black & White was 4 years.

Also your list is slightly askewed. We should go by original releases

PT: 2008
HGSS: 2009
BW: 2010
BW2: 2012
XY: 2013
ORAS: 2014
SM: 2016
USUM: 2017
LGPE: 2018
SS: 2019
 

Atheerios

Member
Oct 27, 2017
7,097
So looks like it will basically follow the Pokémon Direct format.

They probably just don't want to call it a Pokémon Direct so people don't overhype this and don't get disappointed when nothing outside SWSH is announced.
 

Zebesian-X

Member
Dec 3, 2018
19,689
I never picked this gen up! Think I'm in for a nice breezy pokemon playthrough this holiday though. Especially if this DLC gives us a taste of a more open, exploration-focused Pokemon game could be like
 

Zodiark

alt account
Banned
Feb 8, 2020
650
Crown Tundra was always going to be the real deal. I hope it gets a mid/late October release instead of November because November is freakin' full of games and consoles that will drive my (and many other people I suppose) attention away from Pokémon.
 

BowieZ

Member
Nov 7, 2017
3,972
Can't wait to see how fucked up this new cabbage-brained bipedal deer legendary looks.
 

riq

Member
Feb 21, 2019
1,687
Sw/Sh sucked but Isle of Armour was pretty good, if lacking a bit on the battle department. Hoping they continue on the right track.

Plz Regieleki don't be a Sword exclusive plz
 

Zedark

Member
Oct 25, 2017
14,719
The Netherlands
PT: 2009
HGSS: 2010
BW: 2011
BW2: 2012
XY: 2013
ORAS: 2014
SM: 2016
USUM: 2017
LGPE: 2018
SS: 2019

I seldom use this word, but four years without a mainline Pokemon game legitimately feels impossible to me.
Gen 9 coming in 2023 does not preclude them from releasing other mainline games. This year is unique in having no Pokemon game, and I expect next year to have a remake. Perhaps 2022 will be empty again, and then 2023 has a gen 9 game. I personally think they will want to release gen 9 in 2022, though, since starting a new gen in 2023 will again put them in the BW situation where the new gen starts when the new system comes (assuming Switch 2 launches late 2023). They might want to start it earlier, so that they can have gen 9 fit better into the Switch lifetime (assuming they can get the game in a good state within 3 years).

But yeah, a 4 year gap between new generation games is not too outlandish: the typical gap for the last two gens has been 3 years.
 

King Kingo

Banned
Dec 3, 2019
7,656
I never picked this gen up! Think I'm in for a nice breezy pokemon playthrough this holiday though. Especially if this DLC gives us a taste of a more open, exploration-focused Pokemon game could be like

The DLC is essentially optional-game content that has no influence on the base game's story. The DLC is also responsive to the complaints made from the base game so take that into consideration when you finally play Sword or Shield.
 

LaytonWright

Unshakable Resolve
Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,148
Will be alot of dlc stuff with one announcement of something else.

Know the Heart Gold Soul Silver Trademarks were renewed recently.. a guy can dream of a switch version of gold/silver thats not lets go.
 

Quinton

Specialist at TheGamer / Reviewer at RPG Site
Member
Oct 25, 2017
17,255
Midgar, With Love
Can I remind people that this is the following scenario

When the game that is the start of a generation is completed, work immediately begins on the next generation. Not the next game, the next generation.

While development of the next generation is in play, smaller teams led by the younger staff (at points when they wouldn't be needed for the big new generation games) work on smaller projects such as Enhanced Versions, remakes and now DLC instead of Enhanced Versions based on the framework set by the game starting that generation so less work is required.

As such, Sword & Shield started development in 2016. Sun & Moon in 2013 and so forth.

4 years between SWSH and Gen 9 is possible, we've even had gaps that long before. Ruby & Sapphire to Diamond & Pearl was 4 years and Diamond & Pearl to Black & White was 4 years.

Also your list is slightly askewed. We should go by original releases

PT: 2008
HGSS: 2009
BW: 2010
BW2: 2012
XY: 2013
ORAS: 2014
SM: 2016
USUM: 2017
LGPE: 2018
SS: 2019
Gen 9 coming in 2023 does not preclude them from releasing other mainline games. This year is unique in having no Pokemon game, and I expect next year to have a remake. Perhaps 2022 will be empty again, and then 2023 has a gen 9 game. I personally think they will want to release gen 9 in 2022, though, since starting a new gen in 2023 will again put them in the BW situation where the new gen starts when the new system comes (assuming Switch 2 launches late 2023). They might want to start it earlier, so that they can have gen 9 fit better into the Switch lifetime (assuming they can get the game in a good state within 3 years).

But yeah, a 4 year gap between new generation games is not too outlandish: the typical gap for the last two gens has been 3 years.

It appears I was not clear. I was stating that four years without any new Pokémon game in the main series, as in, no remakes, no Let's Go, nothing, strikes me as hard to believe. I was not saying a four-year gap between generations is hard to believe. Quite the contrary, in fact.

The member whom I was replying to was suggesting that Sword/Shield DLCs take the place of any releases whatsoever until Gen 9.
 

Serebii

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Oct 24, 2017
13,116
It appears I was not clear. I was stating that four years without any new Pokémon game in the main series, as in, no remakes, no Let's Go, nothing, strikes me as hard to believe. I was not saying a four-year gap between generations is hard to believe. Quite the contrary, in fact.

The member whom I was replying to was suggesting that Sword/Shield DLCs take the place of any releases whatsoever until Gen 9.
Oh

Yeah that's 100% not happening. That's why they have this multi-team set up.

People say "oh they should just all work on Project A", but most would have no work to do at certain points, whereas with other projects, they can work on one then another without hindering the other
 

Comet

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,532
Sw/Sh sucked but Isle of Armour was pretty good, if lacking a bit on the battle department. Hoping they continue on the right track.

Plz Regieleki don't be a Sword exclusive plz
Yeah I'd say Isle of Armor was a step in the right direction, but still had some major issues.

I also think this series desperately needs a Switch Pro because the performance in some of these areas is laughably bad.
 

pokéfan

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,304
What if we get a upscaled port of HeartGold & Soul Silver next year. Would people take that?

anyhow should I get excited for today's event? I'm not sure what to expect from this DLC, i want a good story content along with with this exploration and more NPC to battle in the over-world, Isle of Amour was barren in that regards.
 

Hero_Select

One Winged Slayer
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
2,008
I'm so ready to be done with SwSh. I've been extremely disappointed with the games since day 1. Isle of Armor was okayish and a step up from the Wild Area in the main game but it just didn't do enough, we need a pokemon game that's fully open.

Crown Tunda from past trailers did look like its the more interesting dlc of the two, I just hope it's more substantial
 

ADM975

Member
Feb 22, 2018
275
Crown Tundra looks to be much more interesting of the two DLCs to me, wasnt too much of a fan of the Isle of Armour. Looking forward to hearing more news
 

Aleh

Member
Oct 27, 2017
16,293
The Crown Tundra definitely looks like what people were hyping up gen 8 to be when it was clear it'd be a Switch game. A really big open map with overworld Pokémon, and secrets to find out thanks to the new legendaries. The base game Wild Area was completely detached from the story, now it's where everything takes place. Exciting for what it means for gen 9.
 

BhetjaXIV

Member
Sep 8, 2018
642
Belgium
They're not putting a Gen 9 game out next year.

That's not what I meant haha, I want them to take their time with that.

I just hope we'll get something we would not normally expect. Or a cool twist on an existing idea, like the DLCs are here to replace the usual "complete" version. I like the fact that gamefreak is doing new stuff and whatever they are planning for next year, I hope I'll genuinly be surprised, as I was with the DLCs announcement.
 

Tbone5189

Succ-essor
Member
Mar 25, 2020
4,919
They're not putting a Gen 9 game out next year.

But what if they do??? I feel like since gen 5 we always hear they aren't or they won't or they can't and then they do lol.

Reminds me of smash characters with all these rules xD

Edit: To clarify I don't think gen 9 is coming but never say never. Been doing that for several years now to be proven wrong. It happens
 

BigTime_2018

Member
Dec 31, 2018
1,319
I enjoyed The Isle of Armor. I had a fun time catching more Pokémon and running around in what was pretty much an improved Wild Area. My main criticism of The Isle of Armor was that it was light on story content. I hope The Crown Tundra improves upon that, but even if it doesn't, I'm sure it will still be enjoyable.
 

Raihan

Member
Sep 2, 2020
35
Hopefully there will be more Galar lore, found that aspect pretty lacking in the main game
 

Tiamant

Member
Oct 28, 2017
1,361
*Checks how my Cradily that tore shit through X/Y is gonna hold up through the current meta*

Oh no...
 

Dany1899

Member
Dec 23, 2017
4,219
I think the release date will be around 13 November. Let's see, I suppose we will get a 3-minute trailer, followed by some explanations on what was shown in the trailer, and finally the release date.
 

Noog

▲ Legend ▲
Member
May 1, 2018
2,859
It's funny, since I was a kid, I'm conditioned to start craving a new Pokemon game to play each Fall. I had in it 2018 for LGPE, and I had it last year for SwSh. I think those games were just so bland that I don't have it this year. I enjoyed them while playing, but it's the least memorable a Pokemon game has ever been for me. I haven't played the first DLC, but I'll be watching to see if this grabs my interest
 

Bowser

Member
Nov 7, 2017
2,814
Hyped as fuck

First DLC was good, this one looks promising and could be our first look at how Gen 9 could be in terms of world design and exploration