Disagree. Paying customers deserve openness and honesty.The way the fans have been acting lately, Game Freak doesn't owe us a damn thing.
Disagree. Paying customers deserve openness and honesty.The way the fans have been acting lately, Game Freak doesn't owe us a damn thing.
The last game had 807, there was 0 doubt that the new games would have them all before it was announced they wouldn't.
That was one of the main arguments whenever someone complained about how let's go lacked a lot of pokemon, even just evolutions of gen 1 pokemon could be added, but "you'll get your game next year"
I personally think they should do a clean break, then slowly roll out the old ones, atleast that way we might actually get something different, that's not what's happening here though.
This sums it up pretty well. Why is the marketing like this? It's either they reveal too much (Sun and Moon) or they reveal very little drip feeds.That's another frustrating thing, none of this stuff is told to us before release.
How many returning Pokémon will there be?
"Wait for the release"
What Pokémon will be cut?
"Wait for the release"
What features will be cut?
"Wait for the release"
The fact that we've had to rely on leaks to learn this stuff before the game's launch is crazy.
They're a business, not our friends. They owe us whatever it takes to get us to part with our $60.The way the fans have been acting lately, Game Freak doesn't owe us a damn thing.
Not if those customers are bullying Game Freak.
A business that's on literal suicide watch now because of fan reaction.
This is what I'm talking about when I say openness and honesty. They never lied to fans, but they never offered the full truth.We can be frustrated, but we don't need to send death threats. With that being said, Game Freak needs to be more open instead of playing coy with their fans. IIRC, Japan never got an official announcement that they were cutting Pokémon.
Again, as I said I look at it from quite the distance. But canceling an event in fear of protests doesn't sound like it's all fine and dandy over there...
What's even worse is that they're gonna be arbitrarily leaving Pokemon out of future games for no reason.I mean, there really isn't a "good" reason.
There's a totally understandable reason, which would be mismanagement, but there's nothing in this game specifically that should make anyone think cutting over half of the dex (and some of the most iconic Pokémon) out of the game is worth it.
Like, full, future proofed 3D models of every Pokémon up through gen 6 were made for X/Y ($35 3DS games). Yet, they can only put 400 in for these $60 home console releases? Are we getting like, expanded post game for this? (No). How about better roster balance? (No). How about redoing the models and animations for the 400 returning Pokémon. Stuff like new stances, significantly more battle animations, animations that help them move naturally in the world? (No).
Enjoy the game. I'm sure it'll be fine, and totally in line with the past few years of the franchise. But come on, there's really no defense for this.
Sorry to inform you, but your ass is not a news source.A business that's on literal suicide watch now because of fan reaction.
Thinking on it, this is how they've always operated. Back with ORAS, Masuda was asked if the Battle Frontier will return and while he never said it would, he didn't deny it either. He would just tell people to look forward to the game.This is what I'm talking about when I say openness and honesty. They never lied to fans, but they never offered the full truth.
There any place I can read more about this without getting Pokémon spoiled?I would change that to
GTS getting gutted, and online trading is worse
They also blame James Turner for the designs this gen that they don't like from the leaks and going as far as to tweet him crude photoshops. Shameful indeed.
Era =/= my ass.
I mean, if you read what I said I'm talking about before the latest news. Last year when they announced it. Open up an honest line of communication and the impact would have been lessened, but they didn't, the obfuscated the truth and hoped for the best.
Not if those customers are bullying Game Freak.
A business that's on literal suicide watch now because of fan reaction
I thought with Pokemon Lets go that they would try and run multiple series in tandem
One experimental and one Mainstay
The problem being... in which series do you cater to fans and which one do you try to innovate and change the game?
In both cases they were half steps where 50% of the game was new and old ideas on both titles and no one is happy
How is the business on literal suicide watch?Not if those customers are bullying Game Freak.
A business that's on literal suicide watch now because of fan reaction.
Staff members at Game Freak ARE getting bullied and harassed though.What the hell lol
Game Freak is not a person. Do you think EA was also being bullied over lootboxes?
So shouldn't future Pokémon games have more Pokémon in them now (from the start) with these first set of games jumped to HD out of the way?
Basically the person leaking can't find the option for GTS anywhere in the game. It may be there and just require you to be online before giving you the option, which, obviously, they can't be. But that would be a change.There any place I can read more about this without getting Pokémon spoiled?
Since the game is not out yet, some of the online functionality might be inactive or waiting for day one patch.
I haven't bought this game yet
Have I mentioned before that I don't much care for Masuda?Thinking on it, this is how they've always operated. Back with ORAS, Masuda was asked if the Battle Frontier will return and while he never said it would, he didn't deny it either. He would just tell people to look forward to the game.
Low morale =/= literal suicide watch.
There was literally no valid source in that thread yesterday, it's all hearsay, that's partially why they locked that thread.
A business that's on literal suicide watch now because of fan reaction.
Oh I see. It's a conscious decision they've made to limit it going forward. Interesting approachNo, they stated a limited dex will be their approach going forward, it's not cumulative.
It's not that far fetched of an expectation. Mainline Pokemon games all had full rosters IIRC, minus the ones you get through trades.I feel for gamefreak. Working for 3+ years on their first hd game by the main team and than get treated like shit.
I mean did people really expect we would have a pokedex of 800+ pokemon in a single game?
Maybe they should have just do a clean break and only do new pokemon.
I'm sure there are Japanese fans hating on James Turner (since the series is big enough there will be fans that do literally anything imaginable) but those photoshops were all in good fun. If it's the one I'm thinking of (Turnervolt), I don't even think the creator disliked the design they were playing off of.They also blame James Turner for the designs this gen that they don't like from the leaks and going as far as to tweet him crude photoshops. Shameful indeed.
There any place I can read more about this without getting Pokémon spoiled?
Since the game is not out yet, some of the online functionality might be inactive or waiting for day one patch.
I think my problem with Let's Go is that it really wasn't experimental, atleast not in any meaningful way.
The biggest thing it had was overworld roaming pokemon, and that was done in the most visually uninteresting way in a region that was completely unsuited for it where they stuck way too much to the original map.
If they had actually done a remake where they re-envisioned the entire map of Kanto to make it so actually exploring and searching for roaming pokemon was fun as well as included modern features and included all the new pokemon but disabled them from following you, I'd have been there day 1 for it.
Instead we got something that was heavily geared towards the Go audience, which we have no idea if it even resonated well with, I wouldn't be surprised if most people who bought it were just pokemon fans who wanted a console pokemon, not people who needed Go style catching to make them feel comfortable because their only experience was the mobile game.
I'm not talking about inner workings. Jesus. I'm talking about the product they're selling. But sure if you want developers to hide bad news and still try and sell you the game, all the power to you.I haven't bought this game yet
Also buying a product does not require that a company open their inner workings to you. Literally no company does this.
Staff members at Game Freak ARE getting bullied and harassed though.
Yes he can. You not liking his responses doesn't mean he doesn't interview well
WHAT? How the hell are they literally on suicide watch? That is some hyperbole.Not if those customers are bullying Game Freak.
A business that's on literal suicide watch now because of fan reaction.
They really needed to tell us which Pokémon would return and which ones would be cut. Even after finding out about the cut, most people were assuming GF would just trim the fat. But there are a ton (like really, a surprising amount) of iconic omissions.I haven't bought this game yet
Also buying a product does not require that a company open their inner workings to you. Literally no company does this.
I think everyone is very aware of what the product is.I'm not talking about inner workings. Jesus. I'm talking about the product they're selling. But sure if you want developers to hide bad news and still try and sell you the game, all the power to you.
Also buying a product does not require that a company open their inner workings to you. Literally no company does this
Evidently not looking at the reaction post leaks. If you don't even want to try and understanding what I'm talking about there's no need to respond. I've no interest in spelling it out for you.
I like about 50% of the ideas GO used and 50% of what Sword and Shield are bringing but I also know that if those ideas were combined that it still wouldn't be the ideal experience
They are getting closer to something good but these half steps arent enough
Game Freak =/= EA. If we were talking about TPC making the game themselves, it'd be a different story.What the hell lol
Game Freak is not a person. Do you think EA was also being bullied over lootboxes?
Why? Other games aren't required to tell you everything that's in the game before release.They really needed to tell us which Pokémon would return and which ones would be cut.
Are there other online features that are functional?Basically the person leaking can't find the option for GTS anywhere in the game. It may be there and just require you to be online before giving you the option, which, obviously, they can't be. But that would be a change.
Basically, no one can say for sure, but given Let's Go not having the GTS and Home on the horizon, people are concerned.
We only know how many Pokemon were cut, which ones were cut, the lack of GTS, and the lack of post-game areas thanks to leakers.
They cut over half of the Pokémon, and cut some of the most iconic Pokémon in the entire franchise. It's definitely something that should have been handled better lol.Why? Other games aren't required to tell you everything that's in the game before release.
How is that at all similar?