Yeah, I know what SwSh have. I just prefer the additions the other games mentioned brought overall and feel they were actually complete, fully realized games
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Pokémon Sword and Shield has best U.S. launch in series history
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According to a certain adult video website, it's the power of Pikachu actually
This is the first time I finished a main Pokemon games since Red & Blue because of the QoL stuffs, despite having bought like 3/4 of the main entries. I can't say I'm displeased with this game, and I thoroughly disagreed that's it's flat out worse than the prior entries, especially due to of QoL improvement alone. And it's pretty neat to see other trainers running around in the wild areas.
2015: "Maybe OR/AS will be more feature rich and have better level/world design since they've had X/Y as a test run on the 3DS" = NOPE
2016: "Maybe SM will be more feature rich and have better level/world design since they've had X/Y and ORAS as test runs on the 3DS" = NOPE
2017: "Maybe Switchmons will be more feature rich and have better level/world design since they've had X/Y, ORAS, S/M as test runs on the 3DS" = NOPE
And now you're holding your breath on improvements in Gen 9?
Anything to downplay the success of SWSH huh ?
Its a NPD report, of course its going to be Dollar sales, that is what they report on.
Its a NPD report, of course its going to be Dollar sales, that is what they report on.
Honestly, the "vote with your wallet" thing some Pokemon fans wanted to drum up with Sword/Shield always amused me, because a lot of people didn't consider the opposite thing already happening with Gen 5, since that is the worst-selling generation ever, even below Gen 3. And that was on the monstrous DS install base.
And I love Gen 5 (second favorite generation), but why would you ever want to make stuff on par with Gen 5 when the future generations sell better on half the install base and $5 more expensive games? The motivation isn't as strong there.
I guess you never know you've got something good until you lose it.
And I love Gen 5 (second favorite generation), but why would you ever want to make stuff on par with Gen 5 when the future generations sell better on half the install base and $5 more expensive games? The motivation isn't as strong there.
I guess you never know you've got something good until you lose it.
Because gamers are spineless. Even if they complain and cry about something, they end up buying the game (the worst ones are the ones that think buying a game used makes a difference).
It's nothing like fans in other industries who actually stop buying products/services. Case in point, the whole NFL controversy that resulted in significant viewership drops.
Using Gen 5 as an example when the 3DS was already out and the DS library was dwindling?
Game has a lot of issues but i like it a lot and got me back on pokemon after a long time. Last game i liked from the series was gen 4(never played black/white games)
3ds pokemon games were so insuferably boring to me, x/y in special made me think i didnt like the series anymore. Glad i was wrong, but i hope they can expand the story and game structure in the future.
3ds pokemon games were so insuferably boring to me, x/y in special made me think i didnt like the series anymore. Glad i was wrong, but i hope they can expand the story and game structure in the future.
I cant say Im shocked. From the outside looking in the game looks phenomenal. Watching people ride their bike around with other trainers sprinting about and shit looks insane.
It's getting pretty damn close to what I imagined the franchise could be if it were a living breathing MMO decades ago when the first ones came out and the anime started.
It's getting pretty damn close to what I imagined the franchise could be if it were a living breathing MMO decades ago when the first ones came out and the anime started.
I'm not holding my breath and I'm keeping my expectations extra low, even though I hope they'll be better. OR/AS and S/M did feel more feature rich than X/Y to me, outside of regression in online multiplayer in S/M. OR/AS had the benefit of being remakes of an earlier gen, even if it didn't include a lot of Emerald's best content.
Going back to X/Y now really shows how rough those games were (especially visually), even compared to OR/AS.
Who exactly are you even talking about? No one thought the games would sell badly
Even though the 3DS games seem to be widely derided here, I had a lot of fun with them. They did have some red flags compared to the superior DS games but they took the series forward in a lot of ways and had plenty to love about them for their flaws. SWSH are the first bad (relative to the series as a whole) games Pokemon has ever put out in my opinion from a context of both quality and series advancement. This is just not good news to me - happy that people are enjoying it, but I'm apparently in a minority of players that are really disappointed with this game and kind of mourning the future of the series if this is what people really want.
We can argue about the nuances but I don't think the suits on top care about the final details.
To be fair, no one thought it would sell poorly, even if the saltiness that happened nonetheless in these threads makes it come off that way.
It seems like there's so many posts on here these days trying to dunk on straw men. Did anyone on the internet actually expect this game to perform poorly? It was always going to print money because it says Pokémon on the box and the Switch is performing incredibly well sales-wise.
One rhetoric I kept reading in the lead up to the Sw/Sh release was "Gamefreak/Nintendo ain't getting any of my money". They seem to have gotten A LOT of money...
this game will be a turning point for the franchise, probably for the worst
X and Y was literally their 1st 3D game and you obviously can tell they built off that game to get to sun and moon
While I don't have numbers, I'd confidently say they had a bigger launch than Red and Blue. As did all Pokemon games. Nintendo said 3 million for November though right? That's the number people should refer to.
nah. the real turning point is when Masuda leaves the producer role
User Warned: Lazy Dev Rhetoric
High sales = good game confirmed.
With the low effort high reward business model I expect it to last long.
With the low effort high reward business model I expect it to last long.
The multiplayer in Sword and Shield is completely atrocious, though. A bunch of it is missing and what is there has borderline unusable matchmaking unless you only want to interact with randoms. Even with randoms, some of it barely works, as it's nearly impossible to get into a raid with a full four human players. Even 3 human players seems pretty uncommon in my experience.
Edit: Also it's only more seamless if we pretend PSS doesn't exist.
How did you manage to sink 150 hours into it?
Under 70 here with a complete Pokedex
Yeah I'm kind of over how poor in quality the games are content wise but I'm still really concerned in general about all these busted ass features and people eating the game up or praising it.
My wife is more patient than me when it comes to games, and she started getting upset at that ridiculous level of trouble we had connecting locally, a lot of these issues are not okay and its actually getting in the way of doing things in the game. It doesn't matter if some people don't care for online or coop play, thats a feature in the game not functioning correctly, its negative period.
It's like if there's a medication that makes many people trip out and see giant spiders chasing them, that's a problem, regardless if I think its fine because it doesn't have that effect on me or I'm not afraid of giant spiders.
This is exactly why I'm not transferring anything over from Gen 7.
I think with a gaming franchise as large as Pokemon, there are a lot of casual fans who don't know of the controversies or just don't care. A significant amount of people who bought SwSh are probably lapsed fans or newcomers to the series.
Totally agree with a lot of the issues folks have with these games, but goddamn I am fucking hooked. I haven't played a Pokemon game in many years, so that probably is a lot of why I'm enjoying it. Things like breeding, shiny hunting, building a team, ect. are all new to me. I've joined Discords, followed Reddits...it's nuts.
I really hope they take a hard look at a lot of these online features, though. The fact that things like date changing for raids and weather is so commonplace really speaks of a huge disconnect between what the player base actually wants and what the devs think they'll enjoy. The Y-Comm is a mess and a better version of it could have fixed a lot of these issues. Knowing a better system was already a part of the series is a huge head scratcher.
I really hope they take a hard look at a lot of these online features, though. The fact that things like date changing for raids and weather is so commonplace really speaks of a huge disconnect between what the player base actually wants and what the devs think they'll enjoy. The Y-Comm is a mess and a better version of it could have fixed a lot of these issues. Knowing a better system was already a part of the series is a huge head scratcher.
This exactly. Hope people are happy with mediocrity because with GF its always 2 steps forward and 3 steps back.
I enjoyed my time with the game, but sales =/= how good a game is anyways. I really hope they do better next time.
People criticize GF for lack of effort. I'm sure they put crazy amount of effort considering they release a game per year.
Money will go in development but money isn't enough without time.
We should criticize Pokemon Company for the yearly releases instead.
Money will go in development but money isn't enough without time.
We should criticize Pokemon Company for the yearly releases instead.