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Pokémon Scarlet and Violet and Spinoff rumors, leaks and Discussion Thread (SPOILERS - Game now out in the wild)
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I always start a new Pokemon Game together with two friends. It was really cool that we could see us in the Wild Area because the game is always in local mode (if you not connect to Online). There was also no performance Problem like in the Online Mode. It's probably really because it is constantly loading new random players. I think it would have been better If they only showed up to three friends online instead of randoms.
Sadly in Legends they won't do it but it would be cool If they develop it to a real co-op with friends in the future.
NSO doesn't have anything to do with the game's handling of that. Mario Maker just had bad netcode
No, it just means there's no guarantee it's gonna sell like a mainline game just because GameFreak calls it one.
So if it sells more than 2 million then the public thinks its a mainline game
Yeah, and they also buy what they know about, and Arceus will get a bigger marketing push than any spin off would ever dream off.
Saw a Discord user replying to another person, arguing and saying it's because Legends doesn't have 2 versions.
Usually, mainline games would have 2 versions of each other (Red / Blue, Ruby / Sapphire, Diamond Pearl, Gold / Silver, Sword / Shield, etc.), but Legends only has 1 version.
Spinoffs would only have 1 version of itself. (Pokemon Rangers: XXX, Pokemon XD: YYY, Pokemon Stadium: ZZZ)
Are these mainline games then?
Tongue in cheek, I know theyre for different consoles. But I don't think dual versions matter. I just think Arceus is single due to lack of trading.
Legends actually does have trading in :)Are these mainline games then?
Tongue in cheek, I know theyre for different consoles. But I don't think dual versions matter. I just think Arceus is single due to lack of trading.
Mystery Dungeon 2 has 2 versions both on the DS, and even a third enhanced version. Mainline confirmed!Are these mainline games then?
Tongue in cheek, I know theyre for different consoles. But I don't think dual versions matter. I just think Arceus is single due to lack of trading.
Hell yeah! XD
Note, about that Discord thing, that was just what I've observed.
I don't know if it's a spin off or not but I do know two of my nephews are skipping BDSP and waiting for Arceus. They don't buy the spin offs besides the youngest eventually bought New Pokemon Snap but not sure why he caved there. I do think they misunderstand what the game is. They still think it's BOTW Pokemon I think.
I'm about 30 hours into Shield, which is my first Pokemon game outside of a little Let's Go, but I bounced off that one because it felt way too simple. Already pre-ordered Arceus.
One thing I'm noticing is how damn negative a lot of Pokemon fans can be. Good lord.
at this point the online pokemon fanbase is hate-playing, showdown, romhacks, and porn.
pokemon straight up lives rent free in people's heads now, just see that chinese monster raising thread from earlier today
You know how you bounced off Sword because you felt it was too simple? Well the games have been heading down that path for the last 8 years, which is what has lead to a lot of the frustration.
Game Freak continues to cater to five year olds despite most of the fanbase being 18+. On top of that, they're just a very mediocre studio from a technical POV -- leading to a situation where the games are getting progressively less fun, looking awful relative to what the hardware is capable of, and often performing poorly too. It's a shitshow from every angle.
And the kicker is that Pokemon is the biggest media property on the planet. When the games sell as much as they do, it makes the incompetence start to look more like indifference imo.
The negativity is earned.
They were talking about bouncing off of Lets Go lmao, but you kind of proved their point
Oops...but what point did I prove? I'm agreeing that there is negativity in the community, and explaining why that is.
Nah I misread initially and thought you were misinterpreting his innocuous comment to go off about SWSH, which is something a lot of those kinds of aforementioned fans would do.
They make most of their money with merchandise and mobile games and not with the mainline games.
Also I'm pretty sure their core audience is still minors and not 18+ people. The later group IS significant but in no way the majority of the fanbase.
mobile games, I'm not sure how the money is split as they don't publish that, but license it
Dude, if anything, Pokemon fans on Era line up to crucify Game Freak for the slightest damn thing.
I'm not sure how you can read the pokemon threads here and say this. Yes Pokemon has its ardent defenders, every franchise does, but we have almost biweekly pokemon threads that just become people airing their grievances every time. The lead-up to BDSP was especially egregious. People have a right to critique but GF does not simply get off here.
The mainline games sell 15+ million copies a pop, and remakes like 8+. Sword at Shield is past 20 million. Meanwhile, the combined sales of Persona 5 and Persona 5 Royal hitting roughly 5 million copies sold is considered a massive success. You can't be serious.
The Pokemon games generate an absurd amount of revenue, and yet you wouldn't know that looking at the presentation of them. Budgets remain low, and features continually get stripped away. And the games are the foundation for all of the wider merchandising opportunities too, so diminishing their role in that is silly anyway.
I mean you say features are getting continually stripped away, but outside of regional gimmicks(Mega evos and Z moves) what was stripped away that was in gen 6 or 7 that was not in Gen 8. Plus thats not counting the new features that were added. The games definitely have a good amount of flaws don't get me wrong( Wild areas look pretty iffy graphically and the game can definitely be easy outside of a few fights), but I think its pretty ingenuous to stay that it is stripped of features that were in previous gens, especially when you factor in the DLC.
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This isnt really the thread to complain about recent entries or go on the defense force for them.
No they are actually correct (except about the mobile games bit)
Pokémon does make a lot of money with the games, but a lot more with the merchandise. People look at sheer revenue and think that's what they get, but it isn't. When you look at merchandise, you have so many hands in the pie there with licensing, production etc.
Mobile too. Each year GO makes around the equivalent in money to a main series game despite its size etc., yet there's so many hands in that pot too. Apple & Google get 30%, then it's split between Niantic, Nintendo, GF, TPC, Creatures etc., reports were that Nintendo got 19%, and that's GO being the biggest Pokémon mobile game by a significant margin
Last year was TPC's most profitable year. They made $170 million profit. Puts things into perspective right?
Also stop this narrative of "budgets remain low", which is 100% not true, and that they continually strip things away. While yes not every feature carries over but have you thought of what content bloat is? They can't just keep adding and adding and adding while keeping everything before. That's unsustainable. Not every Mario game has every previous game's power ups. Does that mean they strip away content?
Not to get further into the argument in this thread, but how big or small of a portion game sales are is not that relevant. The point is that there aren't many games that sell more than ten million copies a year. It doesn't matter that they get most of their money from other sources, that is still huge and his point is that he feels that isn't reflected on the games quality.
I'm remaining steadfast on it just because I think they're going to want to have a preview before the end of the month and a gameplay trailer to precede that. Plus the whole domain registration thing that happened a couple of weeks ago and the accelerating pace of their marketing for the game in recent weeks
I have no idea what the demographics are now, but it started shifting to older after D/P
Subdomains are usually "registered" (Ssl certs are) more than 1 month in advance.
I don't see how an alternate pre-evo would have worked in the first place
I mean that voltorb could have evolved into a new pokemon instead of electrode(ala Runerigus or Kleavor) rather than Hisuian Electrode
I mean if not tomorrow then its probably going to be in January
I mean we got news last week
Even in times of Sun & Moon where we were getting non-stop, the only times we got it the following week was when there were events like Worlds, Gamescom etc.
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