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Only Pokémon in Galar Pokédex can be transferred to Sword & Shield from Pokémon Home; similar restrictions intended for subsequent titles
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Hrm and here we went and named a breeding method after this guy - he literally encouraged people to breed by increasing the shiny rate between 2 different country-of-origin parents! Some of his quotes are truly mind boggling for a guy responsible for many of the best things about the Pokemon series.
So they basically over promised and under delivered. Got it.
Most certainly, it's odd that they would be failing requirements for a in-house project.
Patches exist, but Masuda said they have no plans to make another Pokemon game with all Pokemon.
Yeah I'm thinking it's the latter then. C++ works best with UE. And no I'm not a full time game dev, I have just done some projects in it. Didn't like it. Lol
Ever since 2014, Masuda has had a very misguided view of how people play and enjoy the Pokemon franchise. And in 2019, I feel like his attitude has now rubbed off on the rest of the team.
And yet you, in your seemingly infinite knowledge of game development, didn't see fit to tell us that you do in fact possess that information? I'm aghast.
Your definition of the word "explain" is very broad, I see. That's what most of us would call "speculation." You know, the thing that all of us are doing in here. Nobody knows the exact condition under which this game is being developed, and nobody is denying the general idea that making games is hard. What everyone in here is saying is that having all of the Pokemon is a key component of any game in this series and it is inherently handicapped if they don't reach that bar. That's why a great deal of folks in here would support delaying the game if it meant we could get a full Dex. Literally the only pieces of information that we have are what they've given us: that they revamped Pokemon models and animations to avoid this very same scenario. If we're not allowed to speculate based on that, then what can we speculate on?
It's worse that they don't even think the obvious solution.
"We'll add the others in patches with time".
So I'm guessing we aren't going to really find out who is cut till the game is out or datamined right?
Disappointing news for sure but I'll still buy Sword, and I guess I'll be actually salty if a mon I really like gets cut.
Disappointing news for sure but I'll still buy Sword, and I guess I'll be actually salty if a mon I really like gets cut.
i think its honestly insane that they would think to do this- i get people have been coming up with excuses but they supposedly future-proofed all their models and with no real reason given to why they're not all here i just cant see this as anything but a huge mistake to make
either fix it through patches or delay it, its absurd that they're missing a crucial element of the series
either fix it through patches or delay it, its absurd that they're missing a crucial element of the series
Game Freak are nothing if not incredibly fickle. Hopefully someone dangles some keys in front of his face and he forgets to keep this feature in the next game.
None, cuz I haven't played any single of Pokemon game for almost two decade. That's why I asked about it. And I think I should be fine without worrying about carrying over old pokemons to it. It's like a refresh, new game for me, imo.
Yup, just as I comment the above. SWSH was my very first Pokemon to be purchased. (I just preordered Sword version last Monday, btw)
i always thought it was funny when people said game freak would do one step forward, two steps back with each gen
this shit isn't funny anymore
this shit isn't funny anymore
So checking Reddit reminded me that Pokemon.com has a contact us link where you can send feedback. I believe the correct one for games should be this one: https://support.pokemon.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=360000019993
If you select one of the feedback categories there (probably "Handheld Game Feedback", I guess, since that's how Game Freak seems to see this) you should be able to (preferably respectfully) voice your displeasure. I don't have a lot of hope this will do anything, but direct contact is probably one of the best approaches in situations like these.
If you select one of the feedback categories there (probably "Handheld Game Feedback", I guess, since that's how Game Freak seems to see this) you should be able to (preferably respectfully) voice your displeasure. I don't have a lot of hope this will do anything, but direct contact is probably one of the best approaches in situations like these.
Yea if they just said that no one would give a shit, it'd basically be the same deal as the "no transfering for a month" or whatever period of time at the launch of XY and SM.
A Game Freak employee said just that in fact. Apparently Project Gear is their priority right now.
then maybe its time for nintendo to bite the bullet and buy their 33% of pokemon.
I'm sorry but thus made me laugh. Now you know my pain.
yeah seriously, I think game freak has some stuff i want them to improve at, but I refuse to believe they made the paid home service only for it to be pretty much worthless due to having the majority of the cast being unable to go anywhere.
I still think we will get an update on this where they will clarify the plans for pokes not in the galar dex.
It'll never happen because no matter what stupid decisions gamefreak makes pokemon the games will continue to sell well to the casual pokemon consumer. Even if there are like 1 or 2 million diehards mad about this, they're still a pretty tiny fraction of the total audience.
I'm actually interested in if and how this would work.
What's the fucking point of transferring your older Pokémon to home if a massive chunk can't be used?
The point is to get you to pay them 5 bucks a year so they can hold your Pokemon hostage.
When was this said?
I wonder if they feel stuck on this franchise?
Honestly nothing they've done outside of this has been amazing.
As long as Pokemon still sells 10 million per mediocre entry. This is not going to get better.
Fans brought a STAR WARS Game to it's knees. So we can definitely speak up and try to get them to listen.
Fans brought a STAR WARS Game to it's knees. So we can definitely speak up and try to get them to listen.
It's gonna be funny and kinda depressing if Digimon starts winning out over Pokemon as my go to Mon series. Old Digimon games, while fun, were janky, flawed messes most of the time, but nowadays they are much more polished and even outdo Pokemon in certain areas. They're still budget titles, but things like the signature attack animations in the Cyber Sleuth games feel like they have a lot more love put into them than most Pokemon attack animations. Hell, they've even been accomplishing things on the Vita that even now Pokemon just can't seem to get right. You know, like having three Digimon following you where SnS can't even manage one. They've also been talking about how ambitious they're trying to be with the upcoming Digimon Story game. Right now they have around 400 Digimon modeled that they use throughout their 3D games, and the director of the game has been saying that they want to push that to around 1000 for the next game. Gamefreak could use some of that ambition. It's a little sad that I'm more looking forward to Digimon games giving me my Mon fix now than to anything that's coming in the future for Pokemon. If Digimon would get better about letting you transfer your mons to new games (It's a thing in the Japanese version of the Cyber Sleuth games, but it wasn't brought over anywhere else for some reason) I'd be good to go.
It's so annoying how we had to deal with lots of crap in the 3ds games like shitty framerates, washed out colors and other crap because the high poly models just so GF can pull this. The post complaining about how ResetEra hated GF and how GameFreak never can win are kinda funny now.Never enable GameFreak.
I assume their plan is for us to wait until another main game makes them available (by most likely making unavailable most of the Pokémon that will now appear in SwSh).
So every new game, and every new generation, we'll have to check which Pokémon can be transferred and which ones have to wait for their turn.
I think that will be disgusting af, because now everybody will have to learn which Pokémon are in which games, and the compatibility between versions will be very difficult if not null.
I do like those precious few months where everyone is on even ground and can only use Pokémon found in the game until Bank opens the floodgates... but those gates have to open.
Really makes you wonder what exactly is the point of Pokémon Home at all. They can only be transferred into SS, so why use it at all if those not in the Galar Dex? You're undercutting your own service.
Is this really just to make the next Gen VIII games more appealing since they will have the remaining Pokémon? I can't believe they're simply not ready since Creatures is the one managing the actual Pokémon model creation last I heard.
Really makes you wonder what exactly is the point of Pokémon Home at all. They can only be transferred into SS, so why use it at all if those not in the Galar Dex? You're undercutting your own service.
Is this really just to make the next Gen VIII games more appealing since they will have the remaining Pokémon? I can't believe they're simply not ready since Creatures is the one managing the actual Pokémon model creation last I heard.
It's always something. If a Witcher 3 port can be put on a 32gb cart, so can pokemon. If it's a gameplay/balance issue, they can easily keep certain Pokémon out of gyms. There's no excuse for this
What irks me is that less than two weeks ago Masuda was talking shit about how aware they are about how much fans treasure their Pokemon Collection.
I bet they'll release the next game with a ALL POKEMON AVAILABLE in the marketing. This is SO game freak.
This is such a fuck you to the fanbase. With all the mediocre games they've released since XY, with lack of post game stuff, lack of features and such...
I think i'm gonna skip these. Hopefully fire emblem and astral chain make the rest of the year great.
I think i'm gonna skip these. Hopefully fire emblem and astral chain make the rest of the year great.
Like, to me, this wouldn't be an issue if they didn't put up a pretense, at first, that you could take your Pokemon from game to game, gen to gen, thanks to Pokemon Bank. They've had us pay up to 5 years of subscriptions to a service that promised you'd be able to do just that. Then just two weeks ago, they essentially reinforced that you should consider your living dex or even just your favorite trained Pokemon precious by saying "hey, sorry, we're not continuing Pokemon Bank like we said... but here's ANOTHER service you can transfer them to!"
If they just said "screw it, we're wiping the slate, you'll get the rest in DPP remake/Gen 8 special versions/other future games" without that promise, it'd be one thing. But, essentially, they've lied to their customers. It's only made worse when they implied all the things that differed between LGPE and normal mainline games would be back in Gen 8. Apparently, that's a no!
And I mean, Digimon cuts monsters all the time between entries. People don't get upset because there's no pretense put up that they'll be worth getting attached to outside of the single game you catch and raise them in.
If this was how they were going to handle the sheer number of Pokemon, they shouldn't have even made Pokemon Bank at all. Once they made Pokemon Bank and made it a for-pay service, they did something they cannot easily take back. And doubling down with Pokemon Home just made this inevitable backlash a lot worse.
They can't have their cake and eat it too, basically.
If they just said "screw it, we're wiping the slate, you'll get the rest in DPP remake/Gen 8 special versions/other future games" without that promise, it'd be one thing. But, essentially, they've lied to their customers. It's only made worse when they implied all the things that differed between LGPE and normal mainline games would be back in Gen 8. Apparently, that's a no!
And I mean, Digimon cuts monsters all the time between entries. People don't get upset because there's no pretense put up that they'll be worth getting attached to outside of the single game you catch and raise them in.
If this was how they were going to handle the sheer number of Pokemon, they shouldn't have even made Pokemon Bank at all. Once they made Pokemon Bank and made it a for-pay service, they did something they cannot easily take back. And doubling down with Pokemon Home just made this inevitable backlash a lot worse.
They can't have their cake and eat it too, basically.
This is nothing more than a ploy to get more money.
Want to use X Pokemon in gen Y? Better buy game Z. Don't want to? Well fuck you.
This news really hit me hard since I'm replaying Pokemon SoulSilver currently and my god it is very apparent that Game Freak actually cared back then. You can tell they pulled their souls into these games and held nothing back.
At least with Let's Go they had the excuse of it being a remake and also not a new generation but this?
Sword and Shield feel like a low effort cash grab.
Want to use X Pokemon in gen Y? Better buy game Z. Don't want to? Well fuck you.
This news really hit me hard since I'm replaying Pokemon SoulSilver currently and my god it is very apparent that Game Freak actually cared back then. You can tell they pulled their souls into these games and held nothing back.
At least with Let's Go they had the excuse of it being a remake and also not a new generation but this?
Sword and Shield feel like a low effort cash grab.
I mean, in the original Japanese Masuda says something like, "In summary, we have currently restricted the Pokemon you can transfer between Home and SS to Pokemon in the Gala Region Pokedex." and then shortly after, "More details will come in future interviews." Similar to the official translation but makes it crystal clear that it's just a summary of the change.
So we could very well get that kind of update or we could very well be boned. We will see I guess.
Source: I checked the Japanese myself.
Interesting. I suppose it's worth noting that if Japanese fans are upset too, it's probably looking a bit dire, then...
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