That person's talking about Let's Go Eevee/Pikachu (the remakes of the original games on the Switch), not Pokémon Go (the mobile Niantic game).
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Only Pokémon in Galar Pokédex can be transferred to Sword & Shield from Pokémon Home; similar restrictions intended for subsequent titles
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That's perfectly fine. We weren't even gonna be able to transfer any old Pokémon till Home was launched in 2020. And even if it came at launch, they could have still put a restriction that you have to beat the game before connecting with the app.
It's just insane to think there are Pokémon that are gonna stay in the shadows of Pokémon Home, or stuck at Gen VII for a year or two until a new game comes out and MAAAYBE includes them.
And yes, I love having new Pokémon, but if the large number was gonna become an obstacle at some point, I would've expected them too to release a new game without new Pokémon. It would've been the most logical thing to do if they had to "cut" something. Cut new Pokémon, and just bring a new adventure with the same old Pokémon. Maybe even mix the starter trios, and legendaries and create a new region, with new gyms and characters, with a different assortment of Pokémon, but at the end you're able to bring them all in.
You can have every single Pokémon in the franchise in those games, except Meltan. Not having several of them showing up in the Pokedex is irrelevant, it's good even, it's the easiest shiny charm to get ever.
I personally don't mind that much, but it's understandable why people would be livid about this. Everyone's got their favorite mons, and restricting which ones we can bring over definitely stings. And c'mon, with how much money Pokemon makes, surely Game Freak could afford to staff up and make all Pokemon happen.
My concern is... just exactly how big or small is the Galar Pokedex? Is it gonna be a paltry ~150, or is it gonna be 400+?
My concern is... just exactly how big or small is the Galar Pokedex? Is it gonna be a paltry ~150, or is it gonna be 400+?
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Pokémon needs to evolve and I'm surprised it hasn't since deciding to move to the switch.
They could of gone full BotW with Sword/Shield but decided against it. Based on this I would of assumed they didn't because they were continuing to have 800+ Pokémon available in the game. I guess I was wrong Gamefreak have apparently become lazy and greedy by keeping profit margins high but choosing not to revolutionize the turn based combat gameplay to a more action orientated system (FFXII).
With 800+ Pokémon I do feel a sacrifice is needed however they haven't really improved anything for scarificing 700+ Pokémon.
Unfortunately nothing will change unless Gamefreak give the development reigns to someone else. Can you imagine an open world action-rpg Pokémon game developed by CD Project Red?
This IP deserves better.
They could of gone full BotW with Sword/Shield but decided against it. Based on this I would of assumed they didn't because they were continuing to have 800+ Pokémon available in the game. I guess I was wrong Gamefreak have apparently become lazy and greedy by keeping profit margins high but choosing not to revolutionize the turn based combat gameplay to a more action orientated system (FFXII).
With 800+ Pokémon I do feel a sacrifice is needed however they haven't really improved anything for scarificing 700+ Pokémon.
Unfortunately nothing will change unless Gamefreak give the development reigns to someone else. Can you imagine an open world action-rpg Pokémon game developed by CD Project Red?
This IP deserves better.
How is this a fresh start if I can still transfer some mons from a gba game to this
It's a weird half step
100% Ash and the cast will still be able to use stuff outside of Galar
This may actually be deal breaking for me. We have to raise as much voices as possible to make sure they change their mind on this. Delay the game if they have to. Animal Crossing got delayed for better quality. Pokemon can as well.
I'd rather they hire more people to make this right since their is one of the most popular and lucrative franchise in the world.
My Shiny Rayquaza, that I manage to get it by trade on Diamond. One of the best moments in gaming for me.
Seriously, Pokemon is one of the biggest franchises in the world. Their games sell millions and millions, and sell millions of consoles too. We already had to deal with the most convoluted nonsense to be able to pass from game to game, and now not even that?
Seriously, Pokemon is one of the biggest franchises in the world. Their games sell millions and millions, and sell millions of consoles too. We already had to deal with the most convoluted nonsense to be able to pass from game to game, and now not even that?
False. Removing the outline was everything they did. Stop defending GF.
This sounds like the opposite of what they said in pokemon the conference . What the hell happened?
I remember being annoyed by HMs getting in the way of transferring between games (surfing Pikachu/Raichu being the biggest annoyance) but this is even worse. I guess this is another reason to wait for the second iterations of these games a year or two down the line.
Same here.
This may actually be deal breaking for me. We have to raise as much voices as possible to make sure they change their mind on this. Delay the game if they have to. Animal Crossing got delayed for better quality. Pokemon can as well.
I was disappointed in XY, Didn't Finish Sun/Moon, Didn't even buy an Ultra version... and now I might skip entirely.
I mean I doubt Galar is 100% original Pokemon, so like in Gen 6 and 7, the Galar dex will be a mix. Pikachu will be there
But we'll miss a lot of mons
no b/c its a time restraint. its this or delay by 2 years. I will take this.
Because GF is a small, indie studio, with 5 people working.
Holy shit why people defend GF??? This is atrocious.
Holy shit why people defend GF??? This is atrocious.
The combat doesn't need to change. The core game is competitive and it's balanced to be turn based. The whole system would have to be remade from scratch and it'd cause a lot of trouble to rebalance everything, it's simply not worth the money they'd spend and most of people would be turn down by this. The combat SHOULDN'T EVER change.
Eh, it wouldn't surprise me if they patch in the national dex after release. Does suck that it's not in there at launch though.
This doesn't impact my play style in any way and in a vacuum I wouldn't care
But it's a big deal for many of y'all so I'll raise my voice too
But it's a big deal for many of y'all so I'll raise my voice too
If they had the intention of doing so they would have immediately made that clear to preempt the fallout that is currently occurring.
GameFreak has shown they have never given one shit about what the fans want.
I've been playing these games since the game boy days, they've always been a mess.
Game Freak isn't going to ever be able to properly balance these games and throwing half the roster in the trash in a misguided attempt to get the game out faster or avoid acquiring more people/resources isn't the solution.
The combat has had some significant changes though. Generation 2 introduced the special stat split, weather conditions, and attaching items to Pokemon. Generation 3 introduced abilities and double battles. Generation 4 introduced the physical/special split and online battling.
But since Diamond and Pearl 13 years ago, the battle system has basically remained the same. All we've gotten are single generation gimmicks with no staying power and a new type.
With enough backlash they might CONSIDER adding all the Pokémon in a future game, eventually, years from now.
I don't think at this point they're gonna include the Pokémon they have already cut, because they must be refining other details of the games already. Probably the game's system isn't even designed to support Pokémon that don't appear in the Galar Dex, and would be difficult to sneak them in after whatever they have developed already.
If only they had kep the idea they had for Pokemon B&W where you could only find new pokemons (until you reach the post game). Maybe then it would have been easier to transition to this formula where not all the old pokemons are available on the game.
Anyway this makes the pokebank thing they have going on seem useless
Anyway this makes the pokebank thing they have going on seem useless
This thread is very clearly divided between people who understand what this actually means, which is just having the game data in the game so the competitive scene has access to the full roster, and people who don't
As recently as 2016 GameFreak did this, they've shown, over every generation, that programming that many pokemon isn't a problem, balancing that many pokemon isn't a problem, and as exhibited by the existence of the XY models in Sword and Shield, modeling that many pokemon is a largely solved problem
As recently as 2016 GameFreak did this, they've shown, over every generation, that programming that many pokemon isn't a problem, balancing that many pokemon isn't a problem, and as exhibited by the existence of the XY models in Sword and Shield, modeling that many pokemon is a largely solved problem
Models done in 3D since Gen 6 are high quality due to the supposed future proofing of each Pokemon. There's nothing holding then back from importing the remaining models in with new textures. Every game from Gen 3 onwards has had forwards compatibility. And every mainline game includes previous Pokemon in its code even if they aren't available. (Ruby/Sapphire)
It sounds like here the Pokemon aren't even all programmed in the game which makes no sense.
It sounds like here the Pokemon aren't even all programmed in the game which makes no sense.
It's clear that all Pokemon will be transferable to Pokemon Home, so I think that will be their secure place while the mainline games will start rotating them in and out by having different regional dexes. This makes the budget and timeline of the games more manageable while letting each game have its own competitive metagame that is hopefully better thought-out.
It is still very disappointing to not have a definitive game that has every single Pokemon though. Hopefully Pokemon Home will get extra features over time, perhaps even battling, so that it can become the all-encompassing competitive metagame.
It is still very disappointing to not have a definitive game that has every single Pokemon though. Hopefully Pokemon Home will get extra features over time, perhaps even battling, so that it can become the all-encompassing competitive metagame.
That is your subjective opinion and if you don't like the quality, you don't need to buy the games.
But i find it terrible, in the wake of the danger of crunch time to underestimate the time and money, which goes into making a game. I belive, that Game Freak found a good balance, which works for the people there and the majority of the audience.
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