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EvilChameleon

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I mean yeah, Jenny falsely arrested Ash and crew all the time in the original series. Brock had to use his gym badge as identification.
 

Birdie

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Close Enough Pikachu Episode

Uh???? Weird episode. Made me realize that Cinderace isn't near as charming as Raboot now. Kind of cute Cinderace is more like Ash and Lucario is more like Goh, but their weird fighting here felt off since they've only worked together in perfect unison so far outside here against Eternatus and Mewtwo.

But yah for Sawk and Throh.

Eevee Episode

The Eevee people still came off as kind of shady even in the end...basically forcibly evolving Eevee?

I liked the detail of Goh still having to take tests, and the school having a playground for the student Pokemon was fun...it's so weird how this is a "normal school" after all of last season being The Pokemon School. But I kind of like it.

Team Rocket had fun costumes this episode, and I liked Pelliper stepping up, but it kind of bothered me to see them stealing from non-Trainer children who are basically normal folks. Doesn't bother me when it's like Ash or the Alola kids because they're not really normal kids, but in this setting it's just kids like in our world who have Pokemon like folks have pets.

Fossil Episode

Wow that dude almost killed Koharu and was like...oops.

A fun episode that did a good job showcasing the new Fossil Pokemon and their gimmick. Not much else to say. Cara Liss and her anime partner were fun...there's no character like that in the games I forgot about right? Kind of a shame they didn't use the Digging Brothers though.

I like how they always make Galar so foggy, but at the same time it always feels...oddly empty. Just like the games am I right? But nah there's always this weird feeling whenever they're in Galar compared to the other Regions.

Farfetched Episode

They remembered Gengar! But oh noooo where's Dracovish?

This was a fun battle episode, kind of felt very Diamond and Pearlish...with even a nice plot thread at the end with Rinto. Hopefully they don't just forget about it.

But fuck all that the real hype was seeing Gurdurr get essentially a spotlight episode. I've always liked the Timburr line but iirc they never got much focus in BW, sort of always just in the background or minor goons. I think Trip had one and when your best role is a Trip Pokemon that's dreadful.
 
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But fuck all that the real hype was seeing Gurdurr get essentially a spotlight episode. I've always liked the Timburr line but iirc they never got much focus in BW, sort of always just in the background or minor goons. I think Trip had one and when your best role is a Trip Pokemon that's dreadful.
Not only that, but Trip's Conkeldurr lost all the battles it was on. As a Timburr, it got defeated by Oshawott. As a Gurdurr, it was defeated by Dwebble. And as a Conkeldurr, Emboar took it down. On the bright side, all three were nice battles!


The summary for the Morpeko episode is out and eww. Serious potential to be one of the worst episodes on the series, let's see how many off-screen moments they manage to cram in order to make James and Meowth miss the nasty recolored minion.
 

Inukage

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Oct 25, 2017
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Do we know when the next batch of dubbed episodes will hit Netflix US? My kids are getting anxious.
Part 5 was scheduled for this month, but strange we haven't heard anything yet.

All we got was the banner for it.

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Lucas M. Thomas

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Right. I thought it was supposed to be June too, but then they decided to change the name to Master Journeys and frame it like a new series. And it's not listed on the usual "Here's what's coming to Netflix this month" lists:

www.hollywoodreporter.com

Netflix’s New Releases Coming in June 2021

Take a look at the movies and TV shows that will hit the streaming service next month.

So, maybe July? Hopefully it hasn't been pushed back too much.
 

diakyu

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I don't want to see NO ONE here tomorrow talking about how bad this week's episode is if they didn't stan Ash with Grookey 👀👀👀
 
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What's the summary?

I'm sad they seemingly dropped Chewtle for Morpeko.
Courtesy of Adamant:

The Rocket Gang has resolved to release the Morpeko that gets in a bad mood a soon a it gets hungry back into the wild... but even though Kojiro and Nyarth approved of Musashi's plan, they start missing it more and more...

Summary:
The Morpeko has settled down in the Rocket Gang's hideout is a massive glutton that's even eaten the cakes Musashi saved for later and the food Kojiro thought he had hidden inside their safe. It's recently started eating more than ever, leading the Rocket Gang to start thinking they won't be able to perform their mission if this keeps up, so they resolve to release it back into the wild. But...?!


Watching the preview, we see that Morpeko somehow shares its berry with James and I guess those things + other magical moments will make Team Rocket want Morpeko. I mean, after tons of episodes where the punchline is "haha starving the villains to death is fun" (like this week's episode), the next one will feature moments so life-changing that everything will be solved. I shouldn't be this pessimistic, but this is Journeys, no trust left.


I liked this episode more than the equivalent that aired like 6 years before, because the trainer and pokémon interactions were strong and we got a ton of great things. First of all, yeah, this is how you write Ash! His pokémon get to breathe some fresh air and he comes up with plans and ideas that show his experience. Gengar and Sirfetch'd need more love like this. Koharu was also on point, and Eevee as well- I really think this is the best main cast Eevee ever. I liked how Koharu was worried but went with Ash's plan and how her bond with Eevee let the episode shine. Eevee being the one who actually did the errand was cool! The dynamic of Ash, Koharu and Goh keeps being strong, they need to be together more episodes.

On the other hand, you got the whatever the heck is supposed to be Goh and Grookey. The spoiled monkey did almost nothing to be helpful, it was more of a hindrance to Eevee- but since the episode had to have a happy ending and Goh and his Pokémon are not allowed to develop on-screen, it got full-credit for being annoying. Team Rocket's was excellent, the silliness was so good and I loved their version of the errand plot (Pelipper is another example of "this Pokémon should be there as a team member all time")- however, it comes crashing down just to get another "aren't we so funny by making their lives miserable???? laugh everybody!!!!!" moment. Ugh. This episode was so close to be one of the great ones.
 

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Funny how Ash is the mature one :v

More Koharu / Goh competitiveness pls.
Also lmao at trying to disguise with Ash's clothes, what? xD
 

Birdie

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Diglett Episode

This felt like a Johto filler. I don't mean that in a bad way necessarily (though it's a slow episode) but plot wise. The gang come across an individual who uses Pokemon as part of their livelihood, they're having an issue, the gangs helps, and Team Rocket are either responsible or inadvertently help solve the issue.

But of course here we have the extra framing device of it being an old friend of Professor Sakuragi, and also using it to show Koharu contributing to the group which makes it a bit better.

Voltorb was sort of a weird choice for a feature Pokemon alongside Diglett, as personally using it as uh weed removal seems like a bizarre use for the Pokemon, but it makes sense kind of...it's sort of a nice counterpart to Diglett being the opposite Type, very fast, and simplistically designed. Also as a long time anime fan this is the reverse of the time the Clint Eastwood dude used Diglett to get rid of Voltorb and Electrode in OI, and then there was a Hoenn episode where a Electrode (disguised as a watermelon) helped protect a farmer's crops. As an anime fan this felt like a love letter to me moreso than a love letter to just the games like Journeys often feels like.

Team Rocket kind of weren't doing anything wrong intentionally lol...I mean they messed with the Diglett territory on accident, but is that much different than Ash and co. beating them up and catching them? I thought Gou giving the farmer Dugtrio was weird...a nice gesture but, uh, instead of letting it go he basically guaranteed a life of servitude for it? Atleast with Gou it could chill out at the Laboratory Park. The moral ramifications of this season of the anime are muddier than ever.

I kept wondering if the show was gonna acknowledge the fact the farmer lost all his hair but they never did...I kept waiting for Koharu to mention that. Also, HOW the fuck did the farmer, who was also a former Pokemon researcher, not know about Diglett being good for the soil? He had to have Gou tell him that? It's, like, his fucking job to know that.

 

Birdie

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I guess it makes sense cuz Jessie technically has a comic relief Pokemon in Wobbuffet still (even though by all metrics he's basically shared)
 
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Surprisingly, the lab parts were very good. Finally some good crumbs I can munch. And also some great TR antics.

Other than that, strong contender for worst episode of the series. The magical moments that make James grow fond of Morpeko only happened here lol, they didn't even bother to do off-screen things this time. Congrats TR, you are finally allowed to have a Pokémon and its one that hates your guts and also lets you suffer and starve. Those are definitely the kinds of bonds I'm here for, the true quality screentime for these characters. (sad how even that abuse bond is more bond than Goh with 90% of his Pokemon lol)
 

Galkinator

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I have no idea if it's marketing for anything specific, but there was this animation released last week that I've seen just now:


Beautiful episode. The pokemon shorts on youtube are always great
 

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I find it amusing that:
1) James reads a kids' newspaper :v
2) In the Pokemon world, where Gou didn't even know what a phone box was, exists a printed newspaper for kids!
 

Birdie

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Suicune Episode

It always bugs me when wild Pokemon seemingly just let themselves get beat up unless the main characters come in and our like "hey fight back".

What else to say? Um, I don't mind Gou catching Suicune, it's low tier enough and not necessarily a master of anything important. Also Gou freezing the villains but leaving their heads free made me laugh, like we've had people getting frozen solid before and they were fine. I'm no scientist but it seems like leaving one body part unfrozen would do more harm than freezing everything?

Intelleon Episode

Where did Team Rocket get that car?

Inteleon is kind of a weird Pokemon for me, a cool idea but awkward execution but the anime made me like it a bit more---it having a second eyelid it uses was a cool little tidbit I don't think appears in Sword and Shield?

Sobble was cute this episode but U-Turn feels like an odd move. It makes sense in the games but in the anime it just feels off to have a Pokémon just return---and in this case right back into a jail cell. Maybe it'll be more interesting when we see it in an actual battle.

Ponyta Episode

Cute episode utilizing a fun location from Sword and Shield and featuring Galar Pokemon and characters---too far and few between in my opinion because I want to see stuff I haven't in the anime before.

I don't get why they did a weird "lol was it a dream" ending...I guess that was what they were going for? That she fell asleep reading the book she found at the beginning of the episode. But then Morelul being in the ending means it wasn't? Or could Gou have caught a Morelul elsewhere offscreen and it was a dream? Help!

Wikstrom Episode

Take a fucking boring game character and turned him interesting! Wikstrom seems like he should've been in Sword and Shield in some capacity (also I still think there was an intent to make him related to Grimsley imo given they're both from noble families, similar design and Japanese names, and Grimsley's ace is the Steel Bisharp) but oh well...

Farfetched honestly gets the most actual character development of Ash's Pokemon this time around. It felt like the others got all their character development in their capture debut, and that was that---Riolu evolved but did he really ever grow outside of just winning against Grapploct after losing? Not really. So it was good to see this episode carry on from Farfetch's last episode.

Farfetch'd's?

I kept thinking Scyther wearing the knight armor counted as the Metal Coat and it was gonna evolve to resist Klefki's Fairy Wind. Was kind of lame it was just "lol hey here's a metal coat let's trade it". I mean that's how it works in the games but I wish the anime took liberties here, especially as the idea of trading a Pokemon to evolve it feels weird in the show---especially when they don't even bother showing what it was traded with.

Also chalk up another herculean feat of strength for Ash---wearing heavy armor, holding a giant leek, and using his body to suspend himself in the middle of a well.
 

Birdie

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Falinks episode coming up...

Wonder if an Ash capture is possible? There's really no reason he can't easily have more than six Pokemon this time around (I mean counting Falinks as one mind you)...

I guess he technically does if you consider Mr. Mime "his".
 
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Alright so Goh hasn't started trial missions yet, everything after Alolan Ninetales might now be legendaries, and possibly not relocation

Only 3 more Project Mew members will be selected, obviously Gary and Goh, but will the team just run out of time and let Ash tag along?

They'll apparently be going to the world's largest mountain, so Ash should just say he has physical climbing skills
 

DNAbro

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Oct 25, 2017
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Just caught up on like the last 10 or so episodes. Excited that the Project Mew stuff isn't a one and done thing.
 

Quinton

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Okay, so. My friend and I finally made it through all of the Sun/Moon episodes.

Not gonna lie, I was hoping I'd like this "saga" more than I did, based on some of the sterling impressions I saw on Era at the time. I'm not allergic to slice of life or anything (though it's hardly my favorite genre) but man, I just did not care about most of these kids at all. I think the crux is that I kept hearing the show is legitimately funny, and... if anything, it was less funny than what preceded it?

Bewear aside, that is. Bewear and Stufful are the GOATs here.

Everybody had paper-thin ambitions and Sophocles in particular was worse-than-Cilan levels of bad. Nobody else was downright ugh, but no one stood out either.

Highlights: the early arc with the villainous Lusamine (before she's good lol); the Team Skull stuff because Topp's dub voice is incredulous; a couple of Mallow outings; and the Alolan League most of all. It took a long time to get there, but the battles were great (if brief, Kukui aside).

Kalos > Sinnoh > Kanto > Hoenn > Johto > Alola > Unova, I think. We didn't hate it or anything (we would have stopped if we did) but as my friend put it, end stretch aside, the show was just constantly stuck on the qualitative x-axis the whole way through.

Oh, and omg, Ash's departure was even worse than usual. He didn't even say goodbye to any of his Alolan Pokemon.
 

diakyu

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Looks like we have another Alola ep coming 👀

Also Lunar Duo two parter
 
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Okay, so. My friend and I finally made it through all of the Sun/Moon episodes.

Not gonna lie, I was hoping I'd like this "saga" more than I did, based on some of the sterling impressions I saw on Era at the time. I'm not allergic to slice of life or anything (though it's hardly my favorite genre) but man, I just did not care about most of these kids at all. I think the crux is that I kept hearing the show is legitimately funny, and... if anything, it was less funny than what preceded it?

Bewear aside, that is. Bewear and Stufful are the GOATs here.

Everybody had paper-thin ambitions and Sophocles in particular was worse-than-Cilan levels of bad. Nobody else was downright ugh, but no one stood out either.

Highlights: the early arc with the villainous Lusamine (before she's good lol); the Team Skull stuff because Topp's dub voice is incredulous; a couple of Mallow outings; and the Alolan League most of all. It took a long time to get there, but the battles were great (if brief, Kukui aside).

Kalos > Sinnoh > Kanto > Hoenn > Johto > Alola > Unova, I think. We didn't hate it or anything (we would have stopped if we did) but as my friend put it, end stretch aside, the show was just constantly stuck on the qualitative x-axis the whole way through.

Oh, and omg, Ash's departure was even worse than usual. He didn't even say goodbye to any of his Alolan Pokemon.

Wholly agree that the Alolan companions are the worst in the series' history, none developed beyond being cheerleaders except Lillie

That's why Journeys ep 37's lampshading of how much of a void of nothing they are all compared to Goh was funny

July 2nd has a TBA title of "Pre-Summer Vacation Special" so I don't think that's Alola if it's calling itself before summer?
 
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lvl 99 Pixel

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Alola was the best anime by a country mile though, and the "villain arc" is the worst part of it, like pretty much all of Pokemon games and anime.
Best Team Rocket.
Best comedy gags.
Best animation style.
Best individual battles.
Best emotional scenes.
Best ending (BY FAR).
 

Quinton

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Alola was the best anime by a country mile though, and the "villain arc" is the worst part of it, like pretty much all of Pokemon games and anime.
Best Team Rocket.
Best comedy gags.
Best animation style.
Best individual battles.
Best emotional scenes.
Best ending (BY FAR).

Best ending? The last episode was completely middling!
 

Roliq

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Alola is the best because Ash finally won the League and the final match against Kukui was one of the best in the series (fuck you Cameron/Alain/Tobias)


Also Bewear

 

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Honestly, when 2019 started it really highlighted how weird the previous animation was, fluid yes, but too wobbly most of the time.
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2019 is the best the characters have looked.

And the league was clearly a gag when this was made legal:
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Goh = Kanto > Hoenn > Johto > Isshu > Alola > Sinnoh > Kalos
 

lvl 99 Pixel

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Best ending? The last episode was completely middling!

Kukui and Burnet, Lillie and her brother leaving. Only emotion i've really felt for a season ending. Not to mention that final battle vs an actual canonical last boss from a game vs the closest thing he's had to a father. Its far and away the best, like the others aren't even close.

Honestly, when 2019 started it really highlighted how weird the previous animation was, fluid yes, but too wobbly most of the time.
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You know it was mostly one animator doing all the work, right? other big sakuga scenes had other animators, but for the most part it was Its easily the most animated season, with characters always moving in the backgrounds and endless animation gags. The occasional weird looking frame people post for "look how bad it is" was always either in bad faith or just a total misunderstanding of animation as a medium. 2019 has had some nicely animated scenes a few times, but a lot of the time its a bit static in comparison.

The character animation in particular is wildly expressive for a long running tv series, even like the random butler dude or this guy , there's just hundreds of these little moments. I don't think its reasonable to call this "wobbly". Here's 2019, which while still much, much more impressive than earlier seasons is yet to have half as many posts yet.

Canipa effect did a great breakdown of this series shift toward animation as a priority. P1 P2

I like the first few seasons of the anime having grown up with them, but in general the show had a slump in the middle for a looooong time before becoming legitimately good.

2019 is the best the characters have looked.

Ignoring the "Rowlet didn't make sense so its a fake win" shit because have you seen the older league battles? have you SEEN Ash Greninja?
I don't think its the best the characters have looked since these are mostly new characters not even from the games, while Sun and Moon was really the first time everyone was a recurring character and he didn't go up against/lose to anime-only OC trainers in some ridiculous fashion.
 
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Biestmann

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Alola felt a tad aimless to me, but it had some surprisingly emotional Pokemon-centric episodes. I thought Kalos was the perfect journey myself, and had a great villain arc too, best of the show. I'd probably place Alola middle of the road, but I can see why it tops a lot of people's charts too.
 

Moara

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Aloha was by far the most I connected to the setting and characters. It was the most tight knit group of the series, and Satoshi literally had a family over there lol. The ending where he needs to leave and Kukui and Burnet hug him is easily the most emotion the show ever got out of me
 

Quinton

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The night Serena lost her contest had a greater emotional pull for us than everything that ever happened in Alola. I wouldn't even begin to know how folks get so attached to the Alolan cast. Kukui aside, they range from vanilla to just plain bad.

And I still can't get over Ash not saying a thing to the Pokemon he leaves behind. He raised that Rockruff. He gave that Litten hope. WTF, Ash.

I thought Kalos was the perfect journey myself, and had a great villain arc too, best of the show.

Yeah, handily so. I really like Sinnoh, but Kalos takes the cake with that end stretch.
 

lvl 99 Pixel

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Kalos had some great battle (and performance) animation at times, but the anime-only nonsense went far and beyond stupid. Everything about Greninja growing Ash-hair with lightning bolt decals and being a powerup nobody else in the world has ever had before just felt like it wasn't Pokemon any more. Losing to anime OC's who were invented to showcase Mega evolutions is some shit too, especially with how pitiful the loss reason is.

Team Rocket kinda sucked in Kalos, they're doing the same old shtick and Alola was the biggest breath of fresh air in that regard. Easy best TR.
Filler eps are some of the most WTF stupid in Kalos too, like Ash finding a rock in a cave that teleports him to a bizarro world where he runs into not-Ash.

Gou might be the greatest trainer of all time.
This dude is catching them all. Fuck the trophies.

He's using gameshark considering he can basically just throw regular pokeballs at beefy full HP Pokemon. I honestly hate this character more than any other sidekick lmao.
Its not just the pokeball tossing at everything that moves, either (which seems really gross in the anime as its feels more like poaching in a series that generally had them willingly join or battle first), but the way he treated Scorbunny just because its not Mew is the most entitled and shitty thing I can think a character has done in the history of supporting cast in the Pokemon Anime. Its just a bastardization.


Aloha was by far the most I connected to the setting and characters. It was the most tight knit group of the series, and Satoshi literally had a family over there lol. The ending where he needs to leave and Kukui and Burnet hug him is easily the most emotion the show ever got out of me

The music helped too. The new composer is good in a different way, but its not the same losing long time staff.
 
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Birdie

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It legit upsets me Scorbunny went to being Goh's best friend to seemingly being left in the dust and chilling by itself at the lab. I mean it was basically set up as his Pikachu.

I guess it's supposed to represent switching Buddy Pokémon in Go, and they shifted to Sobble and now Grookey, but god it bothers me. Poor Cinderace is starting to appear as frequently as Gengar.