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Please stop referring to women as "females" (READ OP)
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So if it's a legit noun then there should really be not much of an issue here.
I cant tell if all these people wondering why not are actually serious...
Probably lol
Probably lol
I didn't. I said that men should listen to women when they say these things. You're welcome to disagree with OP.
With a large amount of people who don't speak English as their first language and a bunch of people who take pride in not reading too well to make jokes quickly, I think in threads like these you can't write up a normal 'hey this is weird can you not do this thanks' if you want your point across you need solid examples and a clear straightforward message. The post with the checkmarks is already better but it's halfway down the first page so most aren't going to see it and the threads already degreased into some weird whats a noun or an adjective direction and it all could have been avoided.
Haha! Well actually, you got me there. I just dislike seeing the word so much I disregarded all of the context with your post haha
Because people online are usually very different from the average person.
Females is absolutely valid in my eyes, as it correctly describes humans of any age and female sex, whereas women includes only humans of female sex from a (underspecified) age. Same goes for males, of course. I can think of only very few instances, where "females and men" makes any sense (i.e. iff you specifically want to exclude boys, but include girls; though adults and girls would be equivalent). I cannot see a scientifically correct denomination as dehumanising.
Women tend to themselves use 'boy' to refer to guys more often, especially if they're roughly the same age or younger, same for girls with other women. Girl or boy can be kinda... patronizing if said a certain way but that's a lot to do with tone and context. I tend to use 'men' and 'boys' and 'women' and 'girls' interchangeably. Unless I'm referring to someone middle aged or older and I'll say something more... respecting like gentleman or lady or something.
This has only been an American thing and a largely social media thing. It's a ridiculous thing to get hung up on, especially when women don't see a problem with babe, girl, chick and in many cases bitch.
But, as the landscape of language changes, people have the right to be referred as whatever they wish. If you don't want to be called female, it's no skin off my nose, even if I think the reasoning is silly.
Have to say though, the people who complain about "kid" really have too much time on their hands.
But, as the landscape of language changes, people have the right to be referred as whatever they wish. If you don't want to be called female, it's no skin off my nose, even if I think the reasoning is silly.
Have to say though, the people who complain about "kid" really have too much time on their hands.
Seriously though, who the fuck says "females" in casual conversation unless it's some sort of scientific topic dealing with sexes including and/or beyond humans?
As for "bitches", yea, I get that. Even I used to use the term while playing cards with my buddies left right and center a couple of years back. Context and relationship matters when using contentious terms like that.
what i don't understand is that men also use "woman" in a demeaning way. and personally i've seen "woman" being used offensively more often than "female" so where does this end?
"what a nasty woman"
remember that?
although i do agree that using "female" when building certain sentences sounds super weird
"what a nasty woman"
remember that?
although i do agree that using "female" when building certain sentences sounds super weird
Oh you got it! Everything is offensive!!! That's clearly all this is.
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i cant imagine those types of people would want to call them females either
Right, and I'm all for that, but 'too clinical' is great distance from 'dehumanising as fuck'. I am a human, and as so I am also an animal, a mammal more specifically. For people to be offended by terms because they acknowledge humans as animals is just beyond stupid to me. You're already winning, we're already by orders of magnitude the winning species, do we have to pretend we're not even in the same biological domain? It's absurd.
As for 'African American', as an English person, no one says African European or whatever, so everyone says black here, but 'blacks', even though correct, I would go out of my way to avoid saying for some reason. I don't know why, nor would I use whites.
I also wouldn't put it past people if they don't even know how to use the word properly... how many people still can't use the proper their/there/they're?
*sigh*
No.
I didn't say that men should listen to singular women as th voice of all women on any given subject matter. I said they should listen. It's not a difficult concept.
Fuck all this "I just don't understand" nonsense. It isn't hard. It's such a weak excuse too. Referring to men as men and women as female has the clear connotation that you're not referring to women as people. Doesn't matter if that's not how you mean it. Learn some intraspection for once.
According to some girls is worse, because it implies you view them as adolescents (boys etc)
I'm sorry, but these types of arguments are a crock of shit. Saying that any random person has carte blanche to change vocabulary, discussion, and dictionary usage based on the feeling of a single person, or a small subset of people. I'm all for advocating for meaningful change or against derogatory language, but this nebulous middle ground requires discussion. It can't just be handwaved away that people who disagree are 'mansplaining'.
In that case, it'd be a "girl", just as a 6 year old male human would be a "boy".
yeah, but you can use "girl", "kid", "little woman" or any other synonym before falling back to counting people like they have to be sized for slaughter.
Bruh some people prefer being called African American. Most of them older folks who pushed back against being called colored or who got caught up in the 70s new wave of African heritage exploration.
Their kids mostly prefer to be called black as long as those kids don't come from 1st maybe 2nd gen immigrants.
No one made the argument "'females' is not scientifically correct".
This kind of made-up psychological analysis is just as gratuitous and cringey as the phenomenon it tries to "explain".
Then "women" is fine generally, unless you're writing or talking formally. You'd have to give context for me to go more into detail.
Gender theory meets linguistic prescriptivism. This will be a fun thread!
I would never refer to someone as "a female" because I also think it sounds weird too, but folks here are suggesting that you can somehow infer a whole host of negative personality traits from this, which is not how language works.
I would never refer to someone as "a female" because I also think it sounds weird too, but folks here are suggesting that you can somehow infer a whole host of negative personality traits from this, which is not how language works.
Okay cool. Thanks for providing more info. I never feel insulted when I get called "boy". Its usually said in fun. Lol
Although isn't there a certain implication when you say men and women? Like if you say women, you're referring to a group of adult females, so it may not be appropriate to use women if you're talking about a group that comprises of both female adults and female children.
I'm not gonna accept that excuse when they're already showing rather fluent English ability. Also, adjectives and nouns are pretty much in all languages, so the difference is pretty obvious. I barely know Spanish, but I understand that the adjective "mojado" means wet and isn't offensive. But if I use it as a noun to for a Latin American person, then it is offensive.
Do you understand the difference between an adjective and a noun?
This is not an English-exclusive problem.
What kind of rationalization is this? Boatloads of offensive words are "legit" words. That doesn't make them okay to use.
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