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Please stop referring to women as "females" (READ OP)
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Yeah, it sounds too clinical to be a part of everyday speech. In a scientific context, it's fine. You see both male and female used quite frequently in a statistical context.
serious question, are you ok with people calling humans mammals?
That's why you've gotta watch it! Because it's impossible to forget afterwards.
I've done this before without realizing it and I don't say it anymore, but to make a snap judgement and say it says something about my character also says something about you.
This seems like the kind of distinction that requires a high level of English knowledge and not something done out of spite or malice.
It reminds me of how some people get upset when someone says the democrat party. 99% of people don't know the grammar rules behind that
The fact that so many people ITT seemingly can't differentiate between the adjective and the noun might actually explain why this is even a thing.
It's literally 1st grade English! "High level" my ass, kids these days, grumble grumble grumble rant
It's literally 1st grade English! "High level" my ass, kids these days, grumble grumble grumble rant
https://www.resetera.com/threads/as-a-black-male-is-your-best-friend-is-a-white-male.33890/
Maybe you should post your concerns in that thread. Those males seem to be oblivious to the self-dehumanization they are causing
There are a large number of males on this forum.
I wouldn't necessarily use men in this context because it would be inaccurate.
The use of male or female can be creepy based on the context and not simply based on the fact that it's being used as a noun.
Can we stop calling the NBA, MLB and NFL winners the World Champions while we're at it?
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Especially on this forum.
If you want to make a psa do it where it matters.
God, I hate English sometimes...
I get your female/the female thing entirely (seriously, this post is solid example, and it's easy to understand the situation thanks to it, so thanks for clarifying it), but you gotta admit sometimes form/noun/adjectives gets confusing in English because it is not always consistent. I have to deal with it myself more often than I like because sometimes I need a noun, but a person tries to use and adjective and vice verse.
"i went to the post office to pick up my male"
that one will keep you busy for a while
People don't usually like being compared to animals. And again, this is where you're getting into the fact it sounds way too clinical and is about animals usually, which all ties into the dehumanizing part.
really i wish i was a superhero whose ability allowed them to discern the intent of a poster on the internet
Except when it's progresssive terms like "toxic" and "problematic", then they're ready to jump down everyone else's throats.
Yeah, it's clear as hell in the definition. It's also a noun, like "male".
Yeah, it definitely doesn't sound good. In German it'd be like saying "Weibchen" instead of "Frau" and that would sound like you're talking about a female animal.
"Female coworkers" is okay though. An issue would be saying "the females I work with".
Everything is offensive these days (well, at least in the USA). Seriously, I don't use the word (English is not my primary language) but I would have never guessed it was offensive.
I don't see why it is offensive. I would use it as a synonym of woman.
I don't see why it is offensive. I would use it as a synonym of woman.
Example
"I can't remember his name I think he was a black guy "
I'm a single black male looking for a future wife"
Man would sound better I respect those though who don't want to called something.
Other than police and job applications I don't see it used a lot vocally
It's definitely used with intent to dehumanize women for people with that agenda. It's insidious because a lot of other people just use it in normal parlance and don't mean anything buy it. I wouldn't say the term itself is bad but considering how it has been co-opted by people with an agenda against women, it shows a lot of maturity and consideration to just get out of the habit of using it yourself.
If everyone changed their behaviour based on a single persons opinion, we would live in a horribly backwards place. Context is everything. It isn't the word 'females' that's the problem, it's how it's used and the type of people that general use it. This is the first I've heard of this being an 'offensive' term, and quite frankly, i thought this thread was a legitimate joke.
No. You are not my mother. /:P
Seriously, however, what's wrong with "female" terminology? I am all for eradicating sexism and minimizing gendered pronouns but I have heard sexists use the term "women" during their verbal farts. If this is about grammatical consistency like shown in your previous posts, then yes, I do see it being misused.
So, I will respectfully keep on using the term as long as I am pairing men with women, male with female, male/men or female/women separately when and where appropriate.
Seriously, however, what's wrong with "female" terminology? I am all for eradicating sexism and minimizing gendered pronouns but I have heard sexists use the term "women" during their verbal farts. If this is about grammatical consistency like shown in your previous posts, then yes, I do see it being misused.
So, I will respectfully keep on using the term as long as I am pairing men with women, male with female, male/men or female/women separately when and where appropriate.
Basically this. "Female" carries the context of a sort of classification. Male too. Which is why "White Male" or whatever is used in that context: you're classifying something.
Calling someone a Male or a Female (as a noun) outside of that context sounds cringey.
Calling women "females" is like calling children "human babies". It just sounds wrong.
Using females as a noun only makes sense in a more objective or dehumanizing environment like scientific research or military.
Using females as a noun only makes sense in a more objective or dehumanizing environment like scientific research or military.
Hmm well my pals and I were hanging out and then this lovely FEMALE walked in What a fine specimen! The MAN next to her reacted the same way
(female is like some kind of objectifying, scientific way of describing a woman, like they're nothing but the check box. The biggest beef, as OP says, is when they call a man a 'man' but a woman a 'female'. It betrays a clearly different way of seeing each person it betrays that you're thinking about them differently, which is problematic. I get it's often used more colloquially, but it's also often not)
I've said it before but I was shouted at. I feel some people who use female do it so they don't have to call a trans woman a woman.
I don't even use the word "female" that much in real life. I usually use the words "woman" or "girl" depending on what's going on.
On the flip side... I get referred to as "boy" almost all the time by some of my women friends. Lol
On the flip side... I get referred to as "boy" almost all the time by some of my women friends. Lol
It's like someone listing out enthicities and says, "white people, asians, and... African Americans-"
It's not "offensive" as much as it's overly clinical and shows a lack of experience with the group in question. When someone clearly says African American in my presence as to "not offend me" I roll my eyes a little. Like bruh, just say black people.
Same with "females". Sounds like you're reading a goddamn textbook. Just say women, or girls, or ladies, or etc etc etc.
Really only seems problematic in certain circumstances. It's not a dehumanizing term to everyone.
There is no way you can't xomorehend this if you honestly read the OP.
i thought transgender people was the preferred phrasing? if i'm incorrect, someone from the trans community can correct me
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