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Starlatine

533.489 paid youtubers cant be wrong
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Oct 28, 2017
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can i say a game was built from below the ground up? like houses
 

NoidVoid

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Jan 5, 2019
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A house isn't built from the ground up? The foundation which supports the slab, framing, roof, and is part of the structure of the house is an integral part of the house — you're definitely stretching on these analogies
 

SuiQuan

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Oct 25, 2017
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Kazakhstan - soon
And if I airlifted a cargo container in, cut some holes for windows and started to live in it am I allowed to say that it was "built" from the mighty above to the sodom below?
 

Mc.K

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May 22, 2020
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That's a very specific and trivial concern to be dedicating a whole post to
 

Starlatine

533.489 paid youtubers cant be wrong
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Oct 28, 2017
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A house isn't built from the ground up? The foundation which supports the slab, framing, roof, and is part of the structure of the house is an integral part of the house — you're definitely stretching on these analogies
i started my house from the roof and then started putting walls, cables, pipes and all that stuff

i'm sorry you're such a building casual
 

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Oct 28, 2017
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But, what about "coded to the metal" than ? Even if I am using APIs, these APIs ends to move electrons on silicium. But electrons themselves aren't even "to the metal", it's an electromagnetic field that makes them move, and not even freely. So it's more the metal itself that codes ourselves.
 

HardRojo

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's an expression, you know, part of what makes language richer and more fluid. Not all expressions are to be taken literally, they convey a commonly accepted and understood idea.
 

Dreavus

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Jan 12, 2018
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Let's get down to the literal brass tacks, and also dig deep underground and get to the bottom of this… game?
 

Burly

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's a "stopped clock" is right twice a day, not a "broken clock," god damnit.

If a broken clock lost one minute every hour, then it could be weeks before it told the correct time again.

Don't even get me started on "blood is thicker than water"...
 
Oct 27, 2017
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What they said.
 

Minions

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Oct 25, 2017
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Seems quite pedantic. Personally I'd consider pouring a foundation part of the construction of a house.

Is a meal not "from scratch" because we don't process the individual ingredients (ie, flour, sugar)?
 

astro

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Oct 25, 2017
56,969
It's a metaphorical statement and it's pretty obvious what it means, honestly.

Stop trying to take the colour out of language!
 

Pyro

God help us the mods are making weekend threads
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Jul 30, 2018
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No.

Also WeekendEra™️ just keeps starting earlier and earlier and I don't like it.
 
OP
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Oct 27, 2017
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is complaining about things like this what privileges feels like?

No, but the person who once made a nazi-comparison thread about me but didn't realize I had a Jewish background, they felt privileged that day I'm pretty sure.

And the bosses in Bioshock were examples of bosses who did tell you what to do all the time. Just saying.
 

senj

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Nov 6, 2017
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Please:

- not even a house is built from the ground up. A foundation with utility and energy conduits is laid first, much of it below ground. Getting this part right is arguably more crucial a feature than proclaiming that building began on the ground and only built upward.

- it is really not how software and systems are constructed anyways. You may start with a core, or with a sub-system, or engine, or pie-in-the-sky idea, but not on the ground. Especially in spacefaring games that allow multi-dimensional orientations (and in space itself, which, hello, has no ground)
c'mon, this is a shitpost right

"From the ground up" has a fairly clear meaning in software development in fields wholly unrelated to gaming, and it very obviously has nothing to do with ground either in-game or IRL. It simply means that the program was built from what is generally understood as the "floor" of practicality (which varies wildly by context as to how much foundation is under that floor) and reused essentially nothing above that floor.
 

CRIMSON-XIII

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Oct 25, 2017
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the only reason anyone would ever say this in regards to video games is when implying they want a video game to be built with the lowest common denominator technology being the newest console. Whether a game does or does not really take advantage of ps5 while being made with ps4, that is up to the devs and fans perception.
 

hikarutilmitt

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Dec 16, 2017
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This is a level of pedantry even I don't get involved with.

Would love to hear your thoughts on the old "living, breathing world" shit that was all over last gen.
 

Griffith

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Oct 27, 2017
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What's the deeeeaaal with these games being built from the ground-up?

Why is the ground up? Shouldn't the ground be down and the sky be up? Is the game upside down?

 

CatAssTrophy

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Dec 4, 2017
7,622
Texas
I can understand OP's frustration, and as to people in here asking why it's something to be annoyed with, it actually falls in line with a topic everyone's familiar with and talk about here all the time- game company marketing tactics and how they tend to bend or warp the truth. From bullshots to failed promises, I figured there would be more people with something to say.

If it was a Sterling video would people be more willing to engage with the topic? I can understand not thinking the OP had enough to get a conversation going, but the "what a thing to be bothered by" posts aren't really helping in that regard.

the only reason anyone would ever say this in regards to video games is when implying they want a video game to be built with the lowest common denominator technology being the newest console. Whether a game does or does not really take advantage of ps5 while being made with ps4, that is up to the devs and fans perception.

Yeah this is where I most often hear it, but when it's in regards to an engine that ends up being just iterative and nowhere even close to being a complete re-write etc. is where it's annoying and sounds manipulative.
 

K Samedi

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Oct 27, 2017
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People are roughly speaking when they're saying built from the ground up. No need to worry about these things. We're all smart people.