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PlayStation VR has sold-through more than 4.2 million units worldwide as of March 3, 2019.
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It's only been on the market 3 years though? So you comparing it to the ltd sales of Vita and Wii U is weird.
Also VR is an accessory and not a console.
The patent images are reminiscent of Oculus touch mixed with a move controller.
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/20180311571.pdf
Honestly, I think the continued price cuts and bundles with attractive software have done wonders for the legs on this thing (besides the continued quality software support and surprising ability to get popular content in VR, even if in the form of port a la Skyrim or Borderlands 2).
Stealing ZhugeEX's Twitter sales numbers:
Oct 2016 - $499 (with cheaper $399 alternative that had no PS Camera or Move controllers)
Feb 2017 - 915k sold (+183k units/month avg.)
Aug 2017 - $449 (with cheaper $399 alternative that had no Move controllers)
Dec 2017 - 2m sold (+205k units/month avg.)
Aug 2017 - 3m sold (+125k units/month avg.)
Mar 2018 - $349 (with cheaper $299 alternative that has no Move controllers)
Mar 2019 - 4.2m sold (+171k units/month avg.)
Stealing ZhugeEX's Twitter sales numbers:
Oct 2016 - $499 (with cheaper $399 alternative that had no PS Camera or Move controllers)
Feb 2017 - 915k sold (+183k units/month avg.)
Aug 2017 - $449 (with cheaper $399 alternative that had no Move controllers)
Dec 2017 - 2m sold (+205k units/month avg.)
Aug 2017 - 3m sold (+125k units/month avg.)
Mar 2018 - $349 (with cheaper $299 alternative that has no Move controllers)
Mar 2019 - 4.2m sold (+171k units/month avg.)
You can also say that not every PSVR is in the hands of active user, some have sold it and and some simply didn't use it so the math is flawed. But considering every what ifs makes attach rate meaningless.
GearVR is was literally given away to people buying Galaxy phones for the last 3 years. I've had 3 different GearVRs and given or sold them all away.
Compared to actual VR headsets with 6dof, its the best selling one.
Also Benji can use head-shaking GIF all he wants, but for something that launched at the same price as the console, it has sold well enough that sell rate is actually increasing as more software like Astro Bot and Beat Saber came out for it, along with the price drops that came with v2.
It is the whole market I feel, it was really over hyped in terms of analysts predictions and projected growth year on year leading up to 2020. From pure market evaluation perspective, I would say it is pretty much niche product at this stage, and not the mainstream product that some believed it would be, for the reasons you have stated. Hopefully the next generation it will have a stronger presences. This is my view on the whole VR market, not just PSVR.
Which everyone has one.
at least a ton more people have a GearVR ready phone than those have a ps4.
That... really doesnt matter
People who buy GearVR already has a Galaxy phone.
Or do you think there are actually people who buy $700 phones to play $99 VR on it?
I did
And its the height of irony to be like "GearVR doesn't count, it's so cheap!" when PSVR launched at less than half the price of the HTC Vive.
There is no way to spin it, the PSVR is NOT the quote "the best selling VR headset." GearVR far out sold it.
Yeah, attach rate compared to the console's overall sold numbers is a dumb metric because it can be used to make every peripheral or game appear to sell like shit if that's your agenda.
When GearVR launched, it literally was only compatible with a single newest phone, no previous phones were compatible.
Numbers would be bad if it's a strictly a gaming platform, but it's not a gaming platform. It's a peripheral. And not a cheap peripheral device. And those numbers are good surely for such a device which also has a good software support. What the hell i know, you're the US sales insider, not me.
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That's not really fair. As Samsung phones are far more regularly placed in promotions and cellphone contracts that give you the device either free or with a small downpayment fee and trade-in deals thrown in that too.
Samsung VR was also being given for free some years ago too.
PSVR has a high cost of entry and doesnt have a way of benefiting from smartphone promotions or trade-ins.
The 4.2 figure is true sell-through revenue and market penetration. It's the fastest selling VR device and should be at the Gear's numbers pretty soon provided PSVR maintains it's current selling pace.
Does that number include the headsets given away for pre ordering the phone?
Gear VR was given away for 8 months in 2017. After that period, they announced they had shipped 4 million units. Meaning they've sold 4 million units since they've stopped giving them away.
Also, gear VR was sold before it was given away. The "free GearVR" promotion was actually very short lived.
Also, gear VR was sold before it was given away. The "free GearVR" promotion was actually very short lived.
And conversely I'm sold on NMS now. Just picked it up from GameStop.
I still think price is the main barrier for an increase in sales and likely the reason the last half-year (with the price drop) looks so favorable.
That's not what I meant. Margin of error exists. If you say not every PS4 sold is a unique user (therefore not every sold PS4 is in the hands of an active user), then you can say the same with PSVR, where someone might've sold it or shelve it permanently. That would make every number meaningless, but in reality they aren't. In the end 4.2 million users isn't a huge number to anyone who wanted to fund a VR game (except Sony who wants to grow the platform), so you either have to budget your VR games very carefully or make them add on to already existing games.
I know the State of Play presentation left a lot of people underwhelmed, but I personally liked that Sony highlighted just how much effort they're putting into backing their VR. Coming off the Vita and 3D gaming it's nice to see Sony actually committed to supporting VR.
So basically invest now (while not losing money!) so that it hopefully pays off in 10-15 years?
My point was that % of the overall PS4 numbers is a dumb metric to begin with and 4.2 million being bigger than any other VR platform is the most important number.
It should be a no brainer to not be a CCP and go big budget on VR games when the platform isn't guaranteed to help you break even, but I don't know that there are devs being overly aggressive out there with their investment. Sony's using the success to court partners and getting stuff like Iron Man VR and their other games funded and made that may not otherwise exist without that success.
It puts Sony in a weird spot for next gen. Will making PSVR a bigger focus on PS5 drive wider adoption, or will it blow up in their face like Kinect 2.0 on Xbox One? It's a gamble either way. I'm very curious to see if Sony doubles down or if they take a step back.
Treat it just like they do now. Bundling PSVR2 with PS5 shouldn't even be on the table. That's at least $799 and that isn't attractive.
Yeah, I honestly don't understand people saying sony should bundle the 5 & PSVR2, especially at launch of the new console.
GearVR came free with a new galaxy phone when that was first launch...
you expecting 50%? Even PS+ is only like 60+% of the total PS4 sold...
i don't know what you guys are smoking sometimes.....
Honestly... thats not that good. I was expecting a good 10-15% adoption rate, not less than 5%.
It is very good for an expensive peripheral that costs as much as the console. It's more than the other VR headsets combined.
With the way people talk about the concern sales, it's almost like people forgot this thing cost $400 (just the headset) to $500 (with the needed camera and move controls) when released.
I mean, it cost me $900 for the Pro and PSVR when it released, and the cheapest was $700 if you got the regular PS4 with only the headset without the camera and Move controllers.
I mean, it cost me $900 for the Pro and PSVR when it released, and the cheapest was $700 if you got the regular PS4 with only the headset without the camera and Move controllers.
Oh is it? That means VR is not doing too hot in general, if even the leader VR headset has lackluster sales.
So if the PS4 was not so successful with casual gamers and only sold 45M units, would you think PSVR is a success because it's attach rate is at 10%?