PlayStation Studios |OT28| \o/ Respect Women's Rights. Fuck Jim Ryan.

[Ariesfirebomb]

We can all think Jim Ryan is shit and stupid as fuck for sending that out that email.

But he's also not in this position because he's a likeable guy. Regardless of what anyone overall thinks of him he knows the business and he's helping PS make money. That's all that matter to investors and potentially his bosses as well.

The only way I see him leaving is on his own accord, or he's fired by his bosses because their losing money or the devs start speaking up.

Most people don't read past a headline so unfortunately I feel many people will see Jim Ryan says to "respect the opinions of others" and most people aren't going to take issue with that.

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I think Era and Twitter calling for/thinking he will resign over this is kinda wild.

This is how a lot of older dudes who feel they live in a "pc" culture have handled this situation in similar positions as him. I work in local government in PR and the headaches alone this week from these men speaking about this topic is unfathomable.


At most we'll get a PR "I misspoke" comment by tomorrow or Monday. That's it.

 

[klauskpm]

Amazing thread title change.

 

[Ariakon44]

I think Era and Twitter calling for/thinking he will resign over this is kinda wild.

This is how a lot of older dudes who feel they live in a "pc" culture have handled this situation in similar positions as him. I work in local government in PR and the headaches alone this week from these men speaking about this topic is unfathomable.


At most we'll get a PR "I misspoke" comment by tomorrow or Monday. That's it.

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Yeah, this is my expectation as well.

This forum and (parts of) Twitter lean a lot further left than most places. I like that, it's part of the reason I come here and not the alt-right cesspools that are most other online gaming communities, but I doubt most are going to react as strongly to this as we are.

 

[JustACreeper]

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Jim isn't getting fired. He never even mentioned Roe v Wade in the letter and talked mostly about his infatuation with dogs. (He doesn't even own one apparently lol). Plus, the whole conversation is already dead on Twitter and mostly everybody was only talking about his dog comments to begin with. Big ol' nothing burger.

 

[John Frost]

Promote Shu, you cowards.

 

[Ascenion]

I don't typically think of a CEO when I play video games, but I can understand how it can sour one's perception of a brand or company.

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For me it's more that if the CEO thinks that way and voices that kind of shit opinion, it emboldens the employees who think that way to be more open with their shit ass opinions. And in an industry that already mistreats, abuses and assaults women openly, that's the last thing we need. It's basically the Trump effect. He's being an open racist piece of shit so that means it must be okay for me to be an open racist piece of shit. And I'm not here for that.

 

[Darkknight2149]

I just got a huge update on the Silent Hill game in development, and I'm debating how and what to share. But I'll talk more about it pretty soon, thought I'd mention it here first as been talked about here first. See what's okay for me to talk about publicly. But the update I got is MASSIVE and is legit.

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Who's that Pokemon? (Robbie) It comes out 27 April. Masahiro Ito discussing the Bubble Head Nurse figure: Also:

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[gundamkyoukai]

For me it's more that if the CEO thinks that way and voices that kind of shit opinion, it emboldens the employees who think that way to be more open with their shit ass opinions. And in an industry that already mistreats, abuses and assaults women openly, that's the last thing we need. It's basically the Trump effect. He's being an open racist piece of shit so that means it must be okay for me to be an open racist piece of shit. And I'm not here for that.

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We all know companies going to do what best for them .
Like when companies give money to Rep or do both side thing etc etc .
At this point you can't find big company \people and i not talking gaming only that not fucking up the place .

Silent Hill Community |OT| In Our Restless Dreams, We See That Town OT

Who's that Pokemon? (Robbie) It comes out 27 April. Masahiro Ito discussing the Bubble Head Nurse figure: Also:

www.resetera.com

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OMG here we go again LMAO .

 

[samcastor]

That 30% can choose a different job or just shut the fuck up

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In an ideal world, yes. But no company is lose money over a social issue like this. Honestly, there is a much deeper and bigger problem with how it's gotten to this point in America and now suddenly having these expectations from corporations is borderline delusional. This 30% should have been called out long long time ago.

 

[Ariakon44]

I do think the one thing that might get this looked at more seriously internally is that it was Schreier writing for Bloomberg and not, say, Kotaku or something. Don't get me wrong, I think gaming journalism is legitimate, but I also think these companies take it a lot more seriously when they're getting attention from a business site as large as Bloomberg.

That being said, I don't think this will do a thing to their stock price. Hell, Sony is up 2% in Japan right now.

 

[WetWaffle]

It's just mistake after mistake with Jimbo. Shawn, House and Shu didn't have any fuckups even close to this. And it's such a no brainer, stand with the ones who risk losing their rights and don't give legitimacy to the ones trying to take said rights away.

 

[Josh5890]

Silent Hill Community |OT| In Our Restless Dreams, We See That Town OT

Who's that Pokemon? (Robbie) It comes out 27 April. Masahiro Ito discussing the Bubble Head Nurse figure: Also:

www.resetera.com

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Hello darkness, my old friend.....

 

[Curufinwe]

Even then, abortion rights are supported by a pretty solid majority of the American public.

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I can't take anyone seriously who claims to be for abortion rights and then votes Republican. That party has made repealing Roe part of their platform. The idiots in Maine who returned Collins to the Senate are a good example. You're not actually for abortion rights if you vote for a Senator who confirmed Kavanaugh.

 

[Chasing]

I think Era and Twitter calling for/thinking he will resign over this is kinda wild.

This is how a lot of older dudes who feel they live in a "pc" culture have handled this situation in similar positions as him. I work in local government in PR and the headaches alone this week from these men speaking about this topic is unfathomable.


At most we'll get a PR "I misspoke" comment by tomorrow or Monday. That's it.

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Whether it gets any direct results is a seperate matter; the important thing is to give a voice and starting to speak up about these issues, because that's how we can start to get action and accountability.

 

[More Human than Human]

Silent Hill Community |OT| In Our Restless Dreams, We See That Town OT

Who's that Pokemon? (Robbie) It comes out 27 April. Masahiro Ito discussing the Bubble Head Nurse figure: Also:

www.resetera.com

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Was about to go to sleep but I might wait a little more then.

 

[XB1NH0]

In an ideal world, yes. But no company is lose money over a social issue like this. Honestly, there is a much deeper and bigger problem with how it's gotten to this point in America and now suddenly having these expectations from corporations is borderline delusional. This 30% should have been called out long long time ago.

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the problem is that it seems to be 30% not only in companies but in society as a whole. here in Brazil our illustrious president still has 30% of the electorate despite all the homophobic, anti-vaccine, contempt for the environment speeches etc.

 

[carlsojo]

Silent Hill Community |OT| In Our Restless Dreams, We See That Town OT

Who's that Pokemon? (Robbie) It comes out 27 April. Masahiro Ito discussing the Bubble Head Nurse figure: Also:

www.resetera.com

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Let's fucking gooo

 

[samcastor]

the problem is that it seems to be 30% not only in companies but in society as a whole. here in Brazil our illustrious president still has 30% of the electorate despite all the homophobic, anti-vaccine, contempt for the environment speeches etc.

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Believe me, I know all about it. At least your country still has minority support for the clownshow, ours is straight up in the majority.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

I can't take anyone seriously who claims to be for abortion rights and then votes Republican. That party has made repealing Roe part of their platform. The idiots in Maine who returned Collins to the Senate are a good example. You're not actually for abortion rights if you vote for a Senator who confirmed Kavanaugh.

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Don't live in the USA but this make 100% sense they have been trying to do this for decades .

 

[Darkknight2149]

Hello darkness, my old friend.....

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Was about to go to sleep but I might wait a little more then.

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Let's fucking gooo

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Transistor just approved the leak and gave Dusk Golem the greenlight at the Silent Hill Community OT:

Silent Hill Community |OT| In Our Restless Dreams, We See That Town OT

Who's that Pokemon? (Robbie) It comes out 27 April. Masahiro Ito discussing the Bubble Head Nurse figure: Also:

www.resetera.com

 

[BBB1]

People overreacting

 

[Deleted member 887]

Transistor just approved the leak and gave Dusk Golem the greenlight at the Silent Hill Community OT:

Silent Hill Community |OT| In Our Restless Dreams, We See That Town OT

Who's that Pokemon? (Robbie) It comes out 27 April. Masahiro Ito discussing the Bubble Head Nurse figure: Also:

www.resetera.com

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Oh jeez

 

[Deleted member 887]

People overreacting

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I don't think people are overreacting at all, but his biggest mistake was fucking talking about his pets. He trivialized the entire issue.

Like I said earlier. If he left that out. He could at least make a decent apology.

 

[Jiggy]

Silent Hill Community |OT| In Our Restless Dreams, We See That Town OT

Who's that Pokemon? (Robbie) It comes out 27 April. Masahiro Ito discussing the Bubble Head Nurse figure: Also:

www.resetera.com

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Y'all are Charlie Brown with the football with these Silent Hill rumors

 

[Ariakon44]

Y'all are Charlie Brown with the football with these Silent Hill rumors

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But Lucy actually had a football to fake him out with.

 

[Red Kong XIX]

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[Trey2Deebo]

People overreacting

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Uhhh over reacting? That shit is even worse than I thought. What a clown.

 

[XB1NH0]

Believe me, I know all about it. At least your country still has minority support for the clownshow, ours is straight up in the majority.

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I really pray for this shit staying in "only" 30% but idk...Im very worried about elections next october

 

[Gavalanche]

People overreacting

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The problem is that a lack of a stance is just as bad really. At a time when everyone should be rallying behind women, having no stance is a negative, as silence is as seen as affirmation, rightly or wrongly. Nothing is going to change if public figures don't take a stance, so for this to come from the President of one of the largest gaming brands is just... bad. Especialy an industry that has had a history of suppressing women and taking advantage of them. Playstation has been so pro-LGBTQ and Vaccines and whatnot, for them to do this is just strange and stupid and tonedeaf.

The fact that more gaming companies aren't coming out for womens rights is bad; I have only seen Bungie, although maybe I missed others. But this is the opposite. This is just telling people to chill essentially while half the nation gets fucked over.

 

[Darkknight2149]

Y'all are Charlie Brown with the football with these Silent Hill rumors

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But Lucy actually had a football to fake him out with.

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[Transistor]

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[Uzupedro]

Saw many more devs reacting to the statement and I really hope they manage to do something, I know this is extremely hard in the hell hole that is corporate america but feels kinda hopeless otherwise.

 

[Gavalanche]

Ack I replied to a troll account. My troll-dar is terrible it seems!

 

[Gravity Insanity]

Saw many more devs reacting to the statement and I really hope they manage to do something, I know this is extremely hard in the hell hole that is corporate america but feels kinda hopeless otherwise.

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I'm hoping every developer owned by Sony will come out with a statement.

 

[Josh5890]

So many "new" accounts posting here.

 

[Musubi]

I think Era and Twitter calling for/thinking he will resign over this is kinda wild.

This is how a lot of older dudes who feel they live in a "pc" culture have handled this situation in similar positions as him. I work in local government in PR and the headaches alone this week from these men speaking about this topic is unfathomable.


At most we'll get a PR "I misspoke" comment by tomorrow or Monday. That's it.

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100%. Most that happens is he does a backpedal and offers some limp apology. Unless there is SIGNIFICANT pressure that gains the notice of the shareholders there isnt a chance in hell Jim is ousted over this.

 

[G-X]

if I'm at any Sony operated or funded studio I don't clock another minute until at minimum a suspension and a 3rd party fields complaints/investigates to see if there is more beneath the surface. On it's face alone though, its a pretty damn bad move for a person who generally doesn't seem to be that well liked by his peers. People seem to much prefer to interact with Shu or Hulst then Ryan, and from what I have seen publicly I can't say I blame them.

 

[ToddBonzalez]

if I'm at any Sony operated or funded studio I don't clock another minute until at minimum a suspension and a 3rd party fields complaints/investigates to see if there is more beneath the surface. On it's face alone though, its a pretty damn bad move for a person who generally doesn't seem to be that well liked by his peers. People seem to much prefer to interact with Shu or Hulst then Ryan, and from what I have seen publicly I can't say I blame them.

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Not everyone has the luxury to go without pay or put their job on the line. This isn't a unionized industry.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

Saw many more devs reacting to the statement and I really hope they manage to do something, I know this is extremely hard in the hell hole that is corporate america but feels kinda hopeless otherwise.

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Truth of the matter is Jim leaving , companies supporting devs , people speaking out etc
At this point seem to late but the more support the better .

 

[Gestault]

An uplifting reaction to this would be the staff throughout Sony studios stepping forward to make plain-language support of healthcare privacy and abortion known, if only being short of an official stance. It should actually make every party happy (aside from theocrats) if the underlying beliefs are actually about free speech, mutual respect, and individual freedoms (rather than a vile, subversive lie in a conscious effort to oppress others).

Upper management needs to be removed for this. Whether that's Ryan or more, I don't think less is acceptable when we're talking about prevaricating re: people's fucking human rights. And if not? Rot. The whole publisher can rot for all I care if they're this ambivalent to those rights. This hobby is filled with incredible work by people with worldviews compatible with civil rights, and with only so many hours in a day to enjoy games, my resources would be better spent there.

 

[Ariakon44]

if I'm at any Sony operated or funded studio I don't clock another minute until at minimum a suspension and a 3rd party fields complaints/investigates to see if there is more beneath the surface. On it's face alone though, its a pretty damn bad move for a person who generally doesn't seem to be that well liked by his peers. People seem to much prefer to interact with Shu or Hulst then Ryan, and from what I have seen publicly I can't say I blame them.

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This is not realistic. What he said was pretty typical corporate speak, unfortunately. Especially in gaming, Bungie has been the exception here, not the rule.

 

[BrucCLea13k87]

I'm proud of all of us standing up for what's right. Fuck Jim Ryan and this slime ball limp dick email. Fuck him hard. More people at the head of big tech companies need to come out RIGHT NOW and support Roe v. Wade. Good on Bungie.

Fuck all the CEO's who don't want to stir up controversy for investors. They'll come out and say "we support women's rights" when the Roe is revoked. Mark my words. Meanwhile, they need to come out and support women RIGHT NOW. That's what's going to matter. Put the pressure on the SC right now! This is important NOW more than EVER.

 

[Slippy]

With the Silent Hill images and the PS5 circle icon. I hope for PSVR2 compatibility haptics and everything since it looks first-person.

 

[Gavalanche]

As someone who has thought Jim Ryan was unfairly maligned in the past due to his lack of PR, this was also extremely disappointing on that front, and really shows that I should just shut the hell up about what executives I bat for, since they are all probably rotten to some degree. Although if it turns out Shu is a bad guy I will quit gaming.

 

[Servbot24]

Yeah, If Sony actually decides to do something, I'm guessing they'll just put someone else (Hermen?) to appear at events, interviews, etc while Ryan continues to work in the background. Layden was head of the first party studios and yet he appeared more than Andrew House in the mid/late PS4 lifespan.

Remember that Jim Ryan is one the VPs of the whole company, not just PlayStation.

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This was Jim in the background. It's a leaked internal memo.

 

[BabyDontHurtMe]

Man, Horizon really kicks your teeth in when you get further west, huh? I'm playing on easy but they game still throws a whole bunch of tough enemies at you. Guess I need to keep grinding.

 

[illmatic22]

So many "new" accounts posting here.

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Some really bored people out there.

 

[Gavalanche]

So many "new" accounts posting here.

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People have to start somewhere! I was one of those new accounts a few months ago :P

 

[Modest_Modsoul]

Just waking up and see pages throttled up from 63 to 71 with 100 posts per page.

I thought it's something like Ragnarok cancelled to 2023, Square Enix acquisition, something like that, and then realized the OT title change.

After the whatever fiscal report & no news week, this happen... 🤦

This guy really don't have talent with PR even though before/after being CEO huh...?

Who want to play that backward-compatibility...
Believe in generations...
Cross play...
The Middle East comment...
And now this...

At least new rumors for Silent Hill this Friday. 🤷

 

[BabyDontHurtMe]

So many "new" accounts posting here.

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Some of the new accounts do try to stir up shit but the rest of them mostly are just lurkers who want to chat now.