I'ma say this right now in this thread, for all to hear. Both sides-ing this shit? Nah. That's a bad fucking idea. You don't get to both sides shit when people are trying to take rights away from others.
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PlayStation Studios |OT28| \o/ Respect Women's Rights. Fuck Jim Ryan.
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Sony, like most corporations, doesn't have any ideology attached to them. They exist only to make a profit and to make investors happy. If something or someone impacts their bottom line, then they will have to leave.
I hope they do. I'd be pretty disappointed if they don't do anything.
Call me crazy but what if we spend the fraction of the effort telling women what to do with their bodies (especially men that just have to do the deed and then chill for 9 months) what if instead use the energy and money to end say, child famine?.
Or once they are born is pretty much "fuck them kids".?
Nah I'm sorry, we have no say in women bodies, especially men.
Or once they are born is pretty much "fuck them kids".?
Nah I'm sorry, we have no say in women bodies, especially men.
No, nothing will happen. There's a slim chance he may address it in some way via a followup email apologizing for addressing the subject in a tone deaf manner, but that's it. I sort of doubt even that will happen. There's a 0% chance he will take a side.
Perfect timing to have this at the top of the page but I just wanna say: this. There is no both sides here - you either want women to have the right to choose what they do with their bodies or you don't.
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I'm shocked that some people don't realize that a lot of people are religious and don't believe in abortion especially at a large company like Sony. He should have said as a company we believe a woman has a right to choose but we also want people to respect other's opinion. This idea that everyone feels the same at a company is ridiculous now people are calling him a racist wtf !? Republicans have made everyone extreme overnight Jimbo screwed up by not having a full fledged statement but the overreaction is fucking stunning.
Jim is the "genius" who tried to argue that Sony brought gaming to the Middle East. Dude basically has zero cognizance of anything outside of his lane.
Do you not remember his racist comments about the Middle East? And no, people don't need to respect the opinions of a group of people that are trying to take women's rights away.
I don't even think the fucking Bible has a firm stance on abortion and some religions do support it (Judaism for example iirc), so the "religious" argument is mostly reactionary Evangelicals and Catholics who want to take away women's rights.
People on the "other side" of this topic don't deserve anyone respecting their opinion, just as these people don't respect women's rights
Woulda could've should've been, he chose to release that statement he gonna get shit for it. Stop this shit
Again with this both side bulshit sigh
and also
IGN Middle East: No, Jim Ryan - Gaming In The Middle East Existed Long Before PlayStation News - Sony
https://me.ign.com/en/ps5/190381/feature/no-jim-ryan-gaming-in-the-middle-east-existed-long-before-playstation From the article, some names weighing in: I'm not even really sure what to make of a statement like that. It's... very obviously wrong. Did he think nobody would notice a lie...
www.resetera.com
I'm not annoyed at you for not being on my side or whatever. I'm telling you that the one you conveniently left out:
Was lame as fuck. Saying "fuck you" to bigots for saying bigoted shit is inherently a message in support of anti-bigotry. Who gives a fuck if it's "immature?"
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I am trying to read the middle east comments from jim, and really, where is the racist part? please, somebody tag me with the exact quote of him saying something RACIST about that?
what I am reading is, playstation didnd exist there before, things like that, man, please, i need to understand, what is racist and what not, I feel some people is really sensitive or i dont know, please again, tag me in the racist quote to see what it is
what I am reading is, playstation didnd exist there before, things like that, man, please, i need to understand, what is racist and what not, I feel some people is really sensitive or i dont know, please again, tag me in the racist quote to see what it is
Good. I hope more studios / devs pipe up and give a big middle finger to Jim Ryan.
Oh we do realize that. The thing is, those people can go fuck themselves.
Jim Ryan's statements reek of sexism, but there's also a distinct layer of classicism in his statement about "dogs knowing their place." Sorry Jim, but employees are not your monkey. They're talent-for-hire, plain and simple. The sooner American corporations learn this, the better.
Abortion is a human rights issue, not a matter of "respectful disagreement." Without abortion, women will get it on the black market and die. Women will have complications during pregnancy that require emergency abortions and die. And children will grow up living hellish lives under orphanages and unwilling parents.
A fetus doesn't have a consciousness or central nervous system for the first chunk of the pregnancy, so the "rights" of the fetus don't even enter the conversation when it comes to full abortion bans.
Abortion is a human rights issue, not a matter of "respectful disagreement." Without abortion, women will get it on the black market and die. Women will have complications during pregnancy that require emergency abortions and die. And children will grow up living hellish lives under orphanages and unwilling parents.
A fetus doesn't have a consciousness or central nervous system for the first chunk of the pregnancy, so the "rights" of the fetus don't even enter the conversation when it comes to full abortion bans.
Read the quote:
He's literally pretending Playstation brought gaming to the Middle East. That's what people think is racist, the belief that his company somehow brought gaming to an entire region of the world like some kind of savior. Anyone from the Middle East can tell you that video games existed there before Playstation.
We literally had a member of the GOP say that even abortion of ectopic pregnancies shouldn't be allowed. This is an attack on women/people who can get pregnant rights, you covering it with "religious differences " is exactly what the Republicans want.
and that... is racism? my god... didnt know, for me, what an exageration to say that is racist, hopefully you can respect my opinion
Jim stepping down is the only announcement I'm interested in.
I mean, it's typical "white people brought civilization to brown folks" rhetoric. That's pretty fucking racist
It's stunningly racially insensitive, and it's yet another in a long line of unprompted gaffes by Jim, a man who clearly CANNOT make a statement without fucking it up somehow.
You could argue that it was ignorant. Regardless, it doesn't look good to imply that the Middle East is a less advanced civilization.
I really do think he might go. I know sexism is rife in the game industry but rarely do you get something so obvious and so explicit. He's caught red handed. Fuck off Jim.
I'm pretty sure that that was the case.
Discussions like this happen at work, and can get really intense and heated. We usually have dedicated Slack channels for hot button topics, although, in the case of women's rights and what's going on with Roe v. Wade, I'm at least pleased to say that from what I've seen, our studio is aligned on it, and supportive of it.
I have a feeling that what prompted this email was probably some intense discussions that came up around the office concerning it, and Jim felt he needed to address it, in the most idiotic and tone deaf way possible. Fuck him.
Seriously, being a CEO of a large company is something I don't envyXD XD aw, thanks!
But oh lord, me being the CEO of anything:
I'm betting it's a september thing. I think trying to read into yearly patterns of Sony has proven fruitless.
I sent you this as a PM but in order to clear any miscommunication I'll post it here too...
I apologize without reservation if any part of my post suggested or alluded to my intention being anything other than support for women's choices. To me, having the title say "Fuck Jim ryan" could possibly lead to someone not familiar with the issue missing the point. And including a positive message about women's rights specifically would make sure the message wasn't lost.
If the word immature distorted that then again, my apologies. Abortion rights and woman's right to choose is a very real issue for me.
Respectfully.
"Spain had a very small gaming industry before PlayStation" holy fucking shit lmfao. PC gaming, the MegaDrive and SNES were all massive for the time in this country.
It's a surprisingly easy job if you don't say stupid shit that gets people pissed off at you.
If he felt emboldened enough to say it, I doubt he is the only one at the top who agrees with what he said.
Fair point.
Me too. This might just be the straw that broke the camel's back.
Hmm I see what you're saying.
I dunno. This seems to have resonated with not just many fans and media but also PlayStation employees.
They'll have their surprises in due time. No need to worry about it.
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