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PlayStation Studios |OT24| All I Want For Christmas Is Shu
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Come on. I'm just throwing a joke :p
I'm too old to be an internet troll.
I could have told how gaming was going to go years ago thanks Netflix \streaming .
Only that we also have F2P that will be on everything .
Was not looking forward to it but here were are.
Sony is never going to get Fortnite as an exclusive. They'd have to literally shut the Xbox version off to do so, which they won't. There's zero value in pursuing Epic.
"What's in it for Sony?" You missed one thing Game Pass won't be on: Playstation. That's Sony's gaming division. The more popular IPs that MS takes, the fewer popular IPs Playstation has. Sony's gamers are losing access to huge IPs, and risk losing even more in the future if they don't do their own acquisitions.
At the same time, there's a lot of people that can't even buy a PS4, that's the really in my country, Brazil, but then comes the gamepass with a cheap subscription with games playable in a smartphone, that's much more accessible than a PS5, a luxury item with luxury price games, Gamepass is a turning point for people in the third world
I know.
Just messing with you lol
Plus by now I actually know who the trolls are, and you are not one of them
Game Pass won't come to PS5 or Switch because Sony and Nintendo 'don’t want’ it
‘Closed platforms don’t want something like Game Pass’
www.techradar.com
Phil has made no secret that he wants Gamepass everywhere, even Switch
My immediate reaction is that Sony or Playstation gets bought out by one of the big tech companies or Disney within 10 years.
Tencent already owns a large part of Epic.
Diseny doesn't belong to this list at all.
Diseny is +$250B company while the other 3 are +$2T.
Sony's endgame will be the same thing. PlayStation games on consoles, PC and mobile.
Streaming, sub services (Spartacus) and "normal" gaming.
For that you need content. A lot of content. Famous IPs.
It is. Which could be the reason why Sony will go big now. "Losing" a market again like Sony Pictures or Sony Music once with the CD/MP3 debacle?
Or grow with a huge acquisition. PlayStation is important. Industry consolidation is happening NOW. So NOW is the time to react. Wait 5 years and it could already be too late.
Sony acquiring Epic would mean then controlling UE. That alone would have a huge ripple effect in the industry.
UE makes sense for its film aspirations and Sony's film business. EGS would give them a storefront for their PC games.
There are several ways it makes business sense for Sony. I doubt Epic is looking to sell, so it's a non-starter.
If I had my pick, they'd buy EA so they could give BioWare games that first party Sony polish.
I want to call you an ass, but I can't. I'll let this one go because it is good.
This is definitely a big "go big or go home" moment for Sony as a whole, not just SIE. In FY2020 (April 1st 2020 through March 31st 2021) the Games & Network Services was Sony's most profitable division at an operating income ¥342.2B (today's exchange rate: $2.99B), with Music coming in second at ¥188.1B ($1.64B) and accounting for a total of 35.2% of Sony's operating income. Sony's stock being down 7% also shows what a huge hit this is and that Sony has to respond. The big question, and this has already been mentioned by me and others, can Sony even acquire a big western publisher without Microsoft swooping in and just outbidding them?
Sony's financials are also in 2 weeks, it'll be interesting to see if they'll get any questions about this.
Sony's financials are also in 2 weeks, it'll be interesting to see if they'll get any questions about this.
Truth is i don't see this as threat to Tencent they have bigger things to worry about with the CCP .
Yes. I would also be frightened, what Microsoft is doing is creating a new business model (similar to the impact of Netflix on the audiovisual industry), the problem is that games are worth $ 70 and not less than $ 10 like movie tickets. And it is very likely that players will stop buying games if they have several triple A on their subscription service every month. Maybe some very established IPs are going to survive, but the vast majority are going to have a really hard time surviving.
Playstation is my main system and has been since like day 1 and I haven't cared for xbox since like the first few 360 years.
Now If MS went and bought Capcom and got Resident Evil.
Xbox becomes my main console,
I'd keep my PS5 for Sony titles but going to next gen NextBox would be my first purchase then maybe PS6 down the line.
Also if I go to Xbox I have way less reason to keep my Plus subscription.
Im sorry lol, it was too good not to post. I giggled to myself when I thought of it.
Fuck it, let them have Ubisoft. Seems fair.
Do you remember the last time a major publisher was bought by a console manufacturer before Microsoft acquired Bethesda? I remember Sony buying Psygnosis in 1993. Which really was only relevant in Europe.
This is big stuff. And I think a lot of people are inner egging what it means.
Microsoft, if they so choose to do so, can take Doom, Wolfenstein, Fallout, The Elder Scrolls, Minecraft, Call of Duty, Diablo, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro and other IP like Tony Hawk, Blur, Evil Within etc from PlayStation and they don't have to answer to anyone.
You want to buy or play those games? Get an XBOX or a PC.
Just because they won't do it now, doesn't mean they won't when they move into pole place as market leader.
Remember, it was Sony who reached out to Microsoft about cross platform play. Microsoft at the time, as console leaders, turned them down. Didn't want to know.
That's one of the many reasons Sony turned down cross platform play with Microsoft when the shoe was on the other foot. Not just to stop them gaining market traction, but also because the strings Microsoft attached to the deal meant turning PlayStation into an advertising tool for XBOX.
Always a catch....
I think with all this talk about Sony being slow to react, I think we're missing some of the bigger picture strategy:
Sony's created many IPs that became super successful in the past decade, decade and a half. The reason we're getting an Uncharted movie is because Uncharted 4 sold more than many third party games sell on multiple consoles. The reason we're getting a Last of Us series is because that IP is big enough to create that kind of interest in fans of the game and people who think the series' story looks interesting. You look at Uncharted, or The Last of Us, or Ghost of Tsushima, or God of War, or Horizon, you have games that have blossomed into gaming giants in their own right.
So Sony buying smaller devs or working with new devs also means a lower cost way of possibly creating new, big franchises. That doesn't mean it's the best strategy, but it's certainly been a good one. A bigger strategy may be necessary, however, moving forward. I dunno; I don't have access to their insides.
The Activision purchase is the first time in a while that I've really worried about the industry as a whole and where it's headed. I can't blame anyone for feeling apprehensive.
I'm surprised Epic hasn't popped up more in these conversations.
Sony's created many IPs that became super successful in the past decade, decade and a half. The reason we're getting an Uncharted movie is because Uncharted 4 sold more than many third party games sell on multiple consoles. The reason we're getting a Last of Us series is because that IP is big enough to create that kind of interest in fans of the game and people who think the series' story looks interesting. You look at Uncharted, or The Last of Us, or Ghost of Tsushima, or God of War, or Horizon, you have games that have blossomed into gaming giants in their own right.
So Sony buying smaller devs or working with new devs also means a lower cost way of possibly creating new, big franchises. That doesn't mean it's the best strategy, but it's certainly been a good one. A bigger strategy may be necessary, however, moving forward. I dunno; I don't have access to their insides.
The Activision purchase is the first time in a while that I've really worried about the industry as a whole and where it's headed. I can't blame anyone for feeling apprehensive.
I'm surprised Epic hasn't popped up more in these conversations.
Yeah people can say watever they want but there will be big conversation at Sony's top not just PS. We shall see what decisions will they make...
that's why I said merge. PlayStation + Epic + Tencent can work against MS.
Or as you said Disney or Netflix getting involved.
I would. I wouldn't pay a single cent for the service, because at that point it isn't about the games themselves or my convenience but the principle. It would be raising the white flag, but just as a PlayStation gamer but as a conscious consumer who understands that consolidation equals the death of innovation and killing of progressive gaming culture.
I get what you are all saying. It's just crazy to me that we could get an announcement of a major publisher being acquired & it wouldn't be a surprise because "we had to buy them". It's a completely new game being played now.
Im still figuring out how GP could be profitable and suitanable in long term.
Sony's biggest acquisition as of today is 2.3B $ for EMI. Take Two post Zynga deal will be a monumental 30+B $ acquisition. Easy is definitely the wrong word here. I think the price tag is almost prohibitive actually. While technically possible, people have to realize Sony is more than just PlayStation. Even Capcom would be roughly 3 times the amount they spend on their biggest deal yet.
Dude. BioWare is a joke these days. A shell of its former self. It's not even worth talking about them. Lol.
I remember how you have mentioned this for years already while I was lurking here without an Era account. Lol. And people were angry at you.
And now look what happened. Microsoft bought another publisher just as you have predicted. Not even a "small" one like Sega, Square-Enix or Capcom. Activision fucking Blizzard!!! CALL OF DUTY!
You were right.
Game Pass won't come to PS5 or Switch because Sony and Nintendo 'don’t want’ it
‘Closed platforms don’t want something like Game Pass’
Phil has made no secret that he wants Gamepass everywhere, even Switch
The tricky thing is:
Gamepass doesn't just include Microsoft first party games, it also includes games that you would otherwise have to purchase on your Nintendo/Sony console and at least when purchased through their official storefront that would mean they would get 30% of that purchase. At most Nintendo/Microsoft could take 30% of the Gamepass subscription fee if you subscribed to Gamepass through their storefronts but Microsoft could just charge a premium on those platforms and entice you to subscribe via their website. That would mean users would be able to sign into Gamepass and completely circumvent the built in storefronts and their revenue streams. There is no upside from a business standpoint. Not a single one.
When someone presents you with that deal, why the fuck would you want it to take it? Would Microsoft EVER take that deal if they were in a similar position?
Of course you can argue "why would you worry about a megacorporation's revenue stream and storefront, I just want more games who cares if its bad business" but honestly I cannot shut that part of my brain down and pretend to be disappointed that Nintendo and Sony are "turning down" Microsoft's gracious Gamepass offer.
I mean that is the long game by MS and they will raise there sub price . ( just look at Netflix )
They way how games will made and certain aspect will change for this new model .
Like for eg SP games can broken down into chapters for ever month to keep you sub.
I mean you have to start somewhere. MS bought Minecraft for $3 billion, last year MS spent $9 billion for Bethesda, people called it huge, largest buyout by far. Now year later MS spends over 7 times over and bought Activision for $70 Billion. It's obvious if you want to stay competetive you got to spend money right now.
The problem is that any actual response by Sony will takes months at least to grow into existence. Planning, negotiating, and finalizing a billion dollar acquisition is extremely complicated. Sony isn't going to pick a random Tuesday next month to announced "We have bought Take Two and Square!"
Unfortunately some people will blame "Silent Sony" every chance they get until something comes to fruitation.
Mate, you are trying to hard on this one.
GTA is way bigger for both core and casual users. Once GTA6 is announced you will know.
Inquisition was good. Andromeda was rushed. Anthem was a solid base that wasn't fleshed out and never got the support it needed. ME: Legendary was a great remaster.
Plenty of mea culpa in there but I don't think they're as washed up as everyone insists.
This move affects Sony as a whole, not just SIE. The PS business represent too significant of a portion of Sony's profits for them to sit back and allow it to shrink b being muscled out by MS. Shareholders will demand some response.
Problem is GTA now is once every +10 years while CoD is every year.
I totally agree with your post. I think that part of "Gamepass everywhere" is the long game for Phil Spencer. Now whether or not GamePass on other video game systems becomes a thing remains to be seen.
Today, Microsoft announced that there are 25 million gamepass subscribers.
If all of those subs pay $15 per month, that's $375million per month.
I know there is the trick to get gamepass for $1, but how many of those 25million subs used that trick? Most people probably pay the full amount on a recurring monthly payment and probably have no idea that the $1 trick exist/s/ed.
If buying Activision puts Call of Duty on Gamepass day 1, their bet is those 25million subs may grow to 30 or maybe 40 million subs. So hypothetically that's an increase of $225million per month in new gamepass subscriptions on top of the existing ones.
Their goal is to increase the number of Gamepass subs as much as possible. Grow the service as much as possible and they will make that money back.
I know I would love to have Gamepass available on Switch. Someday. Maybe...
Honestly, I still can't stop thinking about it. Microsoft now own Activision. PS will no longer see COD games on their systems. To make it even weirder, the two franchises that propped up PS during the early days of the PS1 (Crash Bandicoot and Spyro) are now owned by Microsoft.
The mood feels sour and I hate this direction the industry is moving in. Kind of worried where PS goes from here.
The mood feels sour and I hate this direction the industry is moving in. Kind of worried where PS goes from here.
People are forgetting this. We could have made the same argument with MS, that their biggest acquisition was $9 billion, be realistic, but $9 billion is the biggest... until it's not.
After today, no acquisition announcement is shocking to me.
Here's where I disagree:
GTA is that many years because it's that much of a monster. You don't need a yearly release.
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