As long as they make MGS3 🙏
As long as they make MGS3 🙏
Funny that you point to the Poseidon Princess example, this is like one of the most evil things Kratos ever does in the entire series and it's honestly disgusting. His Character is disgusting and pathetic and GOW 2018 explores that, not as deep as i would have liked but at least it points out from time to time that Kratos is a horrible being.In movies it's much easier to disconnect because it's passive. But with games, the interactivity is key; on some level, you have to sympathize with a character enough to complete the actions they need to take to finish the game. In God of War III, I can't finish the game unless I kill the Poseidon Princess, so on some level I have to want to do it, even if I hate it on a narrative level.
Name me please one more series other than Last of Us, GTA and i guess God of War (even though they heavily course corrected in the Reboot by retconning a little) where you play truly awful people.Also movies are like typically like two hours long. Watching a movie about a dirtbag protagonist is just a quick jolt of bad energy and then it's over.
By comparison, games can be anywhere from 10 to 40+ hours long, and being mired in those characters for extremely long periods of time, while being forced to participate in the horrible things they do, can be exhausting, especially in a world as awful and full of hate as our current one.
I almost have to wonder if this shift toward dirtbag, mass-murderer "look, you're actually kind of the bad guy" protagonists is some kind of over-correction in an attempt to counter Yahtzee ribbing the Uncharted games for Nathan Drake's high body count.
Huge fan of TLOU. Really liked TLOU2 (and adored it mechanically)—its messiness is part of its allure.
Time to take a huge break. Maybe even forever. There were already tradeoffs by relitigating and making explicit the ending of 1. I just don't know thematically what they want to say about these characters they haven't already. Let Ellie be.
And yeah, I agree with PlanetSmasher that it's time for ND to do something blue-sky and fun. Even U4 was a bit of a sombre affair. Stretch some muscles, learn some new things, take advantage of the fact that you have to respect few preconceived notions of what the game 'should' and 'shouldn't' be with a new IP.
Name me please one more series other than Last of Us, GTA and i guess God of War (even though they heavily course corrected in the Reboot by retconning a little) where you play truly awful people.
I watched the Godfather Trilogy recently and that is basically 10 hours of horrible people doing bad stuff. At least everything that Michael does, still great movies. So movies can also be drawn out in that aspect. You have shows like Breaking Bad that take up to 40 hours that is the same stuff. TV Shows in general often bombard you with Asshole Protagonists.
In comparison to that bascially all other Games out there are lighthearted fun adventures where you can have fun shooting bad people in the face, style on some demons and look cool. You are extremly overestimating the amount of Games that have you play as a literally bad person. And i think Last of Us is like the only series that explores this properly in an interesting way.
I don't think it has to do with that. It's just stories that Neil really wanted to tell.I almost have to wonder if this shift toward dirtbag, mass-murderer "look, you're actually kind of the bad guy" protagonists is some kind of over-correction in an attempt to counter Yahtzee ribbing the Uncharted games for Nathan Drake's high body count.
If Neil his writing their next game, i don't think it would be "blue-sky and fun" because he said on the youtube channel of Troy Baker, he don't think he is the best to write these kind of stories.Huge fan of TLOU. Really liked TLOU2 (and adored it mechanically)—its messiness is part of its allure.
Time to take a huge break. Maybe even forever. There were already tradeoffs by relitigating and making explicit the ending of 1. I just don't know thematically what they want to say about these characters they haven't already. Let Ellie be.
And yeah, I agree with PlanetSmasher that it's time for ND to do something blue-sky and fun. Even U4 was a bit of a sombre affair. Stretch some muscles, learn some new things, take advantage of the fact that you have to respect few preconceived notions of what the game 'should' and 'shouldn't' be with a new IP.
If Neil his writing their next game, i don't think it would be "blue-sky and fun" because he said on the youtube channel of Troy Baker, he don't think he is the best to write these kind of stories.
If Neil his writing their next game, i don't think it would be "blue-sky and fun" because he said on the youtube channel of Troy Baker, he don't think he is the best to write these kind of stories.
Yea, Neil's speciality is writing characters and character stories in relatively grounded ways. It's just his thing.If Neil his writing their next game, i don't think it would be "blue-sky and fun" because he said on the youtube channel of Troy Baker, he don't think he is the best to write these kind of stories.
Halley wrote the majority of TLOU2.Maybe they need to let some other writers shine, then. He's gonna be busy with the TV series anyway, right?
It was a good game, and hopefully the next time we see Chloe they've done the right thing and either drop Nadine from the series entirely or recast her with a more appropriate voice actress.
I would love a new UC game from ND starring Chloe and Cutter, that would get me so excited.
Are you sure you like something in your life ? You're always complaining and negative. Maybe you don't realize it but it's bothering almost everyone here with the time. Plus you're never hyped by anything Sony are doing so I'm questioning what you're doing here spreading your negativity every damn day.And yes, you're right, Breaking Bad does have an asshole protagonist. Which is why I got fatigued by the show two seasons in and stopped watching.
Jin Sakai is a war criminal and an unrepentant monster. I'm sorry, but just because he got results doesn't change the fact that he committed a war crime and then showed zero remorse for it, even when his adversaries repurposed his own technology and used it against his own people.
And yes, you're right, Breaking Bad does have an asshole protagonist. Which is why I got fatigued by the show two seasons in and stopped watching.
I am curious who's writing their new IP if that's happening after Factions. Could be that it's not Neil (maybe giving help though).Maybe they need to let some other writers shine, then. He's gonna be busy with the TV series anyway, right?
Oh! Did anyone hear triple click? For the predictions episode Maddie predicted Bloodborne coming to PC and Jason said a sort of 'no comment because I have insider information'. Also mentioned 60FPS in passing. Makes you wonder...
I listened to it now but you are misphrasing what he said, he basically said that he didnt make any Playstation PC port prediction in general because of inside info, not specifically bloodborne PC inside info.
Triple Click: Our Predictions For 2021 said:Starts ~42:25
Maddie: "And then my 10th prediction---this is a very Kirk prediction---we will learn that Bloodborne is coming to PC. I'm willing to make this [predication about] Bloodborne Remastered if we want to make it harder."
Jason: "Well, any PC version would have to be remastered to the point where it runs at 60 frames per second."
Maddie: "As opposed to just---."
Kirk: "'There will be a PC version of Bloodborne' I think is sufficient [for the prediction]."
Maddie: "Mhm, that's---."
Kirk: "I like that prediction."
Maddie: "You guys don't feel like that's too easy? OK, OK."
Jason: "I will say that, because no inside info is allowed, I haven't done any PlayStation to PC predictions. So I won't comment on this one is what I'm saying."
Yeah I feel like that quote aligns with what I said pretty closely.Here is the quote:
Also, a kind request that when you're discussing something from a podcast, please have the courtesy of typing it up for everyone that may not be able to listen, as well as to avoid potentially paraphrasing anything out of context.
We're looking for a Lead Concept Artist to support leadership in the creation and realisation of the game vision on a dark, story-driven next generation 'Narrative Adventure' with genre defining goals.
We are looking for a Lead Narrative Designer to drive the player's journey on a AAA branching narrative adventure. Working alongside Narrative Direction, Writing and Design teams you will play a lead role in the seamless marriage of storytelling with gameplay and mission design. This is a great opportunity for an ambitious individual looking for their next challenge, as the team is at an early stage, you will ensure the narrative design is a central pillar of the development. You will also play an active role in helping to grow and develop the narrative design team.
Yeah I feel like that quote aligns with what I said pretty closely.
Especially when you take into account his tone.
If Neil his writing their next game, i don't think it would be "blue-sky and fun" because he said on the youtube channel of Troy Baker, he don't think he is the best to write these kind of stories.
Also movies are like typically like two hours long. Watching a movie about a dirtbag protagonist is just a quick jolt of bad energy and then it's over.
By comparison, games can be anywhere from 10 to 40+ hours long, and being mired in those characters for extremely long periods of time, while being forced to participate in the horrible things they do, can be exhausting, especially in a world as awful and full of hate as our current one.
I almost have to wonder if this shift toward dirtbag, mass-murderer "look, you're actually kind of the bad guy" protagonists is some kind of over-correction in an attempt to counter Yahtzee ribbing the Uncharted games for Nathan Drake's high body count.
Oh yeah true...Yeah, I wasn't saying you were wrong. You didn't say anything other than what he said was interesting.
That being said, Jason's comment reads to me like he either knows that Bloodborne / insert PlayStation game here *is* coming to PC or knows that Bloodborne / insert PlayStation game here *isn't* coming to PC lol. So we'll see in due time I guess!
Finally Fantasy 7 remake was just a magical experience. That nostalgia really hit home.
I'm so happy and not at all pissed that Indy and Arkane's games won't ever come out on PS5 haha 👍 👍
An Indiana Jones game where you cant see Indiana Jones would be a weird marketing choiceI mean i get the meme but too many people are rushing to say this lol. We don't even know if the game will be first or third person.
With what he said on the GQ thing, i think is gonna direct their next games, he said at the time he didnt known if they will be doing a new IP or TLOU Part III.Maybe they need to let some other writers shine, then. He's gonna be busy with the TV series anyway, right?
Finally Fantasy 7 remake was just a magical experience. That nostalgia really hit home.
doit.gifLooking at Bowser's Fury I am likely going to rebuy 3D World again for the Switch.
I hope Astro's Playroom gets something big and expansive this gen too beyond its VR sequel.
Actually this seems to be a "We have just started making this so keep an eye on our job posts" kind of announcement - like Project 007 - with Bethesda saying it'll be a while before we hear more about the game, so I think they have made Wolfenstein 3 since 2017 and finished it and started development on this in the summer. So I think this is far off.Why do we suppose that the Indiana game will not be multiplatform? I understand that the purchase of MS exists, but it is not as if the game began its development recently, we do not know the contract involved
A ton of people hate on 3D World but I liked it, Bowser's Fury although may be just a small addition looks even more free though which is nice to see while still being polished in platforming paths, etc...doit.gif
One of the best Mario games easily, and for those who never got to play it on the Wii U I'm glad they'll finally get that chance.
Why do we suppose that the Indiana game will not be multiplatform? I understand that the purchase of MS exists, but it is not as if the game began its development recently, we do not know the contract involved
Hmm, I've never actually seen a lot of hate for 3D World. The opposite actually.A ton of people hate on 3D World but I liked it, Bowser's Fury although may be just a small addition looks even more free though which is nice to see while still being polished in platforming paths, etc...
I hope Sony makes a ton of Platformers themselves this year.
Make this gen the platforming gen again.
An Indiana Jones game where you cant see Indiana Jones would be a weird marketing choice
The face-off is interesting because the script of U4 is a burial of all colonial aventures, tracing the lineage of these stories from Tomb Raider to Robert Stevenson.