You don't think 6 of these games will come out in 2021? I'll take that bet lol
Plot twist. They've always been doomed.
5 out of 11.You don't think 6 of these games will come out in 2021? I'll take that bet lol
Hmm, I think GT7 will make it actually. Apparently it was recently advertised as being a "first half of 2021" game
1. Destruction all-stars (AAA)
2. Returnal (AAA)
3. Ratchet and clank : rift apart. (AAA)
4. Gt 7. (AAA)
5. Horizon forbidden west. (AAA)
6. God of war Ragnarok. (AAA)
7. Kena : bridge of spirit (AAA)
8. Deathloop. (AAA)
9. Ghostwire Tokyo. (AAA)
10. Project athia. (AAA)
11. Final fantasy 16. (AAA)
( All of them are exclusives , timed atleast)
Is this the best 1st year of a console ever?? 🤔🤔
If all these titles make it out this year, then I would be day one for1. Destruction all-stars (AAA)
2. Returnal (AAA)
3. Ratchet and clank : rift apart. (AAA)
4. Gt 7. (AAA)
5. Horizon forbidden west. (AAA)
6. God of war Ragnarok. (AAA)
7. Kena : bridge of spirit (AAA)
8. Deathloop. (AAA)
9. Ghostwire Tokyo. (AAA)
10. Project athia. (AAA)
11. Final fantasy 16. (AAA)
( All of them are exclusives , timed atleast)
Is this the best 1st year of a console ever?? 🤔🤔
That's good for the rest of the world but if you're talking about Japan it's cataclysmic.1. Destruction all-stars (AAA)
2. Returnal (AAA)
3. Ratchet and clank : rift apart. (AAA)
4. Gt 7. (AAA)
5. Horizon forbidden west. (AAA)
6. God of war Ragnarok. (AAA)
7. Kena : bridge of spirit (AAA)
8. Deathloop. (AAA)
9. Ghostwire Tokyo. (AAA)
10. Project athia. (AAA)
11. Final fantasy 16. (AAA)
( All of them are exclusives , timed atleast)
Is this the best 1st year of a console ever?? 🤔🤔
Polyphony will never get my benefit of the doubt.Hmm, I think GT7 will make it actually. Apparently it was recently advertised as being a "first half of 2021" game
yes ,,, exactly ... they entered the industry to face giants Nintendo and sega with ps1 and survived
I don't get the weekly whining posts of returnal not being worthy day one. I would gladly pay full price for a game like returnal, than a glorified dlc or a remake with 10 years ago mechanics, but it is what it is....
Destruction all stars, returnal, r&c, kena, deathloop are the only 2021 games in this list. So, is that the best 1st year of exclusives?1. Destruction all-stars (AAA)
2. Returnal (AAA)
3. Ratchet and clank : rift apart. (AAA)
4. Gt 7. (AAA)
5. Horizon forbidden west. (AAA)
6. God of war Ragnarok. (AAA)
7. Kena : bridge of spirit (AAA)
8. Deathloop. (AAA)
9. Ghostwire Tokyo. (AAA)
10. Project athia. (AAA)
11. Final fantasy 16. (AAA)
( All of them are exclusives , timed atleast)
Is this the best 1st year of a console ever?? 🤔🤔
Demon's Souls Remake >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all the games you like and love
I don't get the weekly whining posts of returnal not being worthy day one. I would gladly pay full price for a game like returnal, than a glorified dlc or a remake with 10 years ago mechanics, but it is what it is, we all value things differently, if the game does not sell what they expect, they will lower it.
It's even funnier to me, because then you read everywhere about how sony only makes the same type of games, how they dismantled sony japan, but damn, if I would've been an executive, i would have axed sony japan even earlier, because people don't buy what is not made by the top tier teams of sony.
That's more or less the point, we could be all day posting about how a big % of the games released aren't worth day 1.I don't think pitting first-party games against each other helps your argument.
I don't know why your complaint about Miles and Demon's being held in higher regard wouldn't be a whining post, too.
For me it is the ones we have no clue about.I feel like the thing that excites me the most is the non-announced games. Like, imagine the next ND game!
Yep. I really want to see what the "secret San Diego" studio has been cooking for us!For me it is the ones we have no clue about.
Hopefully London Studio, Visual Arts and Japan Studio are actually doing something interesting.
That's more or less the point, we could be all day posting about how a big % of the games released aren't worth day 1.
If you market the game as a low-mid tier game, it's going to sell even lower(assuming quality of a title by price etc), or the difference they estimated is not worth reducing it to a 2nd tier game. It's not a game that is already appealing to the whole market, I don't think(or they, because they didn't reevaluate it) there is going to be a big difference if you tag it 59 rather than 79, it's going to sell poorly in both ways, they probably planning to milk early adopters and make fast salesSure, but as you pointed out, there are more people complaining about the price of Returnal than about other games.
That's because the perceived value don't match the price tag. The reason behind that doesn't matter at all, if the market doesn't want to pay that price for that product, then you've priced the product wrong.
We all want more variety from games. We all want Returnal to be a success. It's Sony's job to price the game accordingly so the game can be a success.
Destruction all stars, returnal, r&c, kena, deathloop are the only 2021 games in this list. So, is that the best 1st year of exclusives?
They could buy Squeenix and Capcom and have some left for Sega with the money it'd take to moneyhat GTA6.
How do you know? I'd be very surprised if Horizon doesn't make it. You think Sony has no games for the second half of the year?
1. Destruction all-stars (AAA)
2. Returnal (AAA)
3. Ratchet and clank : rift apart. (AAA)
4. Gt 7. (AAA)
5. Horizon forbidden west. (AAA)
6. God of war Ragnarok. (AAA)
7. Kena : bridge of spirit (AAA)
8. Deathloop. (AAA)
9. Ghostwire Tokyo. (AAA)
10. Project athia. (AAA)
11. Final fantasy 16. (AAA)
( All of them are exclusives , timed atleast)
Is this the best 1st year of a console ever?? 🤔🤔
Yeah, it keeps looking better each time we see more of it.The release date trailer completely sold me on Returnal, I hope there's a PS5 bundle with the game come March.
Kena is not a AAA game. Doesn't make me less excited for it but still, keep in mind what the scale is most likely going to be. And no way are you getting both Athia and XVI in the same year. Other than that though, completely ridiculous year for PS5.1. Destruction all-stars (AAA)
2. Returnal (AAA)
3. Ratchet and clank : rift apart. (AAA)
4. Gt 7. (AAA)
5. Horizon forbidden west. (AAA)
6. God of war Ragnarok. (AAA)
7. Kena : bridge of spirit (AAA)
8. Deathloop. (AAA)
9. Ghostwire Tokyo. (AAA)
10. Project athia. (AAA)
11. Final fantasy 16. (AAA)
( All of them are exclusives , timed atleast)
Is this the best 1st year of a console ever?? 🤔🤔
True. But I think that Returnal and Destruction are also "just" AA and not AAA games.Kena is not a AAA game. Doesn't make me less excited for it but still, keep in mind what the scale is most likely going to be. And no way are you getting both Athia and XVI in the same year. Other than that though, completely ridiculous year for PS5.
Nah, Returnal is AAA. You'll see.True. But I think that Returnal and Destruction are also "just" AA and not AAA games.
It doesn't change the fact that it's not a AAA game, despite looking and feeling like one due to Insomniac's crazy level of polish.Mhm, i think if you compare Ratchet 2016 to the OG Game not much is left there that you can compare it to. It's essentially a different Game that shares a few similar level parts from the original Game. Planets like Veldin are 100% different for example, other planets were cut, new ones were added.
AAA games are defined by their budget, not their genre. Both are definitely AAA productions.True. But I think that Returnal and Destruction are also "just" AA and not AAA games.
AAA budgets can range from 20M to 200+M if not more. Control was around 20~30M to develop.I hope it doesn't have a AAA budget because if so it's almost guaranteed to flop financially. That game ain't selling enough for that.
Kena is a high-end(/AAA) looking indie game, just like Hellblade was when it released. However, it is not a AAA game.1. Destruction all-stars (AAA)
2. Returnal (AAA)
3. Ratchet and clank : rift apart. (AAA)
4. Gt 7. (AAA)
5. Horizon forbidden west. (AAA)
6. God of war Ragnarok. (AAA)
7. Kena : bridge of spirit (AAA)
8. Deathloop. (AAA)
9. Ghostwire Tokyo. (AAA)
10. Project athia. (AAA)
11. Final fantasy 16. (AAA)
( All of them are exclusives , timed atleast)
Is this the best 1st year of a console ever?? 🤔🤔
Hm ok. I don't have a problem with the genre, but I really thought both games don't have a high budget. But when the scale for a AAA games already starts at 20M (and goes over 200M), than of course it is an AAA game. But in this case I think the categorization in A/AA/AAA feels unnecessary.AAA games are defined by their budget, not their genre. Both are definitely AAA productions.
AAA budgets can range from 20M to 200+M if not more. Control was around 20~30M to develop.
At this budget, even if they only sold 1M copies, they would break even and make profit.
Even their best arcade games didn't sell enough at 20-30$ to be profitable. I don't see your point. There's a reason why they abandoned these types of games and went with AAA instead.
Kena is a high-end(/AAA) looking indie game, just like Hellblade was when it released. However, it is not a AAA game.
There is a difference. One game was developed by a team of ~80+ people, while the other was developed by a team of ~250+ people (with a total of ~2000+ people working on it if you add in the outsourcing studios). The Last of Us Part 2 was the game it is because of all the studios who helped with it. So the budget for TLOU2 was probably 10-20 times that of Returnal.Hm ok. I don't have a problem with the genre, but I really thought both games don't have a high budget. But when the scale for a AAA games already starts at 20M (and goes over 200M), than of course it is an AAA game. But in this case I think the categorization in A/AA/AAA feels unnecessary.
Didn't mean to attack Returnal/Destruction. Returnal is a day one title for me and I think Destruction is an interesting title. But I also see a difference between Returnal and for example Tlou.
There is a difference. One game was developed by a team of ~80+ people, while the other was developed by a team of ~250+ people (with a total of ~2000+ people working on it if you add in the outsourcing studios). The Last of Us Part 2 was the game it is because of all the studios who helped with it. So the budget for TLOU2 was probably 10-20 times that of Returnal.
How I view it is it's AAA for Housemarque, when you look at what they've done in the past, but it is a lower end AAA game.True. But I think that Returnal and Destruction are also "just" AA and not AAA games.
It's square with a woman lead it's coming in 2024 at earliestTbf, people have said it's closer than it appears, but I take that as 2022.
Returnal looks like a competent game that I would like to try eventually. However that 80€ price tag does not match the expectations, hype, prestige and perceived value of this game. This may be sad but that's how it is.
And for those who are tired of this "value" discussion, this is only the beginning. The price hike of games is going to be a major factor in next-gen. I predict that we won't see much more of these record-breaking launches of first-party games, people will be a lot more cautious about their purchases. The reported abysmal numbers of Miles Morales and Demon's Souls are early indications of this.