Sony went out to the corner store and never came back with Bluepoint cigs or a 6 pack of Housemarque
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It's not any different to Control on these fronts (in terms of quality) and Control was a full-priced release despite being in the low-end of AAA budgets. It's just fucked up that the UK pricing is wack. Going from 45£ to 80£ is BS.
Best Insomniac game.
Shame is probably getting stuck on PS3 if you want to play it natively.
Control budget was €20-30 million, that's low-low-end of AAA
I guess it's just perception. I don't mean to be dismissive of the game, but Control looks like a $60 when I saw gameplay of it, and Returnal doesn't look like a $70 game (to me). And again, even last-gen's full retail price of $60 might have even changed my perception a little bit. $70 is a hard pill to swallow for games. I haven't bought a single $70 game yet and I'm going to have to be vey picky about that.
I'd disagree that it being a mostly a remake disqualifies it form being AAA or Demons' Souls PS5 wouldn't be AAA.
In the end it doesn't matter if it's AA or AAA.
People will make the decision if the game is worth 70$. From the early reaction, it doesn't seem the way that people perceive a 70$ value for the game.
That might change when we get more footage or reviews, but 70 bucks will always be a tough sell and your game have to live up to these expectations of a huge blockbuster game that's super expensive to make to justify that price tag.
Something like Horizon and God of War won't have any problems with that, but I think it will be a quite a struggle for Returnal.
People will make the decision if the game is worth 70$. From the early reaction, it doesn't seem the way that people perceive a 70$ value for the game.
That might change when we get more footage or reviews, but 70 bucks will always be a tough sell and your game have to live up to these expectations of a huge blockbuster game that's super expensive to make to justify that price tag.
Something like Horizon and God of War won't have any problems with that, but I think it will be a quite a struggle for Returnal.
Arcade shooter is undeniably a niche genre and roughlikes don't really exist outside of the indie space. Combining the two and charging $70 feels risky.
But I think good reviews (practically guaranteed), word of mouth and being an early PS5 exclusive will give Returnal a fighting chance. A demo for people to check out that sweet sweet Housemarque gameplay would be brilliant as well.
But I think good reviews (practically guaranteed), word of mouth and being an early PS5 exclusive will give Returnal a fighting chance. A demo for people to check out that sweet sweet Housemarque gameplay would be brilliant as well.
Is there any word on how long the campaign is?
I'm not a big fan of using the hours of gameplay vs money spent argument, but if the campaign is short like The Order 1886, that could hurt Returnal's chances at $70.
I'm not a big fan of using the hours of gameplay vs money spent argument, but if the campaign is short like The Order 1886, that could hurt Returnal's chances at $70.
Since its a rougelike with lots of replayability i dont expect an actual long campaign.
It.was.developed really quick as well wasnt it? I guess it didnt have to be fully priced.
Still a AAA though.
That's fair. SIE needs to do a better job at convincing people that Returnal will be worth people's time (and money).
The Ratcher and Clank 2016 remake is not AAA because it wasn't budgeted as one. The game was developed and shipped under 2 years. They only had 10 months initially to ship the game. It's not AAA. Also, let's not compare the scale at which the Ratchet and Clank remake was made to the one for Demon's Souls on PS5. Demon's Souls is a much much bigger game than any Ratchet and Clank game ever will be.
It was. Announced at E3 2014 and released in April 2016, the game only had 10 months initially to ship the game (until the movie was pushed back).
Not just that, we need a deep dive of how the game operates(upgrades, story, runs, etc). It's coming, I hope in the next weeks.
Replayability can be found elsewhere and in different ways. Like through a Boss Rush mode, Survival/Wave mode, multiple endings, it could be anything. The details behind its replayability has not been revealed yet. Let's not assume because the game has roguelike elements and lots of replayability that it will be a short game.
Well for example you can do hades runs within 15 min and i played that game for 50+ hours already so... :) Im not concerned about the lenght of the first playthrough at all
Destruction Allstars also needs a better video showing game modes and so on. Those Days Gone videos and both GOT/TLOU2 State Of Plays need to be used as a example.
I need my shoot of particles.
Otherwise people should not forget that Returnal is released five month after the console launch. The current PS5 demographic isn't representative of a mainstream audience, and maybe more inclined to buy game like this, rogue fans or not, housemarque fans or not, because it looks made for next-gen and not just improved by, while immediately identifiable as a shooter.
And for people who are begging for a console in every tweets posted by official Sony accounts, it's also a nice showcase that has something extremely sophisticated and purely retro at the same time. Here I am not objective, but I feel like the young boy I was discovering R-Type, Super Metroid, F-Zero or Shadow of the beast when seeing this, it's gorgeous.
Like you said, Bloodborne can be done in 20mins too and that's easily a 35-50h game (at minimum).
On a shopping spree? 🤔
Wow. First time I've seen this and have been interested, they been showing it so weirdly I feel. Looks fun.
I remember them saying there games were underperforming and we not talking about matter fall alone .
Housemarque declare "arcade is dead," ditch the genre
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I love there games and i hope this one does good but they don't seem to have luck with sales.
Like bio? Bioshock? Sony buying Cloud Chamber Montreal-studio from 2K Games. Next Bioshock full PS exclusive.😂
Underperforming in the sense that Mattefall and Nex Machina (3rd party) didn't do well anymore, because Arcada games where dying? That was known. It was time for the next AAA step.I remember them saying there games were underperforming and we not talking about matterfall alone .
Which is why they were look at doing other things.Housemarque declare "arcade is dead," ditch the genre
"Arcade is dead," Finnish studio Housemarque declared today. They're overstating a little, of course, but they are done…
That on plus for 2 months WOM will have to carry that more than anything like fallguys or RL .
That's comparing apples to oranges.
The average time to clear Hades one time is 30 min.
However, it might take 10-15 hrs to get your first clear because you will be continually dying and also meeting new characters, new story and getting new upgrades.
And then once you beat Hades, you have to beat the game 9 more times to actually unravel the entire story and get the credits. And then their is an epilogue after playing countless more hours and the game incentivizes countless hours with its heat level system.
No one here is talking about speedruns lmao...20 min for Boodborne...come on now haha.
Oh. I didn't know the average playthrough for Hades was around 30 mins. Kinda suprised by that. Haha. 😂
acquisitions talk .... it is booooring
every body said nintiindo is doomed when microsoft acquired Rare but look at what happened to one of the best studios ever
microsoft mismanagement is the real issue and I feel they will mismanage Bethesda as they mismanaged 343 and many
also Sony aquired insomniac one of the best in industry ... people are ungrateful
every body said nintiindo is doomed when microsoft acquired Rare but look at what happened to one of the best studios ever
microsoft mismanagement is the real issue and I feel they will mismanage Bethesda as they mismanaged 343 and many
also Sony aquired insomniac one of the best in industry ... people are ungrateful
Bethesda already said that being owned by MS won't change the development culture or management style. And let's not compare the early days of MS/Xbox management style when it first started to thr one of today. 😐
Really excited about Returnal.
I love Resogun so much and Returnal just seems to be Housemarque going beyond what they have ever done for but still bringing what they are always known for.
Side note:
Does anyone else have any problems playing Rise of the Tomb Raider. I always get nauseous when I play it and cant last 5 mins. I thought It'd be better when I got a Pro years back. Now with PS5 and locked framerates, it still gives me headaches. I think it might be the motion blur or something.
Pretty good month for PS+ for me. Dodged a bullet not buying Shadow of the Tomb Raider last month. Now I have 20$ left towards my next purchase for PS5 I swear I'll get to Demon's Souls. I just need the proper timing and mindset.
I love Resogun so much and Returnal just seems to be Housemarque going beyond what they have ever done for but still bringing what they are always known for.
Side note:
Does anyone else have any problems playing Rise of the Tomb Raider. I always get nauseous when I play it and cant last 5 mins. I thought It'd be better when I got a Pro years back. Now with PS5 and locked framerates, it still gives me headaches. I think it might be the motion blur or something.
Pretty good month for PS+ for me. Dodged a bullet not buying Shadow of the Tomb Raider last month. Now I have 20$ left towards my next purchase for PS5 I swear I'll get to Demon's Souls. I just need the proper timing and mindset.
Good friend of mine can't play Rise either, because of the motion blur. She feels sick after a short while and gets a headache. So yeah, happens. It's the motion blur.
Rise and Shadow never bothered me in terms of motion blur and giving me a headache, but I'm sorry to hear about that.
1. Destruction all-stars (AAA)
2. Returnal (AAA)
3. Ratchet and clank : rift apart. (AAA)
4. Gt 7. (AAA)
5. Horizon forbidden west. (AAA)
6. God of war Ragnarok. (AAA)
7. Kena : bridge of spirit (AAA)
8. Deathloop. (AAA)
9. Ghostwire Tokyo. (AAA)
10. Project athia. (AAA)
11. Final fantasy 16. (AAA)
12. Factions 2. (AAA)
13. MLB the show 21. (AAA)
( All of them are exclusives , timed atleast)
Is this the best 1st year of a console ever?? 🤔🤔
2. Returnal (AAA)
3. Ratchet and clank : rift apart. (AAA)
4. Gt 7. (AAA)
5. Horizon forbidden west. (AAA)
6. God of war Ragnarok. (AAA)
7. Kena : bridge of spirit (AAA)
8. Deathloop. (AAA)
9. Ghostwire Tokyo. (AAA)
10. Project athia. (AAA)
11. Final fantasy 16. (AAA)
12. Factions 2. (AAA)
13. MLB the show 21. (AAA)
( All of them are exclusives , timed atleast)
Is this the best 1st year of a console ever?? 🤔🤔
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