Yes I hope so and will be out on PS5 too alongside TLOU2 remaster with betetr graphics and RT, 4K60FPS.
Sold 21 million across how many platforms? take Playstation user base out of the equation and what does that bring sales down to?Truth hurts.
Skyrim has sold over 30 million copies.. Come on now. We are celebrating Last of Us selling 21 million.. I think it is bigger than any Sony first party game. Keep in mind even Spiderman is not a Sony IP. Who knows if they will have the license for it in the next 5 years
Whichi is why I think they should be more aggressive when it comes to investments. It sucks to acquire third party publishers but what do you when there are just a few of them left?
Did you guys checkout this?
Vacation has had bunch of these competitions. This one was for coming up with lore and art work for Sixth Archstone in Demon's Soul. It's fanfic but really really good fanfic.
People really need to calm here lol
It's funny that the Nintendo thread is having more discussion of the PlayStation games thhan here
It's like pages filled with acquisition talks :-/
When you put it that way it's kinda crazy that the biggest Sony division barely had any acquisitions this past decadeThat's it. 8 years and barely any acquisitions for Sony's biggest cash cow SIE/PlayStation.
Max been talking about what happened with Microsoft and made some comments regarding what he thinks Sony gonna do.
He mentions buying Bluepoint which is long overdue at this point.
And he mentions Capcom (it's a prediction, no info or anything).
But while I was sure Sony wouldn't couldn't buy an entire publisher it's starting to sound less crazier right now.
I must admit I got a PS3 like 1 or 2 years after it came out. (Near MGS4 release) and I completely forgot the doom and gloom ps3 gaf days. Either I was a gud boi who was still innocent and had no need to enter the console wars so i guess in a sense i was oblivious to these dark days lol.Oh, man. I remember those days. I was on GAF back them, too. Almost every day was a news article or opinion piece that spelt doom for Sony. Every NPD release day was dreadful since Sony fans had to suffering through the concern trolling and mocking with no real answer. I remember when people were taking bets on which platform would outsell the other that month: the PS3 or the freaking GBA. Every Sony financial thread had numerous people wondering if Sony is going down or if Sony should sell the PS division.
Max been talking about what happened with Microsoft and made some comments regarding what he thinks Sony gonna do.
He mentions buying Bluepoint which is long overdue at this point.
And he mentions Capcom (it's a prediction, no info or anything).
But while I was sure Sony wouldn't couldn't buy an entire publisher it's starting to sound less crazier right now.
Wasn't there a rumor about Konami and Capcom for a while there? Bluepoint is a given at this point.
I mean, what more does Sony and some people here need to know?
Sounds good, doesn't it!?If Sony were to acquire SE, this is what would be included in the acquisition:
Popular IPs:
Final Fantasy
Dragon Quest
Kingdom Hearts
Tomb Raider
Life is Strange
Just Cause
Drakengard/Nier
Deus Ex
Star Ocean
Thief
Parasite Eve
Avengers (License)
Notable Developers
Square Enix
Eidos
Crystal Dynamics
Tokyo RPG
Taito
Luminous
IO Interactive (small stake)
Famous Manga/Anime (yep):
Fullmetal Alchemist
Black Butler
Soul Eater
Its a good hold and it could be a good counter to Bethesda, at least on the RPG side of things. I still don't think they would sell though.
After yesterdays bombshell and today's news that even more acquisitions are coming for MS? For sure. Long overdue.Appreciate the receipts.
Looking at that, yeah, Sony needs to start investing into the PlayStation brand significantly.
They tought "Hey, we have enough" because the others had less.Damn any reason for this lack of investment compared to other divisions?
This is where Sony could an would help. One of the many reasons why a SE acquisition would make perfect sense for both companies. Great IPs (for the western market AND for Japan), great studios and teams. Well known IPs for the PlayStation community/system.Eh square is a good choice but the production pipeline is still fucked and the turnaround time for games is far too long right now. They need to decide one one engine and shorten the eastern side of dev times significantly.
They did in July 2012. Damn, I almost forgot. But hey, I have an excuse. I said "in the last 8 years". July 2012 > 8 years ;P
Yep. Especially when you compare it with all the other Sony divisions. Now their biggest and most important cash cow is under attack. As Sony said themselves "Content is king". Well, the war is on. NOW or never. Don't wait until shit hits the fan and it's too late. As I've said many times. Get Square-Enix.When you put it that way it's kinda crazy that the biggest Sony division barely had any acquisitions this past decade
Yeah. Souls community is really talented. There concept in there good enough and deep enough to make a whole Demon's Soul sequel.
Bluepoint release a game every two or three years and they make Remake not new IP's maybe at some point but i don't see them stop what their doing for a long time and honestly they are way more chance that Sony buy Bluepoint than Capcom.The thing is, if they bought Capcom, than Sony has locked in 2-3 AAA exclusives games per year on top of their current output of about 2 per year. Those would most likely be already proven sellers to established IP's. They key is to keep pushing quality content that most people are familiar to as opposed to taking the chance on creating a new IP and making 2 games top per generation.
As time goes on, it gets longer and longer for games to come out, so having a strong and steady flow of games is what will keep people more invested.
There was a nice article about what Sony as a whole has acquired in the last 5 years. Can't find it anymore :/
Some examples for Sony Music:
- Acquires "EMI Music Publishing" in 2018 for $2.3 billion to become the largest music publisher in the world
- Acquires "Milan Records" and "Jade" in 2019
- Acquires majority stake in "Senbla" in 2019
- Acquires "RGL" in 2018
- Acquires "Araca Group's" Music Merchandise Division in 2019
- Acquires Kontraband in 2019
- Acquires "Ministry of Sound" in 2016 for $100 million
And this goes on and on. Acquisitions, joint-ventures, minority stake acquisitions, etc. Deals with labels, music stars and other copanies not included.
Some examples for Sony Pictures:
- Acquires "Funimation" in 2017 for $150 million
- Acquires "Manga Entertainment" in 2019
- Acquires "Eleven" in 2020
- Acquires "Silvergate Media" in 2019 for $195 million
- Acquires AT&T's stake in "Game Show Network" in 2019 for $500 million (now owns 100% of the company)
- Acquires "Ten Sports" in 2016 for $385 million
- Acquires "Madman's" Anime Division in 2019 for ~$25 million
- Acquires in "Nurulize" 2019
And this goes on and on, too . Acquisitions, joint-ventures, minority stake acquisitions, etc. Deals with cable/streaming companies, etc.
Then there are other examples like "Sony acquiring full control of the Financial Unit for $3.7 billion in 2020". And many more acquititions and additions for Sony Electronics, SCA, the Semiconductor Solutions Group, etc.
Sony Interactive Entertainment's acquisitions in the last ~8 years (more than the complete PS4 generation):
- Insominac Games in 2019 for $229 million
- Audiokinetic in 2019
Closed 1st party studios by Sony in the last 8 years:
- Manchester Studio (2020)
- Cambridge Studio (2017)
- Evolution Studios (2016)
- Sony Online Entertainment (Sold - 2015)
- Zipper Interactive (2012)
- Studio Liverpool (2012)
- BigbigStudios (2012)
That's it. 8 years and barely any acquisitions for Sony's biggest cash cow SIE/PlayStation. More closures than acquisitions. At least they finally brought Insomniac home. Regarding bigger acquisitions, don't forget how Sony was interested in buying Fox, or how Sony was once interested in buying MGM for $5 billion, etc.
So say what you want, but it's time for Sony to invest big in SIE. Especially now after Amazon, Facebook, Apple and Google are lurking and while Microsoft has almost ten 1st party studios more and Nintendo is stronger than ever with the Switch (especially in Japan). Sony needs to invest and get more studios. And they should strengthen SIE in Japan, too.
My opinion? Go big and get Square-Enix.
There was a nice article about what Sony as a whole has acquired in the last 5 years. Can't find it anymore :/
Some examples for Sony Music:
- Acquires "EMI Music Publishing" in 2018 for $2.3 billion to become the largest music publisher in the world
- Acquires "Milan Records" and "Jade" in 2019
- Acquires majority stake in "Senbla" in 2019
- Acquires "RGL" in 2018
- Acquires "Araca Group's" Music Merchandise Division in 2019
- Acquires Kontraband in 2019
- Acquires "Ministry of Sound" in 2016 for $100 million
And this goes on and on. Acquisitions, joint-ventures, minority stake acquisitions, etc. Deals with labels, music stars and other companies not included.
Some examples for Sony Pictures:
- Acquires "Funimation" in 2017 for $150 million
- Acquires "Manga Entertainment" in 2019
- Acquires "Eleven" in 2020
- Acquires "Silvergate Media" in 2019 for $195 million
- Acquires AT&T's stake in "Game Show Network" in 2019 for $500 million (now owns 100% of the company)
- Acquires "Ten Sports" in 2016 for $385 million
- Acquires "Madman's" Anime Division in 2019 for ~$25 million
- Acquires in "Nurulize" 2019
And this goes on and on, too . Acquisitions, joint-ventures, minority stake acquisitions, etc. Deals with cable/streaming companies, etc.
Then there are other examples like "Sony acquiring full control of the Financial Unit for $3.7 billion in 2020". And many more acquititions and additions for Sony Electronics, SCA, the Semiconductor Solutions Group, etc.
Sony Interactive Entertainment's acquisitions in the last ~8 years (more than the complete PS4 generation):
- Insominac Games in 2019 for $229 million
- Audiokinetic in 2019
Closed 1st party studios by Sony in the last 8 years:
- Manchester Studio (2020)
- Cambridge Studio (2017)
- Evolution Studios (2016)
- Sony Online Entertainment (Sold - 2015)
- Zipper Interactive (2012)
- Studio Liverpool (2012)
- BigbigStudios (2012)
That's it. 8 years and barely any acquisitions for Sony's biggest cash cow SIE/PlayStation. More closures than acquisitions. At least they finally brought Insomniac home. Regarding bigger acquisitions, don't forget how Sony was interested in buying Fox, or how Sony was once interested in buying MGM for $5 billion, etc.
So say what you want, but it's time for Sony to invest big in SIE. Especially now after Amazon, Facebook, Apple and Google are lurking and while Microsoft has almost ten 1st party studios more and Nintendo is stronger than ever with the Switch (especially in Japan). Sony needs to invest and get more studios. And they should strengthen SIE in Japan, too.
My opinion? Go big and get Square-Enix.
That is what i have been think as well, if Sony is going to buy a publisher is Capcom.
They are worth around 6B, so realisty, Sony whould need to spend around 8B and they whould got acess to:
Monster Hunter
Resident Evil
Stree Fighter
Devil May Cry
And even minor stuff like Marvel vs Capcom and Dino Crisis.
They whould also get acess to a big RPG with Dragons Dogma.
That is my bet if they are going to buy a big publisher.
Bluepoint release a game every two or three years and they make Remake not new IP's maybe at some point but i don't see them stop what their doing for a long time and honestly they are way more chance that Sony buy Bluepoint than Capcom.
I think having a studio like Bluepoint where you know they can make amazing Remake relatively fast and maybe later building a second team for making their own games. I don't see lot of better independent studios like them for Sony.
I don't care if it's official, GoW2 is not coming out next year, Horizon 2 i think it will.Is it unreasonable to expect Horizon in spring since God of War II will probably be fall?
Oh wow, this is actually a good portfolio.If Sony were to acquire SE, this is what would be included in the acquisition:
Popular IPs:
Final Fantasy
Dragon Quest
Kingdom Hearts
Tomb Raider
Life is Strange
Just Cause
Drakengard/Nier
Deus Ex
Star Ocean
Thief
Parasite Eve
Avengers (License)
Notable Developers
Square Enix
Eidos
Crystal Dynamics
Tokyo RPG
Taito
Luminous
IO Interactive (small stake)
Famous Manga/Anime (yep):
Fullmetal Alchemist
Black Butler
Soul Eater
Its a good hold and it could be a good counter to Bethesda, at least on the RPG side of things. I still don't think they would sell though.
If Sony were to acquire SE, this is what would be included in the acquisition:
Popular IPs:
Final Fantasy
Dragon Quest
Kingdom Hearts
Tomb Raider
Life is Strange
Just Cause
Drakengard/Nier
Deus Ex
Star Ocean
Thief
Parasite Eve
Avengers (License)
Notable Developers
Square Enix
Eidos
Crystal Dynamics
Tokyo RPG
Taito
Luminous
IO Interactive (small stake)
Famous Manga/Anime (yep):
Fullmetal Alchemist
Black Butler
Soul Eater
Its a good hold and it could be a good counter to Bethesda, at least on the RPG side of things. I still don't think they would sell though.
I hope Sony doesn't buy a publisher. No one should want Sony to buy a publisher.
That just makes things shittier for everyone. MS and Nintendo fans won't get Capcom games.
Especially if it's Amazon, Facebook or Google jumping into the party. Or hell even apple.I really hope this buying entire publishers starts and ends with Xbox buying Bethesda and doesn't turn into a back and forth thing. Picking up an independent studio is one thing but this shit gives me the willies.
Who needs DMC when Lost Soul Aside is gonna takeover that mantle?Oh wow, this is actually a good portfolio.
I am biased towards capcom tho, simply due to DMC lol
'shady things'
'arrogant Sony'
At least put more effort to convince people you aren't trying to troll lol
I prefer all of them get all publishers than Microsoft consolidate publishers to put Sony out of the game.Especially if it's Amazon, Facebook or Google jumping into the party. Or hell even apple.
Especially if it's Amazon, Facebook or Google jumping into the party. Or hell even apple.
Is it unreasonable to expect Horizon in spring since God of War II will probably be fall?
Just where i compare the value between Bluepoint and Capcom or Square ?Bluepoint doesn't get them anywhere close to the value something like a Capcom or Square Enix would. Like a one-game team that just makes remakes is nothing. It doesn't shore up any weaknesses they have as a brand and it doesn't prevent Microsoft from stealing more key third party support, which they will continue to do.
Like if Microsoft is eating entire publishers and the best Sony can do is Bluepoint, they honestly deserve to lose next gen, hard. They have to think bigger than that.
I mean they might just lock shit away too. Unless they just wanna be pubs.I prefer all of them get all publishers than Microsoft consolidate publishers to put Sony out of the game.
Were you trying to make your post look like an absolute joke? I mean, you succeeded. I give it it 10/10.Yes. MS has been honest. Good corporation. No games only for next gen, exclusivity is bad, Halo didn't get delayed and looked amazing, they haven't had issues with pre-orders, and have shown a lot of games running on their shiny new console. And all they studios are releasing games within a year.
Hyperbole much.
The thng I think Max nails is that there could be more than one company right now that might be pissed at what happened and Sony has been trying to make big investment for a while now, that money is still there available to negotiate (probably) and what happened yesterday and even Microsoft saying to be willing to buy more could accelerate a process for Sony and others.
What I think is that if Sony or Microsoft (or google or amazon!) buy another publisher this is going to be a mess lol
Oh wow, this is actually a good portfolio.
I am biased towards capcom tho, simply due to DMC lol
Who needs DMC when Lost Soul Aside is gonna takeover that mantle?
:V
Capcom definitely makes a lot of sense. They're open to being acquired, have a lot of IP that sells well primarily on Playstation, and really flesh out the genres Sony could offer. The only alternative I could see is maybe SE, or just going on a spending spree with a bunch of individual studios. MS bought Bethesda way overpriced at the end of the day. They only have two games that consistently sell over 5m in TES and FO. Their other franchises are in decline. That's not to say the games are bad, obviously, but if all of those studios had been independent it would have been a fraction of the price. For as little as $1.5B Sony could likely pick up enough studios to equalise on output. They wouldn't be studios with TES or FO to their name, but the output would be there.That is what i have been think as well, if Sony is going to buy a publisher is Capcom.
They are worth around 6B, so realisty, Sony whould need to spend around 8B and they whould got acess to:
Monster Hunter
Resident Evil
Stree Fighter
Devil May Cry
And even minor stuff like Marvel vs Capcom and Dino Crisis.
They whould also get acess to a big RPG with Dragons Dogma.
That is my bet if they are going to buy a big publisher.
Why is it a new SKU? So they can sell it again or because it genuinely has new content that warrants it?Spider-Man PS4 saves don't carry over because the remaster is a brand new SKU with brand new trophies. There you go
Oh wow, this is actually a good portfolio.
I am biased towards capcom tho, simply due to DMC lol
Why choose when you can have both ? x)Who needs DMC when Lost Soul Aside is gonna takeover that mantle?
:V
Yah Matt said as well, the buy out by Microsoft acelerated this things. I honestly think if they are going for a publisher is Capcom, a lot of does games are already successful on their platform so they whould just secure the content and the developers.
i chuckled. lool
.... and Mega Man.That is what i have been think as well, if Sony is going to buy a publisher is Capcom.
They are worth around 6B, so realisty, Sony whould need to spend around 8B and they whould got acess to:
Monster Hunter
Resident Evil
Stree Fighter
Devil May Cry
And even minor stuff like Marvel vs Capcom and Dino Crisis.
They whould also get acess to a big RPG with Dragons Dogma.
That is my bet if they are going to buy a big publisher.
Nah they will want money from everyone. Microsoft just want to lock Sony out of content.I mean they might just lock shit away too. Unless they just wanna be pubs.
I hope Sony doesn't buy a publisher. No one should want Sony to buy a publisher.
That just makes things shittier for everyone. MS and Nintendo fans won't get Capcom games.