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PlayStation Studios |OT13| The One With the Price and Release Date. Maybe ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Those games will balance out Silent Hill and RaySpace really well! 🥴
Oh for sure. I've been doing the Playstation + Nintendo combo for 20 years lol. I never owned a PS1 (or a Wii U), but ever since I got a PS2 for Christmas in 2001 and then a Gamecube a couple years later, I've always thought they complement each other well. Plus I've always had a healthy dose of PC gaming on the side, mostly for sims and strategy games (my dad played a few PC games when I was younger, and Red Alert 2 really got me into strategy games. I probably played that plus the Yuri's Revenge expansion for hundreds of hours lol).
It's just frustrating that now that I finally have the funds to play pretty much anything I could want, I have less time than ever to actually play lol.
Agreed. A Microsoft event seems highly likely for next week. The week after is TGS and I dont see Sony doing anything during that time. Last week of September/first week of October seems like the right time. They'll likely know what will be launching day 1 by then also.
i dont trust any one of them on price. that is held close to the chest and like you said it was because of a video and image.
Even Eric Lempel, Senior Vice President, PlayStation Worldwide Marketing, didn't know what the PS5 looked like before the final design was locked. That thing was like in a vault and Jim Ryan showed it to him.
Seems things like these are on a need to know basis. Only very few people at the very top of PS know.
Seems things like these are on a need to know basis. Only very few people at the very top of PS know.
My actual suspicion is $549 USD, as was quoted here and can see the discussion. The range shared I've heard is 60,000 - 70,000 yen, which precisely in USD something like $565 USD to $660 USD. However, I suspect they'll go for $549 in USD and maybe to compete will go lower.
I don't know the final price, I don't know how this exactly will translated to USD, but I also know the yen ballpark I know isn't bullshit. If they go for $499 USD, then great. But I'm placing my bets on $549 USD and I don't think they can go lower than $500 really from what I've heard.
I don't know the final price, I don't know how this exactly will translated to USD, but I also know the yen ballpark I know isn't bullshit. If they go for $499 USD, then great. But I'm placing my bets on $549 USD and I don't think they can go lower than $500 really from what I've heard.
Jim Ryan no doubt will bet he one revealing the price at the end of whatever event.
Yeah, it's remarkable the contradictory stuff they keep running with and tales from their asses with practically no critical thinking. The media and these insiders seem to just always be chugging that MS koolaid, I dunno if it's because they are US media or what, but it's like PS3-level rumor-mongering despite the PS4 delivering extremely well and everything about the PS5 pointing to them having if anything an even stronger games first focus than ever.
Yeah, I don't see how it's so hard, especially since it's the main part of their job...
Sadly this is the course of life for most of us. We finally get money to play the games of our dreams, and now babies, rent, mortgages, economic recessions, and a whole host of adulting crowds out any free-time. Thankfully this year I've been working from home and able to get a lot more game time in.
I really can't see any reason why the PS5 would be more expensive than the Series X, unless arrogant Sony is back at full force.
$549 feels like such a weird price. Not saying you're wrong though. Just feels weird. We'll know soon, I guess.
Yea if the Series X is $500 I can't see why the PS5 would be any more expensive.
Imagine thinking that Sony would produce 10 M console in two quarters to sell them at 549. Not even Crazy Ken in his unleashed moment around 2005 - 2006 would do something like that.
Either the report from Nikkei and corroborated by Bloomberg (which also reported a 450 BOM) was false or 549 doesn't make any sense.
Either the report from Nikkei and corroborated by Bloomberg (which also reported a 450 BOM) was false or 549 doesn't make any sense.
Based on all that talk about value instead of price, plus knowledgeable estimations from df et al. What's your guess based on?
Pretty interesting take. Personally, I think they have to 100% go lower. Being priced higher than a competing product while having objectively less technical specs in many areas means basically baiting the grim reaper in this industry. "Goodwill" and being a "Market Leader" can only take you so far, and can easily be wiped out by one misstep.
Thanks for the clarification.
I just don't think your source is right. $549 doesn't make sense from a business perspective. Sony would just take that $50 loss to reach $499. It's an immensely important price threshold.
Moreover, we know from Bloomberg and Zhuge that PS5 is cheaper to build than XSX, so no reason to sell it for more.
I understand your information Dusk
The problem is, Sony financial report states they expect to gain 4B in revenue and lose 600M in profit, so, unless the ps5 BOM is 550+, then the math doesnt check out, neither does the increase in production for 6M to 10M.
yeah I dont see it either. for example for PS4 they sold through 10 million PS4 units by august of 2014. So for them to want to have manufactured that many by march if reports are correct means something.
No one was claiming Serie S was $299 before announced and it was.
I will believe the price when Jim himself says it.
I will believe the price when Jim himself says it.
Regardless of the name share and market share Sony has right now, launching base PS5 #1. over $499 & #2. higher than a more powerful* XSX would be a mistake. It would be shades of an overly ambitious PS3 in 2006 (which is still lampooned) and I would be shocked if that happens.
I'm guessing that their source is from an internal Capcom estimate done based purely on looking at the specs (which is why DF was hitting upwards of $599). From what we've heard about the BoM from the Japanese guy with Sony knowledge and also the mass production of the console I doubt the minimum will be $560 lol.
This. Nothing about $549 US would make sense. It's such a weird price unless they were undercutting a $599 X, changing the first number is the most important psychologically and they've also doubled production and repeatedly talked about getting people to move up quickly from PS4 to PS5.
Exactly. You don't ramp up production to 10 million for that type of price point.
I am so sick of this shit too I really am is make posting here so unfun.
yeah its somewhat easy to glean some idea based on the parts lists, i dont see it happening either, and the way sony has been closely guarding things with the console other than software related rumors, i dont think anyone but top brass has any idea of the price.
Never rely on guidance to indicate anything about pricing for a product in a company of this size. You can do whatever you want accounting wise to move the numbers.
yea just based on things we know based on their earnings and forecasts, them upping production of the PS5 to 10 million. I'm sorry, but if that price is real Jim is delusional lol. I doubt it though.
Isnt BoM usually without taxes? I mean if Sony sells it for 500 in stores you have to subtract taxes and retail cuts.
iirc the article also mentioned Sony having trouble with memory prices and I figure the whole Covid situation doesnt make construction/ shipping any cheaper.
iirc the article also mentioned Sony having trouble with memory prices and I figure the whole Covid situation doesnt make construction/ shipping any cheaper.
Anything above $500 would be a huge fuck-up from Sony and just like the PS3 would cause them to lose 10s of millions of sales, which in turn would hurt PS+ subs, 1st party software sales and overall software sales. Would be a gigantic fuck-up from Sony.
Ya, even announcing megaton 3rd-party exclusives won't help sell 10m~ consoles when priced north of $500.
Unless Sony legit managed to snag GTA 6 as a timed exclusive, lol
Would make sense and Capcom would be more "in the know" than most people here, but I don't think anything specific is locked down
That would have to be announced before the console launch. "Hey, it costs a lot but it will be only place that will be able to play GTA 6"
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